a metal amp that isn't flat?

[stephen sawall]

If you like the Fryette sound look at the other options. Nothing else really sounds like them.

 

[HerbieBoogie]

Diezel Herbert when you have money.

 

[BAALINCINERATOR]

Fryette pittbull ultralead OR clx all the way

WITH EQ

OF COURSE!

or you could...

send your MESA to VOODOO... wuala.
but you have to wait until your about to shit in your pants and piss everywhere
before it comes back

or you could keep your 5150

or your stock mesa

or your VHT

and try various boost pedals ALA MAXONOD808 etc....

nothing wrong with a little boost... everybody boosts. even if your amp is AWESOME on its own its just part of playing metal if you play metal your going to like it better with a boost perioid but maybe not amps do just sound good on their own but if you dont like your amp enough even tho you like it you can have it modded or you can boost it or you can do both or you can get a new amp

you dont always have to sell your amp and get a whole nother new amp just to tweak something about it
all the amps you said.... are good amps
try a pedal
or mod it

you cant go wrong with a fryette pittbull tho

me personally for metal i might like alot of different tones dpending on what exactly i feel like doing with it at the time or what im jamming on or whatever... I like my amp to have that real show glow to it tho if you know what i mean. But i like alot of sounds... i actually dont mind an amp to have some fizz to it. but i might not want that all the time. sometimes i like a real smooth kind of sound for different stuff. it just depends on what i feel like.

i got a fryette pittbull 100 CLX
voodoo modded
for that extra push i got a maxon OD808
but then i thought.. what if i want it more gritty and extreme sometimes
or just nastier
so i got a keeley modded Boss MT2
and then i was like well what about that swedish chainsaw sound
so i got a modded HM2 clone

so with all this and a fryette pittbull with an EQ its kinda like
the possibility is endless you know what i mean
theres no like oh i dont like the amp cuz this and im gonna try this amp instead or whatever its just like
hey im gona try this pedal today and this EQ and roll off the amp gain a little bit
and the next day i could be like
hey im gona try this pedal instead with a little more amp gain and this EQ

but if your looking for something cheap

i would say to you

get a mesa triple rectifier on ebay for 1000 dollars
and get a maxon overdrive

and if thats too fizzy

send it to voodoo

or just quit playing guitar

 

[BAALINCINERATOR]

keep your 5150 man.... put new tubes in it... try some better pickups... if you have duncan invaders... that would be part of your problem. keep your 5150 get new tubes in it re cap it try different boost pedals like maxons and stuff get a cab with good speakers for high gain low tuning or change your 2x12 speakers out with something else your speakers could just be old as crap if your amps old as crap renewing some old stuff on it will unfuck it. send it to trace davis. do that. do all of those things. get a fortin natas. get a deizel VH4 and a dinglehopper pedal and stick your finger in its asshole

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Diezel if fizz bothers you. Or a parametric eq pedal in the loop,

 

[FourT6and2]

Everyone is just going to suggest the amp they own lol.

That said, VHT/Fryette or Peters (ha!) if you don't want no fizz and no compression. They are both very clear and raw and tight and have character all their own.

 

[colimofsmoke]

keep your 5150 man.... put new tubes in it... try some better pickups... if you have duncan invaders... that would be part of your problem. keep your 5150 get new tubes in it re cap it try different boost pedals like maxons and stuff get a cab with good speakers for high gain low tuning or change your 2x12 speakers out with something else your speakers could just be old as crap if your amps old as crap renewing some old stuff on it will unfuck it. send it to trace davis. do that. do all of those things. get a fortin natas. get a deizel VH4 and a dinglehopper pedal and stick your finger in its asshole

hahahaha. Love your posts, man. cracked me up. but you're right. I should def try some smaller tweaks rather than getting rid of the whole kit and caboodle. I learned that with motorcycles. One particular bike, I hated with a passion until I put the right tires on it. turned it into my favorite bike.

 

[CaseyCor]

Get another Deliverance and a Fryette Power Station. Then you'll have a D60 with a loop and an attenuator. Or send the D60 to Fryette for the loop mod, but that doesn't help with the volume issue. The Power Station would solve all of your problems, it seems.

 

[jd267]

Get a Kemper and be done with buying amps ! If you can't afford that ,

5150
Dual rec

All fat sounding boosted with screamer

 

[jd267]

5150 (head) loves Ruby 6l6gc they also respond super well to preamp tubes . If your lucky you will have the stock pre amp tubes that say 12ax7 on them made in China and have a square getter inside the tube . May also say super 7 . They rule

 

[Death by Uberschall]

Bogner Uberschall Rev2 or Twin Jet is what you're looking for. Rev2 being my first choice.

 

[CP5150]

5150 combo is closer to the 5150 II/6505+ 60 watts not 120 like the heads. No offense, but I think your making two mistakes. You say your using only one guitar. I've played Chili Peppers songs with a homemade Strat and my old 5150 head. The cleans were passable. Not great. But in a club it sounded ok. Had to turn the guitars volume down. The Peaveys were not designed to have a clean channel. It's as labeled. Rhythym and lead. In fact my drummer, a music store salesman wanted me to play a dual recto. Stating I would never get any cleans from a 5150. He shut up after the first gig. So try other guitars. And don't turn the lead channel gain too high. 5.5 is about right. Rhythym keep the crunch and bright switches in, turn the post all the way up and the pre all the way down. Then slowly bring up the pre up to a decent volume. Which brings me to what I assume is mistake number two. These amps were designed to be played loud. I mean loud! Some of the fizz goes away at loud stage volumes. They sound best when played louder than you think you should be. Ed plays his super loud. Like I'm afraid to try to be that loud. Balance era his post gains were at 6! 4.5 is usually good for me. So playing at home probably would make most people hate a 5150. They need to be cranked.

The post gain rhythym channel settings I suggested. I got that from a guy who used to play a 5150 II. Said it was his secret weapon for getting a great rock tone. He's got a signature amp and is on a huge tour right now. So he might know a bit about tone. I recently started using Ed's setting for the rhythm channel. It's not bad.

50 watt 5150 III is way better than its predecessors. And it has a real clean channel. Used they can be had for close to what a PV 5150 head goes for these days. Love my 5150 III 2x12 combo! But I would have been perfectly happy playing my old Peavey 5150 forever.

I will be buying the el34 5150 Ed is making. I'd like a Marshall chunky percussive amp and hope this is it.

 

[colimofsmoke]

5150 combo is closer to the 5150 II/6505+ 60 watts not 120 like the heads. No offense, but I think your making two mistakes. You say your using only one guitar. I've played Chili Peppers songs with a homemade Strat and my old 5150 head. The cleans were passable. Not great. But in a club it sounded ok. Had to turn the guitars volume down. The Peaveys were not designed to have a clean channel. It's as labeled. Rhythym and lead. In fact my drummer, a music store salesman wanted me to play a dual recto. Stating I would never get any cleans from a 5150. He shut up after the first gig. So try other guitars. And don't turn the lead channel gain too high. 5.5 is about right. Rhythym keep the crunch and bright switches in, turn the post all the way up and the pre all the way down. Then slowly bring up the pre up to a decent volume. Which brings me to what I assume is mistake number two. These amps were designed to be played loud. I mean loud! Some of the fizz goes away at loud stage volumes. They sound best when played louder than you think you should be. Ed plays his super loud. Like I'm afraid to try to be that loud. Balance era his post gains were at 6! 4.5 is usually good for me. So playing at home probably would make most people hate a 5150. They need to be cranked.

The post gain rhythym channel settings I suggested. I got that from a guy who used to play a 5150 II. Said it was his secret weapon for getting a great rock tone. He's got a signature amp and is on a huge tour right now. So he might know a bit about tone. I recently started using Ed's setting for the rhythm channel. It's not bad.

50 watt 5150 III is way better than its predecessors. And it has a real clean channel. Used they can be had for close to what a PV 5150 head goes for these days. Love my 5150 III 2x12 combo! But I would have been perfectly happy playing my old Peavey 5150 forever.

I will be buying the el34 5150 Ed is making. I'd like a Marshall chunky percussive amp and hope this is it.

I think you're probably right on both counts. I never turn the gain on either channel past 5. I've learned that on most high gain amps, setting the gain to 10 is way too much. I also think part of the prob is my pickups. I let a salesman talk me into the new EMG 57/66 pups, and I think they sound like garbage at pretty much every setting. not sure how a salesman convinced me to get actives, but whatever.

but I played a 5153 again today, and I like it over the 5150 in pretty much every way. but i like the 5150. like I said above, I like all the amps I've had (except the Music Man rd120...yuck), and if I had more money or fewer hobbies, I'd keep them all.

 

[SLOgriff]

Most brutal tonz ever achieved.....thread over! You're welcome!

 

[Jdub]

After owning countless amps... Marshalls, Wizards, Bogners, Soldanos, Komets ,Boogies,Suhrs , Bradshaws, VHT's,Brunos, Engls, Egnaters, Camerons, Friedmans, Mojaves, Engls, /13 etc etc. I have owned over the past 20 years... Seriously, liiterally and truthfully a proper running DSL with a couple good dirt boxes does the trick pretty damn good.


Where is that chaps wearing douchebag from years ago... sgt thump? Thump used to swear by the DSL amp and I scoffed. Now I swear by it and I have owned a half million dollars worth of amps in the meantime... don't get me wrong I still love many of the amps I have or have had, but when push comes to shove the DSL (green then add your own mean) is farking killer!!


Ps no real offense to Sgt Chaps. just kidding..lol and and you were right.)

 

[stephen sawall]

Thump has been playing drums a long time....and not been around here for longer.

 

[Racerxrated]

More evidence that you don't need to spend a ton....don't laugh....played a Crate Stealth with a boost and it sounded brutally good, plenty low end and quiet, with clarity.....I used to find these for 99 bucks and flip them on feebay for 300 or so. Never spent much time with them, although I've always said great bang for the buck at 300. Told a buddy about them a while back and he went and bought one...played his rig and through a V30 cab it smoked. Good clean/reverb/loop, and most shops think they're just another Crate pos solid state amp..no standby switch. But 6V6 are nice sounding in this circuit.

 

[Reflux]

Try a boost and an MXR 10 band yet? Might be a cheaper fix than getting a whole new head...
The older, no longer in production H&K Warp X would probably be along the lines of what you want. Great heads, had two for years back in the day. They pop up used every now and again pretty affordably on ebay and craigslist. Saw a few used in a guitar center over the last few years. Has an awesome bass and mid boost feature on it, as well.

 

[maddnotez]

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So many amps to choose from.

Rev.2 Uberschall

KSR Ares or Artemes

VHT Pitbull or another Deliverance.

Those are my top 3 with previously owning a pitbull and with the right tubes it being unmatched to almost any brutal tone, the Rev. 2 takes the cake and to me is the absolute perfect metal tone but KSR makes some great amps.

There are also many many others as mentioned and I am also liking what I hear from henning

 

[Death by Uberschall]

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Rev.2 Uberschall

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