What is up with this? Jose Mods!!!

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sah5150":2ptt4gvz said:
My thoughts on this:

1.) Builders/modders are free to charge whatever they want for their amps/mods and the market can decide if they want to pay for them.
2.) There is nothing really new under the sun in amp design IMO, much of the info is out there (I've shared my journey) and if you want to do it yourself, I think that is great.
3.) I don't like people bagging on other amp builder's, unless they are calling out shoddy business practices that led to delays or loss that they have PERSONAL experience with. I think that is valid because it helps others not get screwed.
4.) BillyBlades is just a guy who got info from others online and messed with some amps and wants to start a business. He's using the drama around Mark Cameron as a way to get some publicity for whatever he is doing. Now he is talking about an amp he is going to bring to market called the "SwitchBlade". When he finds out what it REALLY takes to design and bring an amp to market, and how much it costs to do it right, repeatably and profitably, we'll see how far that goes and how much he wants for one.
5.) Everybody gets stuff from everybody in this business. For this guy to cry about how everyone is ripping off poor (and dead, btw!) Jose Arredondo and then basically saying, I'm gonna start a for profit business based on the work of the guys he is accusing of ripping off Jose is about as stupid as it gets. If he was really so altruistic about people getting ripped off, etc. he'd just post the semi-accurate schematics he's compiled and let everyone have at it.
6.) The Aldrich Mod is Cameron's, nothing to do with Jose.
7.) If you want the Cameron sound, you can buy it from Brad and as far as I can tell, not get ripped off now. If you don't like the price, that is too bad, but the truth is, a small manufacturer does not have the economies of scale that the big guys do. Everything costs a guy like Brad (or me) more because there are limited runs, not hundreds of amps. You pay that price to get the tone, or you don't. All the math wizards coming up with the profit per amp and thinking that Brad is running away with these huge profits right now has no idea what he is talking about. If you don't want to pay the price that allows Brad to run a small business, buy something from the big guys who make 'em outside the country with cheap labor and parts. Or, if you think you can get the tone from a JVM or a straight Marshall with a boost, go buy that. Your other option is to learn about amps and figure out how to mod them yourself, but the constant crying about "it's a metro kit with 20 bucks worth of parts changes for $3K" is tiring. If that is what you think, go do it yourself...

Steve


perfectly stated Steve :thumbsup:
 
sah5150":2qao8jga said:
My thoughts on this:

1.) Builders/modders are free to charge whatever they want for their amps/mods and the market can decide if they want to pay for them.
2.) There is nothing really new under the sun in amp design IMO, much of the info is out there (I've shared my journey) and if you want to do it yourself, I think that is great.
3.) I don't like people bagging on other amp builder's, unless they are calling out shoddy business practices that led to delays or loss that they have PERSONAL experience with. I think that is valid because it helps others not get screwed.
4.) BillyBlades is just a guy who got info from others online and messed with some amps and wants to start a business. He's using the drama around Mark Cameron as a way to get some publicity for whatever he is doing. Now he is talking about an amp he is going to bring to market called the "SwitchBlade". When he finds out what it REALLY takes to design and bring an amp to market, and how much it costs to do it right, repeatably and profitably, we'll see how far that goes and how much he wants for one.
5.) Everybody gets stuff from everybody in this business. For this guy to cry about how everyone is ripping off poor (and dead, btw!) Jose Arredondo and then basically saying, I'm gonna start a for profit business based on the work of the guys he is accusing of ripping off Jose is about as stupid as it gets. If he was really so altruistic about people getting ripped off, etc. he'd just post the semi-accurate schematics he's compiled and let everyone have at it.
6.) The Aldrich Mod is Cameron's, nothing to do with Jose.
7.) If you want the Cameron sound, you can buy it from Brad and as far as I can tell, not get ripped off now. If you don't like the price, that is too bad, but the truth is, a small manufacturer does not have the economies of scale that the big guys do. Everything costs a guy like Brad (or me) more because there are limited runs, not hundreds of amps. You pay that price to get the tone, or you don't. All the math wizards coming up with the profit per amp and thinking that Brad is running away with these huge profits right now has no idea what he is talking about. If you don't want to pay the price that allows Brad to run a small business, buy something from the big guys who make 'em outside the country with cheap labor and parts. Or, if you think you can get the tone from a JVM or a straight Marshall with a boost, go buy that. Your other option is to learn about amps and figure out how to mod them yourself, but the constant crying about "it's a metro kit with 20 bucks worth of parts changes for $3K" is tiring. If that is what you think, go do it yourself...

Steve

:salute: :clap: :2thumbsup: :cheers: :rock:

There are a couple of areas that I've taken issue with:

1. I feel for all of those who were taken of advantage of, by unscrupulous business practices. Billyblades seemed to choose to make the distinction that it isn't Mark Cameron the individual who "owes" him and who he should be going after-- to be made whole, (assuming that his story is true, it may indeed NOT be-- we don't really know) Rather is focused on Cameron Amplification, "owing him", while it's clear they/Brad doesn't owe him anything.

I just don't think Brad/Cameron Amplification "owes" him. I think Mark Cameron does, assuming his story is true. I think him lashing out against Brad and his company, Cameron Amplification, is misdirected frustration, on his part.

2. His total lack of tact and poor form, while making "unsubstantiated claims" about his services etc... all the while, attacking good standing business people. It's just not justifiable, imo.
 
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.
 
The ebay thing? Looks like someone better read up on BUsiness 101. Using cameron by name...........roook. eveyone knows you have to spell it different or use a rhyme... Uses the cameron name below but not above. he says very well known builder. hes all over the place. I see psych issues here.
 
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.

that's exactly what I have been saying! bzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzbz
 
Nigel Tufnel":2d89f27b said:
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.
Mark stole from Jose.

Steve
 
sah5150":1hnxi5kr said:
Nigel Tufnel":1hnxi5kr said:
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.
Mark stole from Jose.

Steve
Nick stole from Mark ;)
 
sah5150":2tryaxo3 said:
Bob Savage":2tryaxo3 said:
Peter stole from Paul.
Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.

Steve

:D Pickled peppers carrots and bananas. Mmmmm

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Nigel Tufnel":3l62n69l said:
sah5150":3l62n69l said:
Nigel Tufnel":3l62n69l said:
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.
Mark stole from Jose.

Steve
Nick stole from Mark ;)


which Nick ?
 
dawnofdreamx97":2oq6nw5j said:
Nigel Tufnel":2oq6nw5j said:
sah5150":2oq6nw5j said:
Nigel Tufnel":2oq6nw5j said:
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.
Mark stole from Jose.

Steve
Nick stole from Mark ;)


which Nick ?

Pretty sure he meant Nik....also pretty sure it's a joke :D
 
He got everything from SloClone; I watched it all happen. As soon as he decided to go into business, he removed all the schematics he'd posted up. It's pathetic. It's more pathetic that ANYONE should support him or give him money.
 
jcj":kowtgwwd said:
dawnofdreamx97":kowtgwwd said:
Nigel Tufnel":kowtgwwd said:
sah5150":kowtgwwd said:
Nigel Tufnel":kowtgwwd said:
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.
Mark stole from Jose.

Steve
Nick stole from Mark ;)


which Nick ?

Pretty sure he meant Nik....also pretty sure it's a joke :D
Oh... this is no joke, my friend!

Steve
 
sah5150":3u3st503 said:
jcj":3u3st503 said:
dawnofdreamx97":3u3st503 said:
Nigel Tufnel":3u3st503 said:
sah5150":3u3st503 said:
Nigel Tufnel":3u3st503 said:
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.
Mark stole from Jose.

Steve
Nick stole from Mark ;)


which Nick ?

Pretty sure he meant Nik....also pretty sure it's a joke :D
Oh... this is no joke, my friend!

Steve

I apologize unreservedly
 
jcj":3mi2i8x2 said:
sah5150":3mi2i8x2 said:
jcj":3mi2i8x2 said:
dawnofdreamx97":3mi2i8x2 said:
Nigel Tufnel":3mi2i8x2 said:
sah5150":3mi2i8x2 said:
Nigel Tufnel":3mi2i8x2 said:
Dude's a total jackass.....His amp sounds like a beehive in a fucking wind tunnel. He might wanna learn how to actually dial one in before he slams everyone he learned/stole from.
Mark stole from Jose.

Steve
Nick stole from Mark ;)


which Nick ?

Pretty sure he meant Nik....also pretty sure it's a joke :D
Oh... this is no joke, my friend!

Steve

I apologize unreservedly
Accepted. As you clearly understand, the intenetz is serious bidnezz!

Steve
 
Found on the SloClone forum....

 

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