10" Speaker Recommendation

[Rottweiler]

Did you ever try a 10" gold? They do high gain and cleans pretty fucking well, imo

OP just an initial thought here on the 10" gold. Due to the magnet size on the 10 gold, it looks like the speaker is longer from mountung ring to back of magnet. I would double check the speaker dimensions against the inside of the cab.

 

[DanTravis62]

I've got a Super Reverb that gets some amazing sounds. Same thing with my Bassman. But for anything remotely resembling metal, um, no. I've heard crap 12" speakers, too, but even average ones do gain better than the best 10", IMO.

For a low-level practice amp, those mini-Marshall stacks aren't terrible, but they don't really do high gain well, either. I use mine for a bench amp and I could definitely see using it as a late-night alternative to a 4x12. Marshall really should have gone with a better stock speaker.

My low volume setup is a kemper rack into a cheap as hell rocktron velocity 2x50 stereo power amp into an EV12L

if I need to use a bench amp for testing, I use one of those joyo bantamp minis (the AC30 one) into the same 12L 1x12

I can't do it man, I can't stand the sound of 8 or 10 inch speakers for anything high gain - and if i'm playing at really low volumes, I really need the gain, because most of what I'm doing is woodshedding lead stuff and scales if i'm practicing quietly

I've discovered that almost all of the "terrible" practice amps I remember from my childhood (peavey bandit transtubes, etc - cheap SS practice amp stuff) were nearly all suffering from the inevitably terrible 8 or 10 inch speaker. The amps themselves can sound excellent. Particularly the transtube stuff.

It's almost always the speaker that is the weak link on those types of amps. Another great example are the cheap randall solid state combos.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

The maz is an excellent amp that sounds great for just about everything, but high gain is pushing it even for that amp

I got mine to sound pretty rad with a boost and the LPD 68 double boosting, but it took a lot of finagling and fucking around to get it sounding right

I agree mostly. It really is pushing it to do metal. I double boosted it also, but I had it with a super mid spike boost first and a very transparent boost second. It worked out to where I literally didnt move a knob on the Maz. Honestly, I haven't touched the Eq since I set it the first day.

If I am playing something and it sounds too bright, i slightly adjust with the tone knob and the gain i dial back with the volume knob (this is all on the LP).

I was lucky and when I plugged in the jackson and double boosted, the EQ just worked.

The only thing i adjust on the maz is my master depending on how loud I want to play. Amp really blows my mind

 

[DanTravis62]

I agree mostly. It really is pushing it to do metal. I double boosted it also, but I had it with a super mid spike boost first and a very transparent boost second. It worked out to where I literally didnt move a knob on the Maz. Honestly, I haven't touched the Eq since I set it the first day.

If I am playing something and it sounds too bright, i slightly adjust with the tone knob and the gain i dial back with the volume knob (this is all on the LP).

I was lucky and when I plugged in the jackson and double boosted, the EQ just worked.

The only thing i adjust on the maz is my master depending on how loud I want to play. Amp really blows my mind

The Maz is a really, really underrated amp

The first one I ever played was at Emerald City in Seattle, which if any other RTers know, is one of the best guitar stores in the US. They have insane vintage bursts and strats, vintage AC30s, plexis, dumbles, all sorts of crazy shit

I was balls deep in my "I have to find the right lower gain amp" phase and I played a maz 38 right next to a two rock, a fuchs ods, and a couple others and it just was by far a better sounding amp. I eventually shot it out with a sampson era matchless chief, and yes while it couldn't compare to that amp, the crazy part was how amazing it was and how well it hung with it - for almost 1/5th of the price

It's unbelievable how many dudes spend ungodly amounts of money on low-mid gain tones, and it's like bro just get a Maz and spend the rest of the money on hookers and blow or something

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

The Maz is a really, really underrated amp

The first one I ever played was at Emerald City in Seattle, which if any other RTers know, is one of the best guitar stores in the US. They have insane vintage bursts and strats, vintage AC30s, plexis, dumbles, all sorts of crazy shit

I was balls deep in my "I have to find the right lower gain amp" phase and I played a maz 38 right next to a two rock, a fuchs ods, and a couple others and it just was by far a better sounding amp. I eventually shot it out with a sampson era matchless chief, and yes while it couldn't compare to that amp, the crazy part was how amazing it was and how well it hung with it - for almost 1/5th of the price

It's unbelievable how many dudes spend ungodly amounts of money on low-mid gain tones, and it's like bro just get a Maz and spend the rest of the money on hookers and blow or something

Yeah, man. I literally could only have that amp and get away with 95% of what I want to play. You told me how great they are, but I was really fucking suprised when I.plugged into it

 

[ChurchHill]

I've discovered that almost all of the "terrible" practice amps I remember from my childhood (peavey bandit transtubes, etc - cheap SS practice amp stuff) were nearly all suffering from the inevitably terrible 8 or 10 inch speaker. The amps themselves can sound excellent. Particularly the transtube stuff.

LOL! This thread has me thinking about all the really awful amps I had when I was first starting out. In retrospect, I think it was almost always the speakers. I had a couple of old Peaveys that were better than I thought at the time, Bandit, Renown, especially a Deuce. I still like 2x12s but wasn't really happy until I got a 4x12.

TBH, I still haven't found an 8" that I like for anything. Champs are great, but sound SO much better through a 12". My first amp was a Memphis something that had maybe a 6". That was just awful, but it got me started.

 

[DanTravis62]

LOL! This thread has me thinking about all the really awful amps I had when I was first starting out. In retrospect, I think it was almost always the speakers. I had a couple of old Peaveys that were better than I thought at the time, Bandit, Renown, especially a Deuce. I still like 2x12s but wasn't really happy until I got a 4x12.

TBH, I still haven't found an 8" that I like for anything. Champs are great, but sound SO much better through a 12". My first amp was a Memphis something that had maybe a 6". That was just awful, but it got me started.

dude, the first time I ever plugged a champ into a 4x12 I had my mind blown

It was like instant early Jimmy Page type classic rock tones

 

[ChurchHill]

dude, the first time I ever plugged a champ into a 4x12 I had my mind blown

It was like instant early Jimmy Page type classic rock tones

Oh, yeah! That's something everyone should try at least once.

 

[Rottweiler]

dude, the first time I ever plugged a champ into a 4x12 I had my mind blown

It was like instant early Jimmy Page type classic rock tones

OK, I have a confession to make. One of my favorite rigs here is a Marshall class 5 into a 1960B with G12Cs. You should hear that thing at 100 watts through my powerstation ha!

 

[Rottweiler]

Yeah, man. I literally could only have that amp and get away with 95% of what I want to play. You told me how great they are, but I was really fucking suprised when I.plugged into it

I remeber looking a Maz 2x10 at GC right about the time you bought one. It was marked as a 2x12 online and when I got to the store it was a 2x10. That would be something if it is the one you bought.

 

[DanTravis62]

OK, I have a confession to make. One of my favorite rigs here is a Marshall class 5 into a 1960B with G12Cs. You should hear that thing at 100 watts through my powerstation ha!

Now that's a rig! Dude the powerstation is such a great piece of gear. Someday, I need another one

The class 5 is super underrated, and they used to be really cheap - the word got out though, and prices went up

 

[Rottweiler]

Now that's a rig! Dude the powerstation is such a great piece of gear. Someday, I need another one

The class 5 is super underrated, and they used to be really cheap - the word got out though, and prices went up

I got a combo on the cheap and liked it so much, I hunted down a head.

I was interested in this thread because I thought of upgrading the 10" in the combo.

 

[Scumback Speakers]

I use these in my 10" combo.

https://wgsusa.com/collections/brit...0-green-beret-25-watts?variant=43724735217872

 

[cardinal]

Marshall use to make 4x10 cabs with Celestion G10L-35 speakers that sound really good with gain. Sort of remind me of the G12-65s.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

You can if you want to, but you aren't going to change my mind

They are great speakers for a lot of tones but I don't think any 10 inch speakers sound good for high gain

I don't know that I change your mind or anything. And I agree that 12" are way better for metal.

But this is straight fucking in to the amp with not even a gate (you will be able to tell because I don't roll volume in between playing) and it is pretty fucking metal.



looks like it was between 110 and 115 dbs

 

[DanTravis62]

I don't know that I change your mind or anything. And I agree that 12" are way better for metal.

But this is straight fucking in to the amp with not even a gate (you will be able to tell because I don't roll volume in between playing) and it is pretty fucking metal.



looks like it was between 110 and 115 dbs

Yeah, the low end doesn't sound right to me man

It's got plenty of gain, and plenty of aggression, but the low end sounds like a 10" speaker - it sounds like the primary frequency on the palm mutes is somehow "higher" than the fundamental freq on a 12"

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Yeah, the low end doesn't sound right to me man

It's got plenty of gain, and plenty of aggression, but the low end sounds like a 10" speaker - it sounds like the primary frequency on the palm mutes is somehow "higher" than the fundamental freq on a 12"

Really good ear, bud. I thought the exact same thing. That leads me to want to try the same thing putting it into the redback cab

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Also kind of makes me wonder if I did boost with the chiron and dropped the high end if it might kind of fill out the frequency

 

[DanTravis62]

Also kind of makes me wonder if I did boost with the chiron and dropped the high end if it might kind of fill out the frequency

I doubt it but its worth a try

You have now encountered why I cannot make 10" speakers work for me at least

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

I doubt it but its worth a try

You have now encountered why I cannot make 10" speakers work for me at least

Thing is, I didn't notice it before when I double boosted it. But today, I was really searching for that low end punch. It may be that i just got through playing through the mgl with redbacks though..