Are we in the new 80s?

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Bloodrock":3jobzqoz said:
Better going back to 80’s shred than staying in the modern metal quagmire. Hopefully we’ve reached the lowest limits of down tuning and actual playing is coming back around.


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No, it's one of the last dying gasps of the rock guitar scene.
 
nigelpkay":nvq0jkj8 said:
In the metal world, at least in the underground, there is a lot of bands doing the retro NWOBHM thing circa 80-83, even right down to the clothes, you know, leather vests, bullet belts, mirror shades etc.. most are playing Gibson’s — Explorer’s, V’s, SG’s etc.. maybe some Jackson’s and B.C. Rich.
I like the odd band here and there, but copying the image and sound without some good song writing doesn’t go very far with me.

There are SO many obscure bands from that NWOBHM era, that wrote some killer songs you could totally steal now and no one would know. i'm kinda metal smart, but i have some friends who are older on FB are hardcore metal gurus, who always share new to me, old ass NWOBHM shit, that slays! I love that style, and am a bit cynical about new school bands doing it, but hey, whatever you gotta do to get people excited these days, fuckin do it!
 
One can only hope for a resurgence......but tbh I'd be happy for ANY rock at all to come back.

Sadly, I don't think it will happen. Anything that's cool with the 40+ crowd will not be cool with millenials and zoomers.
 
I would like to hear some bands that are NEW who do the 80's thing that you guys think are bringing the 80s back. Just out of curiosity. I liked a few of the bands but idk. I was born in 1980 so I don't think I was around for much of it. The 80s bands I liked were Skid Row and GnR which I don't think fall in line with the "80s" stuff you guys are talking about.
 
maddnotez":2p6l58kt said:
I would like to hear some bands that are NEW who do the 80's thing that you guys think are bringing the 80s back. Just out of curiosity. I liked a few of the bands but idk. I was born in 1980 so I don't think I was around for much of it. The 80s bands I liked were Skid Row and GnR which I don't think fall in line with the "80s" stuff you guys are talking about.
Their first recordings were in the 80`s dude. The thing that killed rock was that fuckn band called Nirvana period.
 
panhead":1t5jdt4x said:
maddnotez":1t5jdt4x said:
I would like to hear some bands that are NEW who do the 80's thing that you guys think are bringing the 80s back. Just out of curiosity. I liked a few of the bands but idk. I was born in 1980 so I don't think I was around for much of it. The 80s bands I liked were Skid Row and GnR which I don't think fall in line with the "80s" stuff you guys are talking about.
Their first recordings were in the 80`s dude. The thing that killed rock was that fuckn band called Nirvana period.


IMHO Nirvana killed hair metal, but not rock. Rock didn't die until about 2005.
 
I guess we'll see how well these bright pink floyd rose guitars sell...or if they go into the SDOTD bin in 6 months? I was never into that west coast glam thing but at this point, I'll take any guitar driven music lol

But yes, I did notice a bit of a resurgence. Cool stuff. Too much get off my lawn attitude in this thread though...probably have the screens on 300% magnification so they can iYell about the good old days.
 
Well Nirvana/Grunge then. Rock started to dwindle in the 90`s unless you consider grunge rock?
 
Was it not Metallica who first led the charge against hair bands? I seem to recall James Hetfield attacking them as being "posers". As far as who killed "hair band" music, I was listening to Soundgarden and AIice In Chains for at least 1 year before Nirvana hit MTV. Local bands in the Cleveland area (from my recollection) were never into the L.A. "hair band" thing.
 
panhead":2njbggqf said:
Well Nirvana/Grunge then. Rock started to dwindle in the 90`s unless you consider grunge rock?
Well... "grunge" is media term, so there's that. If you don't think this is rock, I'd like to know what you consider, rock?

 
Pentatonic":28ymuufh said:
One can only hope for a resurgence......but tbh I'd be happy for ANY rock at all to come back.

Sadly, I don't think it will happen. Anything that's cool with the 40+ crowd will not be cool with millenials and zoomers.
Okay, here’s my rant. I’m just going to put it all out there how I feel. I’ll go a step further. Anything perceived as “white” and “male”, or as portraying said demographic in a positive light will simply not be promoted in today’s mainstream, and will never be allowed to enjoy mainstream success, or serve as the dominant culture ever again. The era of white-male machismo like that of older hard rock music is over, and isn’t coming back. One must understand that the reason for the shitscape of a music industry today is not because what is promoted today is better music, or that people don’t like rock, but because there is a blatantly anti-white marxist cultural critique on every aspect of western society today, and those in charge of the music industry are no different than those im charge of colleges and our government. The music sold to the masses by the mainstream today and forevermore will reflect “diversity”, if not actively degrade and demoralize the aforementioned demographic. “Diversity” today means non-white. So you’ll either get hyper-negro culture spewed everywhere (i.e. thug rap/r&b), or weirdo LBGT-promoting, or “wahmen”-supporting music (Gaga/Swift/Perry). The only white men allowed to grace the mainstream radio or the stage at the Grammy’s are faggy, effeminate, shit-lib white cucks who pander to “diversity” (Adam Levine/Ed Sheeran/etc.)

I’m a millennial who is completely lost and trapped in my generation. I cannot fucking stand the culture of my generation, and I’m not even remotely open to “giving it a chance”. I don’t resonate with black culture, I’m sorry. Rap is like my kryptonite. It just clashes with my soul every time I hear it. Everything out today is just the antithesis of what I love in music. I love the riffy, groovin, guitar-heavy hard rock of the 80s. Today’s popular music is centered around blacks, gays, and women. You lose IQ points listening to rap, and testosterone listening to pop.

and I’m not for a second going to apologize for saying anything I just said. I stand by all of it to the moon and back. I refuse to do the “I’m not racist, but...”/“I’m not sexist, but...”/“I’m not homophobic, but...” shtick. I don’t gaf what anyone thinks. I’m more than happy being perceived as all of the above. Fuck you!

That’s my rant!
 
Classic hard rock really all kind of built on itself from the mid 60's with Clapton Bluesbreakers/Cream tone and shortly thereafter Hendrix all the way through the end of the 80's (with a bit of a short epilogue in the early 90's). It wasn't so much that Nirvana killed the 80's, it just was finally the big deconstruction that ended guitar players really building upon each other. In the 80's George/Warren/Jake were building off of VH and Randy, whom in turn were building off of their 60's and 70's influences (like EVH with Clapton, Randy with guys like Schenker). Slash certainly showed his love of 70's hard rock.

A band like Nirvana just wasn't into building off of that. They took more of their punk and alternative influences and people found that much fresher than what had run out of steam with mainstream hard rock. Even the harder guitar driven sounding material like AIC and Soundgarden had the heavy alternative vibe.

I can go from Cream to Zeppelin to KISS to Van Halen to Ratt to GnR to Bandlands in a heartbeat. It all kind of connects for me. It doesn't connect as neatly for me after that, even though the basic DNA is still there in tons of riffs and playing from the 90's on.
 
BigGuitars":12xipo2x said:
Pentatonic":12xipo2x said:
One can only hope for a resurgence......but tbh I'd be happy for ANY rock at all to come back.

Sadly, I don't think it will happen. Anything that's cool with the 40+ crowd will not be cool with millenials and zoomers.
Okay, here’s my rant. I’m just going to put it all out there how I feel. I’ll go a step further. Anything perceived as “white” and “male”, or as portraying said demographic in a positive light will simply not be promoted in today’s mainstream, and will never be allowed to enjoy mainstream success, or serve as the dominant culture ever again. The era of white-male machismo like that of older hard rock music is over, and isn’t coming back. One must understand that the reason for the shitscape of a music industry today is not because what is promoted today is better music, or that people don’t like rock, but because there is a blatantly anti-white marxist cultural critique on every aspect of western society today, and those in charge of the music industry are no different than those im charge of colleges and our government. The music sold to the masses by the mainstream today and forevermore will reflect “diversity”, if not actively degrade and demoralize the aforementioned demographic. “Diversity” today means non-white. So you’ll either get hyper-negro culture spewed everywhere (i.e. thug rap/r&b), or weirdo LBGT-promoting, or “wahmen”-supporting music (Gaga/Swift/Perry). The only white men allowed to grace the mainstream radio or the stage at the Grammy’s are are faggy, effeminate, shit-lib white cucks who pander to “diversity” (Adam Levine/Ed Sheeran/etc.)

I’m a millennial who is completely lost and trapped in my generation. I cannot fucking stand the culture of my generation, and I’m not even remotely open to “giving it a chance”. I don’t resonate with black culture, I’m sorry. Rap is like my kryptonite. It just clashes with my soul every time I hear it. Everything out today is just the antithesis of what I love in music. I love the riffy, groovin, guitar-heavy hard rock of the 80s. Today’s popular music is centered around blacks, gays, and women. You lose IQ points listening to rap, and testosterone listening to pop.

and I’m not for a second going to apologize for saying anything I just said. I stand by to the moon and back. I refuse to do the “I’m not racist, but...”/“I’m not sexist, but...”/“I’m not homophobic, but...” shtick. I don’t gaf what anyone thinks. I’m more than happy being perceived as all of the above. Fuck you!

That’s my rant!
That`s pretty much sums it up for today fellows. I understand what youre saying and its truth but most dont like the truth anymore. I was born in 59 and I witnessed the greatness of rocknroll Live in concert 100`s of times from AC/DC Bon/Zep/Sabbath/Skynyrd the real deal/Stones etc. you get the picture on and on. Whats happened in the last 20 years is funkn pitiful.
 
BigGuitars":18kz2ux8 said:
Pentatonic":18kz2ux8 said:
One can only hope for a resurgence......but tbh I'd be happy for ANY rock at all to come back.

Sadly, I don't think it will happen. Anything that's cool with the 40+ crowd will not be cool with millenials and zoomers.
Okay, here’s my rant. I’m just going to put it all out there how I feel. I’ll go a step further. Anything perceived as “white” and “male”, or as portraying said demographic in a positive light will simply not be promoted in today’s mainstream, and will never be allowed to enjoy mainstream success, or serve as the dominant culture ever again. The era of white-male machismo like that of older hard rock music is over, and isn’t coming back. One must understand that the reason for the shitscape of a music industry today is not because what is promoted today is better music, or that people don’t like rock, but because there is a blatantly anti-white marxist cultural critique on every aspect of western society today, and those in charge of the music industry are no different than those im charge of colleges and our government. The music sold to the masses by the mainstream today and forevermore will reflect “diversity”, if not actively degrade and demoralize the aforementioned demographic. “Diversity” today means non-white. So you’ll either get hyper-negro culture spewed everywhere (i.e. thug rap/r&b), or weirdo LBGT-promoting, or “wahmen”-supporting music (Gaga/Swift/Perry). The only white men allowed to grace the mainstream radio or the stage at the Grammy’s are faggy, effeminate, shit-lib white cucks who pander to “diversity” (Adam Levine/Ed Sheeran/etc.)

I’m a millennial who is completely lost and trapped in my generation. I cannot fucking stand the culture of my generation, and I’m not even remotely open to “giving it a chance”. I don’t resonate with black culture, I’m sorry. Rap is like my kryptonite. It just clashes with my soul every time I hear it. Everything out today is just the antithesis of what I love in music. I love the riffy, groovin, guitar-heavy hard rock of the 80s. Today’s popular music is centered around blacks, gays, and women. You lose IQ points listening to rap, and testosterone listening to pop.

and I’m not for a second going to apologize for saying anything I just said. I stand by all of it to the moon and back. I refuse to do the “I’m not racist, but...”/“I’m not sexist, but...”/“I’m not homophobic, but...” shtick. I don’t gaf what anyone thinks. I’m more than happy being perceived as all of the above. Fuck you!

That’s my rant!

Sad but true,


I guess I should give up my dreams of that guitar with custom Misogyny inlays :(
 
I wouldn't stress too much about the modern music scene, or world in general.

The 80's are legendary, always have been. Buy more crackle finishes, I've always found life seems better that way.
 
Pentatonic":9w8oy0ub said:
IMHO Nirvana killed hair metal, but not rock. Rock didn't die until about 2005.

Nirvana ultimately didn't kill anyone but himself.....and I have to disagree...all forms of heavy rock/metal took a hit. You had Megadeth dressing in suits, Metallica putting out load painting their fingernails....Dio reduced playing to small clubs.....Nirvana isn't even a pimple on the legendary RJD's ass. It lasted 4-5 years....some folks just can't let it go, and I don't understand why. YES, I would say in a LOT of segments of the music world the ship has been righted.
 
I may be wrong but I think part of what has killed rock is the ability to easily record from home with a plethora of DAWs on the market. I get that it has helped guitarists and other musicians have become better at their craft and the ability to record at home. That is a huge plus. Unfortunately everyone and their dog jumped on the ability to record electronic beats and rap from home. Then you get into grass roots marketing of their music and image. There is a lot more to it and many reasons but I think the ability for ANYONE to "make music" from home has muddied the waters. Just my $.02.
 
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