Bloodrock":3ib50qnt said:
Angry vengeful old testament god smites and punishes the wicked.. Then one day decides to send his son to save mankind.. after an eventful birth he isn't seen for 30 years, then people promptly declare him wicked and crucify him as a heretic.. God immediately becomes a loving forgiveful god because we murdered his only son.
Wow. Way to put a simplified satanic spin on the whole concept!
One of the devil's favorite tricks is to use God's Word to confuse people.
How about I put a different spin on what you just said:
God created man. Man sinned. God told man not to sin. Man sinned anyway. God told man he would have to atone for his sins.
Man sinned more. Patient, loving God allowed man to sin for a very long time, then finally grew tired of all the "sin and punishment",
since it was obvious man was not going to ever LEARN from his sins. So loving patient GOD created a NEW COVENANT for man.
God sent His only Son to our world, so that He could show and teach us a better way to live. God knew full well man would never
be able to avoid sin, so He sent His only Son JESUS CHRIST to PAY for OUR sins. "People" did not declare Jesus a heretic and crucify Him.
The Pharisees and the Sadducees ( the CHURCH ) of the time did not want to relinquish their power and authority over the masses, and
they saw JESUS as a threat. They rallied their brainwashed followers into turning against Jesus. They demanded the Roman ruler
arrest Jesus. The Roman Pontius Pilate even had to admit, he found no guilt or crime with Jesus. Pilate had to "wash his hands" of it.
The church and it's followers were asked, did they want to let Barabbus go, or let Jesus go. Barabbas was a known guilty criminal.
The crowd demanded Barabbas be set free, and Jesus be crucified.
So it was not "people" who rejected JESUS, just a certain "group" of influential people of the time. Lots of people were deeply saddened
at what was happening to JESUS. People who believed the teachings of Christ. People who were healed by Christ.
JESUS willingly accepted His divine fate, and went to the cross.
WHY? To PAY FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD. Jesus was not destroyed! After 3 days, HE was RISEN. JESUS LIVES.
And ALL who believe in the Lord JESUS will have everlasting life in God's kingdom. GOD loves us enough that He sent JESUS to pay
the price of SIN for us. All WE have to do.... is accept this gift. The free gift of LIFE. Or not. Perish if that is what you prefer.
GOD does not force anyone to choose Jesus. We have the gift of "freewill". The choice is up to us.
HELL was not created for man. HELL was created for the devil and the fallen angels. ( demons )
But if people want to worship the devil instead of GOD.... then people can JOIN their master the devil when the hammer of reckoning
comes down upon the world.
So the way I see it, GOD created the perfect system. It's free for all. It's EQUAL for all.
Nobody can "earn" their way in, lest they boast about it once they arrive. EVERYONE gets in the same way.
That way is JESUS. If GOD was an angry, vengeful, mean GOD... HE would have just wiped us all out eons ago! But He did not.
So there must be a higher purpose here.