Airight. This old blues fart wants to start chugging. Problem is.....

[Beyond Black]

Honestly but out of the bunch mentioned can't go wrong with an AmpTweaker for pure chugs *_*

You can’t be trusted after recommending the Rat for chugs.

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

I’m like that with down-tuning a guitar. I like C# standard on recordings but every time I setup a guitar for that it doesn’t satisfy in person. Too soft, not punchy enough. I recently set up a guitar once again and even a bass, because I can’t help myself, thinking, let me record with it and I haven’t touched either since I did

I think the best chug happens in standard and 1/2 step down. IMO

 

[skoora]

I think the best chug happens in standard and 1/2 step down. IMO

Yes. You gain girth tuning down but you lose aggression and dexterity.

 

[Hiwatts-n-Gibsons]

I think the best chug happens in standard and 1/2 step down. IMO

For early Pantera, Metallica, DRI, Testament, etc..., sure. For later Pantera, Sepultura, Entombed, Melvins, Testament, Mastodon, and lots of other more extreme shit hell to the nope.

 

[Hiwatts-n-Gibsons]

Yes. You gain girth tuning down but you lose aggression and dexterity.

With the right guage strings you can get a similar feel to E std at some absurdly low tunings. You best have plenty of travel for those bridge saddles though if you want good intonation.

 

[Speeddemon]

I tried the BE OD and it sounded very flat to me, even with the eq. Lots of gain, and you can tweak the sound, but it just sounded like an SD1 with a few eq knobs. The Keely AT super mod sounded like a hifi pedal compared to the BE OD. I am not an EE so I can't tell you what the difference is, but I'm guessing it is the clipping type.

While I haven't had the regular BE-OD, I bought the Deluxe version (2 channels with more controls) and found it to be the most amp-like hotrodded Marshall amp-in-a-box pedal that runs at 9V.
I still own a H&K Tube factor, (high plate voltage 2 channel low/med gain tube driven), that is awesome, but it lacks the gain and control for 80's higher gain metal stuff.
Black star HT Dual was cool, but cumbersome.
Owned both the Bogner Ecstasy Blue (best low gain 9V amp like) and Red pedals as well, but the BE OD Deluxe to me wins for realism and versatility compared to the Bogner Red; which can get a bit screechy or fizzy if you crank it too much. The BE OD Deluxe takes boost pedals in front of it also quite well.

Now, as far as modern, really chuggy stuff goes, the Ola pedal and the Amptweaker are probably a better choice, but for a 2 channel amp like pedal running into the front of a clean amp with a focus on 80's (and some 90's) hotrodded Marshall tone, those two may be the lesser choice.

 

[mnemonic]

I tried to do the pedal preamp or distortion pedal thing for a while but it will never be as good as a good amp, in my opinion.

That being said there are a few good options. Probably more now as I haven’t been in the loop with preamp/distortion pedals for a couple years. My preference is preamp pedal into power amp, if it’s gotta be pedals. AMT, Amptweaker (though under new ownership and not sure if it’s the same), and KSR preamp pedals are all pretty great.

That being said the BE-OD is a real good distortion pedal. But is only as good as the voicing of the clean channel you put it though. You’ll get totally different results using a clinically clean preamp vs crunchy, bright cap vs no bright cap on gain pot, etc.

Something like the tonex mini pedal might be the best bet, to be honest.

 

[Eazy-ESP]

You didn't master your pentatonic majors. No wonder you are bored with the same old minor stuff. All the blues gold lies inside the mixing of major and minor.

Is there a pedal for that?

 

[griff10672]

I try not to SPAM the hell out of these threads with my offerings .....

and I try not to " shove " my opinions down any throats .... but for an honest opinion on this kind of thing would be :

always try to get your crunch/gain from the amp first .... adding OD's / Boosts for their EQ qualities and slight push in gain or just a little bit of color

I've never met a pedal that can replicate that ..... and I've built a few

now .... if you're doing the " clean platform " ( say a Fender type amp with just pedals ) you can get real close with some of the pedals mentioned

I have no experience at all with the most recent kind of stuff like the Ola pedal etc .. I've seen some vids and heard them .... they sound friggin fantastic

what I do have experience with and have built are the following just to name a few ...

VH4
BE-OD
SLO
Engl Powerball
Kraken
PAL 800
Boogie
Wampler Triple Wreck ( total sleeper pedal )
Amp Tweaker Tight Metal

and more OD's than @VonBonfire can shake a stick at ....

for the most part ... all those circuits are sooooooo close to each other in design that ..... if you knew how close you'd quickly just pick one and be done with it

 

[70 Mach 1]

So far from YT clips im liking the amp tweaker. Looks well made and not a wallet buster.

Plus it don't have 60 knobs and toggles to fuck me up

 

[VonBonfire]

and more OD's than @VonBonfire can shake a mini toggeL at ....

You're speaking my language. Happy 4th Uncle Waynzo and to all.

 

[griff10672]

So far from YT clips im liking the amp tweaker. Looks well made and not a wallet buster.

Plus it don't have 60 knobs and toggles to fuck me up

that will definitely get you there .... the Chugg Norris is a modified Tight Metal

 

[DISTORT6]

AMT preamp pedals cover a lot of ground.

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

Yes. You gain girth tuning down but you lose aggression and dexterity.

Aggression is a quality of expression and dexterity a quality of motor skill movement. Neither are inherent of inanimants like the guitar or amp.

 

[griff10672]

AMT preamp pedals cover a lot of ground.

that sounds really really good !! of course everything he demo's seems to sound amazing .... but still

 

[JackBootedThug]

I only have blues gear.
Not looking to buy a triple rec although I'd love one.

Sooo what pedal choices do i have going through fender type cleaner amps.

I got the heavy strings in drop C.
Got the wrist action and muting tight

Now need the dirt

You want to borrow a pedal let me know.

 

[JackBootedThug]

I actually sent chugg a pedal but he is having some issues I believe. I told him to use it for as long as he wants but if he finishes up with it I can have him send it to you. It’s a ampeg vh140c preamp pedal. It will turn your blues setup black… blacker than midnight on the dark side of the moon during a lunar eclipse…. Yeah

 

[Tone Monster]

Not sure what sound im after because im not familiar with metal or players.

I like the heavier basey tone thats not to buzz sawish. Some of it has to much fuzz

Over the weekend I'll post some vids of stuff i like to try and yall can figure it out from there

When you get serious and buy an amp….VHT D60 or Wizard MTL.

 

[glpg80]

If you want chugs, Abaddon can deliver chugs.

 

[napalmdeath]

Fine choice: - Evh 5150 stomp

Good choice: - Friedman BeOd + Eq or a Ts9
- Soldano stomp

Great choice: Amptweaker Tight metal

BE-OD and 5150 are great choices. The new 5150 red pedal sounds pretty killer.