Jordon
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glpg80":1786t1uk said:
Exact same circuitry as the 5150 and 5150 II, if I remember correctly.
BTW, I've gotten some amazing tones out of a JCM900 Dual Reverb with a good mix of tubes in it.
Exact same circuitry as the 5150 and 5150 II, if I remember correctly.
BTW, I've gotten some amazing tones out of a JCM900 Dual Reverb with a good mix of tubes in it.
boof
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Marshall Law":28ngvew8 said:
+1 on that. but ill guess you are talking about the solid state stuff? studio pro 20 bandidt and the like. althoguh they did make the peavey roadmaster that sounded good if you put some sort of tube screamer in front of it.
for me it would be a marshall jcm800 I had long ago around 86 Just couldn't get into it and was off marshall ever since till I started to hear some of the modded ones
glpg80
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Jordon":3fk8i9ax said:
the component quality is not the same - much higher tolerences around 20% to save cost, so construction is not the same. models are now made in china versus made in USA when they first started - and the prices have still gone up.
circuitry has nothing to do with it. china and cost does.
MississippiMetal
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My 6505+ was made in Meridian in 2005, and its components are all quality as far as I can see. IC Capacitors for days. My only gripe is that some of the resistors were slightly less spec'd than I'd like, and that was solved by getting replacements that metered out closer to spec and swapping them out. That, combined with some JJ tubes and a bias mod and this thing ROARS! 
Subclavian
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stratotone":3ae6q3hj said:
exactly...plus that old overused "tone is in the fingers part"
my stories...I saw the Marty Friedman lesson he gave in Tulsa a few years ago in which he was plugged into a blue voodoo and sounded amazing. I played the same exact amp the next day at the store that put on the clinic and it sounded like shit...with his settings. Go figure.
maybe I just sound like shit?
That being said I do agree...the Krank Krankenstein is worthless but the blue voodoo is by and far the worst amp i've ever plugged into. horrible
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RJF
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Well, after reading through all of this, we can pretty much decipher that....
it's pretty unanimous that the JCM900 is a pile of crap....
And it's pretty safe to say the Powerball is the most debated head. With owning a Powerball myself, I can see both sides where it can be seen as a jem or pile.
I about crapped myself when someone thought their VH4 was junk....
it's pretty unanimous that the JCM900 is a pile of crap....
And it's pretty safe to say the Powerball is the most debated head. With owning a Powerball myself, I can see both sides where it can be seen as a jem or pile.
I about crapped myself when someone thought their VH4 was junk....
JTyson
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+1, I kept a fire extinguisher in the back of my rackJuggernaut":32ttt4l9 said:
I HATED my JCM 900 until Todd Langner got his hands on it, it absolutely killed afterward. I still have it 20 years later 
Its still my go-to heavy rhythm head
MississippiMetal
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IMO, anyone who thinks the VH4 is crap doesn't have any business having access to that much cash to buy anything. 
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bunghole
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anyone who buys a 4000 dollar amp has a problem.
mentoneman
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SQUAREHEAD":2v5niucj said:bsp01":2v5niucj said:
Yamaha T100 - Had "ALL" the mods done by Bill Sundt at Soldano - the preamp mod - the choke mod - the FX loop mod... STILL SOUNDED NOTHING LIKE AN SLO100 !!!
Sold it and lost my shirt!!
Tremendous letdown!!
"POS" amp...
Keith
thats the first one i think of. stiff as a british undertaker.
mesa SOB....perfect name
rivera knucklehead...i had such high expectations and it ended up sounding like taking a bite out of a tinfoil cracker
i never laughed out loud at a power chord before
glassjaw7
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It's not a problem if they have the means to do it and the amp has the sound they want.bunghole":1tat97ok said:
That's like saying anyone who buys a car over $30G is stupid. Well, if they want a Lambo and they can afford it, more power to them!In regards to the VH4:
VH4 ch 3 is one of those tones to die for IMO. I played one through a Bogner OS212 in Nov of 08 and I still can't get the sound out of my head. It just felt so responsive and perfect to me. To each their own though.
Death by Uberschall
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MississippiMetal
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bunghole":1gn6rugp said:
What kind of problem might that be?
lolzgreg
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raginkjinn":1qfdaowo said:
+21
lolzgreg
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glpg80":1uljawax said:
These have the EXACT SAME CIRCUIT as their counterparts. The only difference is tubes.
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bunghole
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a lot of people don't have the money
if they do, great
if they don't and wanna spend it, great
just offering an opinion
if i were rich i'd buy a costly amp - i doubt i'd actually pay 4 grand
if they do, great
if they don't and wanna spend it, great
just offering an opinion
if i were rich i'd buy a costly amp - i doubt i'd actually pay 4 grand
MARK1970
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Peavey any one from the 80s
Marshall Jcm900
Lee Jackson Rack Preamp don't know the model ,but it blew ass chunk
Marshall Jcm900
Lee Jackson Rack Preamp don't know the model ,but it blew ass chunk
stratotone
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Subclavian":3pyi7kl8 said:
Heh, I was at that Friedman clinic. Were you at the instore appearance he had at GuitarXpress?
stratotone
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mentoneman":275i86r5 said:
So Pat, do you spend much time writing this stuff or does it just come naturally? It's comedy gold I tell ya!
glpg80
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lolzgreg":1kgq0i32 said:
im not talking about the schematic.
im not talking about the model difference, or the fact it was lawsuit with eddie van halen as to why the the 6505 resembles the start dates of both peavey in 1965 and the year the name date for the model started in march of 2005.
i explained further on ONCE before why i said what i said.
hartly's wife died. he said fuck the company, and got out of it. it wasnt for him anymore, and he hasnt been the same since that happened. the newer amplifiers have different distributors, and areas where boards are being made now.
quality is shit. components are shit - 20% off their noninal values in some cases, and the build quality suffers.
the quality control is nowhere NEAR what it used to be.
the history of components used inside the amplifiers and the power transformers in regards to their years has not been the same, and they change them at will - and always have done so. thats why they keep sounding worse, and some years they sounded better than others.
so no - the amplifiers made now, are NOT the same as their earlier counterparts or mid models. the tolerence levels of the components are not the same, quality control is way down, and some components of the boards are not from the same companies - some overseas. as the price of the amplifiers have gone up, yet quality has done the opposite.
its cheaper for them to have an in house tech and make money off of that then spend the cost up front.
if they were always exact, then all models would sound the same. because the schematics have not changed. schematics mean nothing when a 1.8K resistor is closer to 2.2k because of tolerances. raise that to the 360 degree because thats about how many components make up a 5150 amplifier. then throw in the fact of tubes, and you get an even higher number of amplifiers that sound different, worse, or the same as older models. but they didnt stop at the component level, the transformers have gone through 3-4 different revisions since july of 1992 when the amplifier was released after van halen's tour over that summer.