Am I missing out not owning a straight 4-12??

[Solarflares]

There's a few videos or clips around I remember watching a while back, but don't remember exactly what they are. Foam seems to cut down on some of the lower frequency resonances. It makes the cab sound more clinical and controlled but at the expense of some warmth, if I remember right.

Depending on the guitar tone, less or no foam could help give some extra body to a thinner tone, while more foam could de-mud a slightly more bloated tone.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, again it's been awhile since I've looked into it.

Foam raises the cab’s resonant frequency into unfavourable areas.

 

[Deleted member 101920]

We could all go insane pondering options..lol
A straight 412 is my best bet. I can put my 6 space rack on it and not worry about the whole thing tipping. Plus I can complete the "Stack of Doom" with my other 1960a and the JCM 800 I have..

 

[Solarflares]

. I can put my 6 space rack on it and not worry about the whole thing tipping.

Probably, but do remove the wheels, or you might get a nasty surprise.

 

[Sick Michael]

Way Back . . . . . many many, many moons agao . . . . . In our line of work . . . 1960 B Cabs were a requirement not an option.

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As I started building (smaller ; ) more recording based rigs , I still always found a 1960 B had something I couldn't get anywere else. Where else could you get a stereo dry cab for the center of a W/D/W rig?

PS: I was able to solve the issue with ground contact with milk crates.

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Wow! is that a V-AMP Rack unit? Thats a blast from the past...

 

[Deleted member 101920]

Wow! is that a V-AMP Rack unit? Thats a blast from the past...

They actually sounded damn good too for the price!

 

[Solarflares]

Nice to see someone sensibly putting the hot power amps at the top, where they belong.

 

[Geo]

Not that much difference IMO.

 

[harddriver]

I have two slants and two straights and my preference overall is a straight cabinet. Not that the slants suck the straight cabs are just better to my ears when I'm standing in front of them.

You'll see alot of pro players stacking alot of straight cabinets live.

 

[Solarflares]

Basically, you got yer straights, and you got yer benders.
If you ‘men’ want to go onstage with some transgender faggot lezzer crossdressing pervert 4x12 - then it’s your life.
But don’t come crying to me when gays won’t leave you alone, and your gigs start to look like the dressing-room from Ru Paul’s Drag Race.

My 70’s/80’s rig was 4 straight 4x12’s in two stacks. These were perched on 9” risers.

 

[rsm]

How do you like the Full-Stack soundwise, compared to a Halfstack with a Straight Cab?

Never tried this with a half stack, these are X cabs with 25W greenbacks; and I have the volume loud.

I'm concerned about damaging the speakers using one cab which is rated at 100W; the 1959HW can peak at 150W, maybe more at high volume. I run mine around 8 when using the treble channel alone with a Strat, a little less when I jump the channels and use a Les Paul or PS10

 

[Greazygeo]

No you are not missing anything. Straight cabs are fine if you are on a deep stage or if you have a lot of them. They look cool when they are stacked three high and four plus wide. With an old Marshall stype amp that had little low end to start with, they help alittle. Nowadays amps have alot more low end (not that it is useful).

My favorite 4-12’s are the multi dispersion / v front…a couple side by side are great for gigs. Have not used a 412 at a gig in a couple decades I think.

If you want a straight cab, get one and a slant. See if you like one over the other…

 

[Solarflares]

Never tried this with a half stack, these are X cabs with 25W greenbacks; and I have the volume loud.

I'm concerned about damaging the speakers using one cab which is rated at 100W; the 1959HW can peak at 150W, maybe more at high volume. I run mine around 8 when using the treble channel alone with a Strat, a little less when I jump the channels and use a Les Paul or PS10

I’ve seen 190W from a 1959 when driven into distortion.
Yes, a 1959 is too much for just 4 25W Greenbacks matey.

 

[rsm]

Nice to see someone sensibly putting the hot power amps at the top, where they belong.

true; but depending on the number rack spaces, and if it had wheels, I usually liked my racks to be bottom heavy vs top heavy.

for tube power amps, I'd usually try to leave an empty 1U above...or put it in its own separate rack, the preamp and effects in another rack.

...which I didn't do with my Engl rack which was 4u - 1U for the Furman, 1U for the E530 preamp and 2U for the E850/100 power amp...I never had heat issues, even using it for 3 - 4 hours with a few 15 min breaks along the way. Now with the E530 preamp gone, there's a 1U space above the power amp

 

[rsm]

I’ve seen 190W from a 1959 when driven into distortion.
Yes, a 1959 is too much for just 4 25W Greenbacks matey.

yep. why I always run both cabs with it.

 

[Solarflares]

true; but depending on the number rack spaces, and if it had wheels, I usually liked my racks to be bottom heavy vs top heavy.

for tube power amps, I'd usually try to leave an empty 1U above...or put it in its own separate rack, the preamp and effects in another rack.

...which I didn't do with my Engl rack which was 4u - 1U for the Furman, 1U for the E530 preamp and 2U for the E850/100 power amp...I never had heat issues, even using it for 3 - 4 hours with a few 15 min breaks along the way. Now with the E530 preamp gone, there's a 1U space above the power amp

My rack was a 20U sleeved case and the wheels were mounted on the rear cover. Lol
It weighed 440lbs, and I could just about stand it up on my own.

 

[Simon Dorn]

Never tried this with a half stack, these are X cabs with 25W greenbacks; and I have the volume loud.

I'm concerned about damaging the speakers using one cab which is rated at 100W; the 1959HW can peak at 150W, maybe more at high volume. I run mine around 8 when using the treble channel alone with a Strat, a little less when I jump the channels and use a Les Paul or PS10

AND WHEN YOU DON'T CRANK IT ALL THE WAY UP?

 

[rsm]

AND WHEN YOU DON'T CRANK IT ALL THE WAY UP?

It's a NMV 100W plexi.




I wear earplugs.





I have MV amps I play at reasonable volumes; not the 1959HW tho'

 

[rsm]

My rack was a 20U sleeved case and the wheels were mounted on the rear cover. Lol
It weighed 440lbs, and I could just about stand it up on my own.

Back in the day my biggest rack was probably 8U?

Furman
ADA MP-1 (with a backup)
ADA MQ-1
Alesis Quadraverb
ADA B200S

= 7U in an 8U rack

4 x ADA Vertical 2x12 SplitStacks

I eventually replaced the MP-1 and MQ-1 with a MP-2 (with a backup). Sold most of it in the '00s, still have the MP-2.

Here's the consolidated rack before the final sell off... ADA MIDI controller on top of he rack.

 

[Solarflares]

Back in the day my biggest rack was probably 8U?

Furman
ADA MP-1 (with a backup)
ADA MQ-1
Alesis Quadraverb
ADA B200S

= 7U in an 8U rack

4 x ADA Vertical 2x12 SplitStacks

I eventually replaced the MP-1 and MQ-1 with a MP-2 (with a backup). Sold most of it in the '00s, still have the MP-2.

Here's the consolidated rack before the final sell off... ADA MIDI controller on top of he rack.


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Wish I had a pic for you. But I lost everything in 2015, including my music archives and stuff.
My experience was everyone would disappear when it was time to load the van with my stuff.

 

[rsm]

Wish I had a pic for you. But I lost everything in 2015, including my music archives and stuff.
My experience was everyone would disappear when it was time to load the van with my stuff.

sorry to hear. I don't have many pics either, we didn't always have cameras, many pics weren't good and we didn't know until we developed the film.

I can't imagine taking a 20U rack on wheels up/down some of the stairs I remember, not surprised people got scarce!


I also played bass, and I had a 1x10, 1x18, Cerwin-Vega folded horn cab...it had a built in hand truck. When I had to move it up or down stairs, people would disappear too!

Good times tho'