Anthrax - It's For the Kids

[thegame]

Fuck it, I’m making this a no holds barred cage match now. Testament’s The Legacy may be THE best thrash debut album ever. I’m fucking serious.

 

[DanTravis62]

Whining about Testament’s production prohibiting you from fully enjoying the music and NOT about the sonic abortion that is YOU KNOW WHAT (lol) is unfathomable, untenable and I’m pretty sure, unconstitutional.

as well as regurgitating dirtnap darrels interview from guitar world where he shits on alex skolnick and pretending it's your own thoughts

 

[DanTravis62]

Fuck it, I’m making this a no holds barred cage match now. Testament’s The Legacy may be THE best thrash debut album ever. I’m fucking serious.

If we limit it to thrash? Yeah, I can agree with that. It has everything except modern production for babies

 

[thegame]

as well as regurgitating dirtnap darrels interview from guitar world where he shits on alex skolnick

What’s this ???

 

[DanTravis62]

What’s this ???

Tech's entire opinion about Alex Skolnick being "robotic" and "just playing scales and the chords" is regurgitating verbatim an interview Dirtnap Darrell did with some magazine or other in the 90s - they became friends later on, btw

 

[DanTravis62]

Here's the link to the whole interview for anyone who's interested

https://www.thetapesarchive.com/dimebag-darrell-interview/

 

[thegame]

Tech's entire opinion about Alex Skolnick being "robotic" and "just playing scales and the chords" is regurgitating verbatim an interview Dirtnap Darrell did with some magazine or other in the 90s - they became friends later on, btw

While I DO like Dimebag’s playing and consider him a ‘feel’ player, AS plays circles around him and has no shortage of feel himself. I hate robotic shredders and I never considered AS to be one

 

[DanTravis62]

While I DO like Dimebag’s playing and consider him a ‘feel’ player, AS plays circles around him and has no shortage of feel himself. I hate robotic shredders and I never considered AS to be one

Correct, that's how I know Tech is just regurgitating that interview and it isn't even his opinion, he's just repeating what dirtnap darrell said because he likes dirtnap darrell and camo shorts and dv and busch ice

 

[Beyond Black]

Skolnick’s solos were precise, theoretical and extremely thought out, but to see he didn’t play with feel is just fucking ludicrous.

 

[DanTravis62]

Skolnick’s solos were precise, theoretical and extremely thought out, but to see he didn’t play with feel is just fucking ludicrous.

On the contrary, he had feel and melody from the beginning - that's the most memorable part of his lead playing his entire career

That "cinematic" lead part of "over the wall" and the melody foreshadowing in "alone in the dark" come to mind immediately

 

[romanianreaper]

I used to be a HUGE anthrax fan back In the day and then I went to a SOD gig and saw Scott be a total prick to a teenage kid. Totally soured me. This was back in the mid 80s.

Then I read some of the stuff that Billy said about Scott and it kinda backed up what I’ve seen at a few Anthrax shows.

I will say that I’ve had the pleasure of bumping into Frankie a few times. He’s always been super down to earth and cool with me. He used to work at his uncles Deli back in the day and I would stop by there and he’d be working behind the counter. Got him to sign a bass of mine that I still have. Cool dude.

I met Scott and Frankie about two years ago (Jack Osbourne was with them too) with my daughter. I have a shirt with Cliff Burton on yhe front that says "Cliff Em' All". When we walked up, Frankie immediately said "awesome shirt dude!". I walked over to Scott first and he signed some stuff and asked shst pickup he is using and with low energy he said "JB like I always have" and didnt seem too jazzed to be where he was. Not mean but just celebrity like.

We walked over to Frankie and were joking with him, talking about my band and gear, etc and he was exactly the guy I hoped he would be. We walked away and was still talking with him and left a great feeling wirh me. Jack Osbourne was super cool and down to Earth as well.

 

[angelspade]

I met Scott and Frankie about two years ago (Jack Osbourne was with them too) with my daughter. I have a shirt with Cliff Burton on yhe front that says "Cliff Em' All". When we walked up, Frankie immediately said "awesome shirt dude!". I walked over to Scott first and he signed some stuff and asked shst pickup he is using and with low energy he said "JB like I always have" and didnt seem too jazzed to be where he was. Not mean but just celebrity like.

We walked over to Frankie and were joking with him, talking about my band and gear, etc and he was exactly the guy I hoped he would be. We walked away and was still talking with him and left a great feeling wirh me. Jack Osbourne was super cool and down to Earth as well.

As a few have already implied: having spent some time around both of them, I strongly prefer Frankie over Scott any day.

 

[WizardAmpIphoneClip]

Scott Ian likes PB&J sandwiches

 

[Speeddemon]

The last 2 anthrax albums are super fucking good .
Honestly you’re going to kill me for sayin this but I’ve never found his lead kicks hard in metal or jazz ( Skolnick ) . Hrs great . But he just overatted af . He’s better than spitz ya but but I coujd play those silos n high school school . Idk I grew up on learning all the Steve Vai silos as a teen . So I saw shit from a duffebt perspective . If it wasnt hard af in highschool I didn’t play it . I was a snob.

Uhm, maybe less weed/booze and more autocorrect and interpunction?

Silos are maybe for weighing, not playing, just sayin'.

If you wanna be a snob, next time skip the local moonshine and get yourself a bottle of Dalmore 18yr single malt, or Belvedère wodka.

 

[Philhouse]

Same gear, limper old man's wrist then, I guess.

Either that, or the mix engineer is wanting to 'modern things up'...

Maybe that engineer needs to take a netsilnikufesin to this:





Even the 2020 remaster of Medusa still sounds tighter:

Yeah, I reckon it's a bit of both. Seems like they over engineer too much these days.

Similar vibe with Death Magnetic (yes it was a mix disaster), but my point is James made a big point about that he 'dug out the OG IIC+' as the primary amp to record the album with, after using a mixed bag of amps for Stanger, so in theory it 'should' have therefore sounded closer to their classic tones... but Greg/Rick absolutely made a dogs fucking breakfast of it.
They had THE classic Metallica amp and player right there to work with... and yet still tweaked the tones to absolute shit.
HWTSD had all his classic gear too, but you can barely tell. 72 Seasons had a OG Jose, but you wouldn't know because they seem to always fuck up the basic guitar tones. FFS just record it and leave it raw, stop tweaking tones to death to sound 'lively' and 'modern'

 

[Philhouse]

Scott seems to be always jumping from brand endorsement to brand endorsement. Always claiming the latest gear he is using is THE best EVAR.. then he changes in a few months. Can't trust him.
Plus he seems to claim he's always been using his OG King V -> TC BLD -> JCM800 set up for many albums... so what is he actually using?, is it that or the flavour of the month shit he's promoting in this editions Guitar World ads?
I respect his riff writing and his longevity in the scene for 40 years... but I don't believe much he actually says.

 

[Speeddemon]

I'm with ya, Phil... For Metallica it seems that Garage Inc. was probably the last time they had an actual good tone.

I will say I like HWTSD more than Death Magnetic; that one sounded screechy and over compressed beyond all fucks.

Them engineers should realise that the good older albums don't sound dated, but actually are still considered benchmarks for tight metal tones.
I mean, if a band has the choice to have their thrash metal sound now like whatever generic 5150/gated boosted djent, overly triggered and grid-corrected drums BS is the tone du jour, or if that production sounds like Among The Living, it's no fuckin' contest.

People should really seperate rough demo productions from hallmark staples, even if both were released in the mid 80's.

 

[Philhouse]

I'm with ya, Phil... For Metallica it seems that Garage Inc. was probably the last time they had an actual good tone.

I will say I like HWTSD more than Death Magnetic; that one sounded screechy and over compressed beyond all fucks.

Them engineers should realise that the good older albums don't sound dated, but actually are still considered benchmarks for tight metal tones.
I mean, if a band has the choice to have their thrash metal sound now like whatever generic 5150/gated boosted djent, overly triggered and grid-corrected drums BS is the tone du jour, or if that production sounds like Among The Living, it's no fuckin' contest.

People should really seperate rough demo productions from hallmark staples, even if both were released in the mid 80's.

Absolutely.
Garage Days Re-revisited is another example, it's VERY basic production and recording is a huge asset. The guitar tones sound raw as hell and so they sound memorable & awesome. So does Jasons Bass. It's a perfect example of why they should just stop over producing and processing things.

 

[angelspade]

I'm with ya, Phil... For Metallica it seems that Garage Inc. was probably the last time they had an actual good tone.

The guitar tones and frankly the overall production value of Garage Inc. may be the best I've ever heard. That record sounds surreal...It's that good.

 

[Techdeth]

Uhm, maybe less weed/booze and more autocorrect and interpunction?

Silos are maybe for weighing, not playing, just sayin'.

If you wanna be a snob, next time skip the local moonshine and get yourself a bottle of Dalmore 18yr single malt, or Belvedère wodka.

All thst matters is my playing . I know I hurt your feeling cause Skolnick is hard for you .lol. But my typing has no bearing on facts . I don’t say things like this much but some giys are just overated and guys who have less tech think they are good because they can shred . There more to it than that
I’m not that guy . The guitar is guitar and any of us can do any of it . It’s all about work . But there got to me . Alex just goes weedly do .