What's your go to Mics and Placement?

[Simon Dorn]

Usually all on the cone up against the edge of the dust cap. It all depends on what you’re recording. I mostly plat A440 rock with Marshall tones that are fairly cutting so on the dust cap is overkill on the top end. Also depends on the speaker you’re using. A G12H30 Anniversary is very bright and a Creamback 75 is also fairly bright. I would probably go even a little more away from the dust cap on those or at least angle the 57 a little. But I don’t use those typically for a Marshall and stick with a GB or my F70.

Thanks for the Info. I agree
Ever tried the e906 for that kind of stuff, or maybe even the Shure SM7B?

 

[Simon Dorn]

In case you missed it, the pics above shows off the clever AxeMount SM21...

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We didn't concentrate on that one bit.

 

[Rackman]

I didn't like any of these sounds...

Yeah there was a lot of bad sounds in that video. I do not think it is likely to get good results without optimizing the mic position. Just putting it on the dust cap is rarely going to be ideal.

I would also advise against making too much use of angling. It might occasionally give good results, but the frequency response becomes increasingly odd as you go off-axis. It's not just a tool to compensate for excessive hype.

It's worth mentioning the SM75 is not one mic. A USA Unidyne III, a Mexican SM57, and a Chinese SM57 are pretty radically different as they implemented intentional cost cutting steps and did re-tuning to increase hype with each production transition. I realize lots of people use them, but I do not consider the Mexican or Chinese SM57 to be a professional mic. I feel the same way about the MD-421-II.

Blending mics can in theory be useful, but often times it's really just an admission that there's something wrong with both mics. Given the availability of numerous mics that reproduce a wide frequency range well, I question the value of piecing a solution together from multiple parts. I think it's no coincidence that the over-hyped modern SM57 is so commonly blended.

 

[Simon Dorn]

My favorite for years (cabinet) has been SM57 & R-121 Mic placement standard 57 edge, 121 center then by ear. I do get great results, takes practice.
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Very nice. And expansive. Probably worth it.

 

[Simon Dorn]

Yeah there was a lot of bad sounds in that video. I do not think it is likely to get good results without optimizing the mic position. Just putting it on the dust cap is rarely going to be ideal.

I would also advise against making too much use of angling. It might occasionally give good results, but the frequency response becomes increasingly odd as you go off-axis. It's not just a tool to compensate for excessive hype.

It's worth mentioning the SM75 is not one mic. A USA Unidyne III, a Mexican SM57, and a Chinese SM57 are pretty radically different as they implemented intentional cost cutting steps and did re-tuning to increase hype with each production transition. I realize lots of people use them, but I do not consider the Mexican or Chinese SM57 to be a professional mic. I feel the same way about the MD-421-II.

Blending mics can in theory be useful, but often times it's really just an admission that there's something wrong with both mics. Given the availability of numerous mics that reproduce a wide frequency range well, I question the value of piecing a solution together from multiple parts. I think it's no coincidence that the over-hyped modern SM57 is so commonly blended.

Interesting thoughts. Thanks. I kinda tend towards the Dead Center Position at the Moment. It captures the whole speaker. And the K100s are not too bright.

 

[311boogieman]

My favorite mic placement is my cell phone on my desk at a 45 degree angle.

Simon, can you edit your OP to 'Dust cap'? I kept trying to picture a Dustcab and thought I was missing something

But back when cell phone mics sounded like crap, which wasn't that long ago, I'd use my SM57 straight on about an inch off dustcap and fairly close to the grill. Obviously not the expert in the room.

 

[Floyd Eye]

For live sound my go to was an i5 on the best sounding speaker about an inch from the dust cap, off axis. Tops were Yamaha DSRs. Always sounds fantastic.

 

[Simon Dorn]

My favorite mic placement is my cell phone on my desk at a 45 degree angle.

Simon, can you edit your OP to 'Dust cap'? I kept trying to picture a Dustcab and thought I was missing something

But back when cell phone mics sounded like crap, which wasn't that long ago, I'd use my SM57 straight on about an inch off dustcap and fairly close to the grill. Obviously not the expert in the room.

Ok. A Dustcab is obviously something totally different. Put the damn mic in the dustcab.

 

[JLR]

SM57 straight into my asshole.

So this is how you get the brown sound.

 

[Rackman]

So this is how you get the brown sound.

I knew there was something an sm57 was good for

 

[Simon Dorn]

So this is how you get the brown sound.

I knew there was something an sm57 was good for

He should try the Fredman Technique.