Anyone else turned off by PCBs?

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Good luck with the synergy stuff

The synergy would be a compromise for sure, and that is part of the hesitation

 

[valve]

The synergy would be a compromise for sure, and that is part of the hesitation

Yes it totally is, but can slay the OG if a perfect decoupling of pre and power amp supply is to your liking (as you discussed in the latest synergy thread).
i'say cramped boards suffer more from parasitic capacitance, the turret boards with it's long wires more from parasitic inductance. pick your poison.
i guess a good designers can account for both

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Yes it totally is, but can slay the OG if a perfect decoupling of pre and power amp supply is to your liking (as you discussed in the latest synergy thread).
i'say cramped boards suffer more from parasitic capacitance, the turret boards with it's long wires more from parasitic inductance. pick your poison.
i guess a good designers can account for both

It isn't as much reality as eccentricity that accounts for my preference. The decoupling you spoke of was just so goddamned good that I may get past my own ideological preferences

 

[Shask]

It isn't as much reality as eccentricity that accounts for my preference. The decoupling you spoke of was just so goddamned good that I may get past my own ideological preferences

I always think the separate pre/power always has a more immediate, punchy feel. When I go back to full heads after playing my Synergy stuff it can feel kind of slow and sloppy.

 

[valve]

I always think the separate pre/power always has a more immediate, punchy feel. When I go back to full heads after playing my Synergy stuff it can feel kind of slow and sloppy.

i like a good kick, but i have my days where i hate those immediate, bolt amps. i often like that give and i think it records better, too. sounds less sterile. recto in tube rectification for example. wizards sound too bolt and dry for me, in whatever clip i've heard.

 

[sytharnia1560]

my ears can't hear the difference so no

 

[Shask]

i like a good kick, but i have my days where i hate those immediate, bolt amps. i often like that give and i think it records better, too. sounds less sterile. recto in tube rectification for example. wizards sound too bolt and dry for me, in whatever clip i've heard.

Yeah, if I switch my Synergy rack from using the Mesa 2:90, to the KT88 KTG2100, or a poweramp of a head, like a 5150 or something, I can get quite varying feels when it comes to that. Using the power amp of a head instead of a rack poweramp makes it feel closer to using a full head.

 

[matttornado]

Makes no difference to me. It doesn't affect my ability to do any repairs of mods.

 

[FourT6and2]

Makes no difference to me. It doesn't affect my ability to do any repairs of mods.

Single sided PCB definitely makes things harder... You have to desolder half the amp in order to flip the board to remove/replace components. Double-sided, thru-plated PCBs mean you can work from the top.

 

[matttornado]

Single sided PCB definitely makes things harder... You have to desolder half the amp in order to flip the board to remove/replace components. Double-sided, thru-plated PCBs mean you can work from the top.

Surface mount components are really easy to repair and mod.

 

[Floyd Eye]

I know that well designed PCBs are extremely consistent and durable. But some part of me gets a big limpy when I hear handwired amp and then see it is a pcb.

Anyone else feel similar? I think bogner and mesa both really get me because there is so much shit going on. Mesa are complicated and stack components. Bogner has fuses on the PCB..weird shit

Only own one and it's a beater Vox AC10C1. It does sound pretty good and works ok for bedroom volumes, but I am under no illusion that it's anything more than a beater amp. Everything else is handwired, very vintage, carefully maintained and sports nice, vintage glass.