Are there people here who still just mainly want all analog guitar stuff?
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harddriver
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After playing many hundreds of shows I've never seen a venue here in TX that required that. If a venue said "we're all DI here" I would tell them "great, just let me grab my tampon I mean modeler from the car" and then I'd go out to the bluesmobile and leave after dumping my ashtray and garbage into their parking lot. No compliance is the only option.
HellraiserJohnny
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I tried tampons for a while but they hurt sticking them up my butt! 
I am all tube (poweramps) and all anolog (processors) and the thing I missed when using modelers was the warmth and depth of the tube\anolog combination. Not to mention the fexability and rich tones I get with anolog processors when used correctly. I found you have to be very careful how much gain you use on each device because it stacks up and can cause distortion. I will admitt that I do have an Axe FX3 in the studio simply because they have amps and processors that I just could not afford in a rackmount rig.
I am all tube (poweramps) and all anolog (processors) and the thing I missed when using modelers was the warmth and depth of the tube\anolog combination. Not to mention the fexability and rich tones I get with anolog processors when used correctly. I found you have to be very careful how much gain you use on each device because it stacks up and can cause distortion. I will admitt that I do have an Axe FX3 in the studio simply because they have amps and processors that I just could not afford in a rackmount rig.
7704A
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Sproingy fun times are in transit...A new DIY spring tank pedal just came out. Thinking I might go with that instead of the DIY digital verb kit I have yet to build.
https://www.amplifiedparts.com/products/pedal-kit-mod-electronics-vortex-spring-reverb
SFW
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Honestly, I'd rather haul a 412 and a real amp. I think it sounds better.
stephen sawall
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Silent stage is not uncommon anymore.
I have canceled gigs because they wanted silent stage. I own the gear to do it. I'm just not interested in doing it.
Stage volume at most venues has been reduced over the decades. We don't have stage volume near as loud as years ago.
I have used 1x12 or 2x12 for a few gigs in the last five years. Definitely a compromise since I pretty much always use a 4x12 regardless of dB's in the room.
I have canceled gigs because they wanted silent stage. I own the gear to do it. I'm just not interested in doing it.
Stage volume at most venues has been reduced over the decades. We don't have stage volume near as loud as years ago.
I have used 1x12 or 2x12 for a few gigs in the last five years. Definitely a compromise since I pretty much always use a 4x12 regardless of dB's in the room.
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harddriver
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I'm still all analog except my delays and reverbs and detune/pitchshifting. I did try out the TONEX and it was rally good sounding through my computer monitors but the software was clunky from my downloads and that was disappointing. I also could not get the interface controller to function correctly and my version of it made me open my ToneX account manager to make the program run and I really didn't feel like I owned what I bought, more like I was renting it from IK multimedia so I'm glad I only dropped $200.00 or so on it. I haven't opened it in almost a year, if everything had worked correctly that might be a different story.
So far the Tonex is the best I've tried digital modeling/capture wise, I don't know how it would compare live next to and actual amp and cabinet setup but through studio monitors I can see the usefullness of the digital captures.
I just enjoy the being in the feedback loop between a guitar, real tube amp/amp and speakers breathing interacting with the amp, harmonic feedback when you hold the notes and bend them. To me it's just a better and more satisfying experience as a guitar player.
So far the Tonex is the best I've tried digital modeling/capture wise, I don't know how it would compare live next to and actual amp and cabinet setup but through studio monitors I can see the usefullness of the digital captures.
I just enjoy the being in the feedback loop between a guitar, real tube amp/amp and speakers breathing interacting with the amp, harmonic feedback when you hold the notes and bend them. To me it's just a better and more satisfying experience as a guitar player.
DECEMBER
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This all has a 100% analog signal path. The only FX that are digital are the reverbs and delay, but they have analog dry-thru. The only one that is full digital is the Boss SL-2 Slicer, but I rarely use it and it's just an analog buffer when bypassed.
I use analog reactive load boxes when recording direct. The signal remains analog until it hits the Thunderbolt interface. IRs are applied in the DAW and I use IRs I made of my own speakers.
I also use two analog drum machines (both Arturia DrumBrutes) for the majority of my drums and I have probably the cheapest analog synth available (Arturia MicroBrute) that can be patched into this whole pedal/amp chain with an A/B switch.
I wish I could record to 2" 24-track analog tape, but that requires a lot of money and space. I still have over 400 original albums on cassette, which is my preferred medium for listening to music.
I use analog reactive load boxes when recording direct. The signal remains analog until it hits the Thunderbolt interface. IRs are applied in the DAW and I use IRs I made of my own speakers.
I also use two analog drum machines (both Arturia DrumBrutes) for the majority of my drums and I have probably the cheapest analog synth available (Arturia MicroBrute) that can be patched into this whole pedal/amp chain with an A/B switch.
I wish I could record to 2" 24-track analog tape, but that requires a lot of money and space. I still have over 400 original albums on cassette, which is my preferred medium for listening to music.
IndyWS6
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I don’t know why people draw such a hard line between analog and digital. If it sounds good and works for you, who cares? I have both and bounce back and forth. It’s all good… 
Beyond Black
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Because one sounds great and the other sounds digital.I don’t know why people draw such a hard line between analog and digital. If it sounds good and works for you, who cares? I have both and bounce back and forth. It’s all good…
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VonBonfire
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Its uncommon in Texas. Doesnt seem common here in Chicago either, at least, among blues guys.
ghosty999
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I only care about the outcome / sound for live, so I'll use what ever.
At home, I do enjoy analog sources with at most some digital effects (like plate reverbs and delays).
At home, I do enjoy analog sources with at most some digital effects (like plate reverbs and delays).
ghosty999
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So if I give you 5 direct recordings, you'd be able to tell what was digital and what was analog?
BeZo
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I got comp tickets to Killswitch Engage, Machine Head, and Rivers of Nihl over the weekend. Every band was digital. They all had Kempers and side fills, and no backline whatsoever. It didn't sound bad. If it wasn't for people like me looking for gear, nobody would know the difference.
The thing that sucked was the silent stage approach. The concert didn't seem loud enough from the pit, because all the sound was in the mains. I couldn't get into it.
...That could also be because I haven't listened to those bands in 10 years or more, but I'll blame the lack of backline. I hate silent stage.
The thing that sucked was the silent stage approach. The concert didn't seem loud enough from the pit, because all the sound was in the mains. I couldn't get into it.
...That could also be because I haven't listened to those bands in 10 years or more, but I'll blame the lack of backline. I hate silent stage.
Shask
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Surprised Machine Head was using digital. They always seemed like a stack of 5150s band.
No Quad Cortexes? Those always seem the most popular for metal bands.
BeZo
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I didn't see them. That's what I was assuming. There were no 5150s spotted anywhere. I would have been way more into it if I heard a real 5150.
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VonBonfire
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Im sorry you had to go through that. Hopefully with a quality detergent itll wash out.
Beyond Black
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In the room I would.
ghosty999
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Last time a friend made this claim I set up with a looper pedal split into both, playing the same riff. They got 4/5 wrong.
AxeFX 2 -> Matrix Power Amp -> Cab
Mesa Boogie Dual Rec - > Valve Power Amp -> Cab
