"Bogner blanket"

[PBGas]

Geese......this is one of those amps that I would love to own. I've tried many of them and I enjoy each one. Just love the tone out of them. I wish years ago I would have just bought this instead of the Einstein or the Herbert that I bought and sold away. This is one amp I would have most certainly kept. You folks that have one have a fantastic amp, Enjoy!

 

[jimo]

Used to own a 101b (should have kept it) and currently own a TwinJet. I would have to agree any blanket sound coming out of either of these amps would be user error.

 

[Setneck]

The blanket effect actually concerns XTC only. I played Shiva and Uberschall and these are totally different amps, tuned in other freqs, so no blanket there definitely.

Today on a rehersals I switched on C40 cap. And although having linear Treble pot, 22nF PI output caps and modified preamp, I immediately went back in the mix. After switching it off - I was there again .

But maybe that's only my ears

Regards, Andy

 

[joepete77]

I've owned a few bogners, and they do all seem to share qualities in the way they are voiced. I remember being blown away by the tone while playing alone or in a music store and instantly buying the amp only to find that I didn't care much for it in a band situation. If you are playing with a two guitar band it can be hard to cut through so I get where the blanket thing comes from. If you are the only guitar player in the band then it won't be a problem.

 

[DrugDM]

No blanket with my Bogner Shiva combo. I think the amount of low mids and bedroom volume may be the culprit. I was able to get a close out at GC for $1400 with 2 year pro warranty and so far no complaints other than trying to find el34's since SED winged are no longer made.

 

[C1-ocaster]

No blanket with my Bogner Shiva combo. I think the amount of low mids and bedroom volume may be the culprit. I was able to get a close out at GC for $1400 with 2 year pro warranty and so far no complaints other than trying to find el34's since SED winged are no longer made.

SED EL34's are still available in quite a few places.
Prices seem to be just a wee bit less than for 6L6's.

 

[DrugDM]

That's good to know. Thanks

 

[ampjunkie]

I saw Greg Germino gig a couple weekends ago. His Germino amps cut through perfectly but his other guitarists 101b sounded buried in the mix.

You can get 101b s to sound Marshall bright but you need some some extreme EQ. Presence must be high.

 

[supersonic]

I saw Greg Germino gig a couple weekends ago. His Germino amps cut through perfectly but his other guitarists 101b sounded buried in the mix.

You can get 101b s to sound Marshall bright but you need some some extreme EQ. Presence must be high.

There's no denying that the XTC is darker than say your average Marshall, but it's a sum of all parts, guitar wood, pickups etc etc. There's no reason why an XTC can't be set up to cut in the mix. User error?

 

[ampjunkie]

On a gig the Marshall will always be more present in the mix. Marshall frequencies sit perfectly between the bass and drums and vocals.

 

[LP Freak]

On a gig the Marshall will always be more present in the mix. Marshall frequencies sit perfectly between the bass and drums and vocals.

Agreed

 

[lespaul6]

On a gig the Marshall will always be more present in the mix. Marshall frequencies sit perfectly between the bass and drums and vocals.

Agreed

yep... and what's weird is that I thought everyone generally agreed on this back in 2005 when you could buy a 101b really cheap.. I got one from mosaholic for 1850 just to check it out, sold it three days later.

 

[Monster Plexi]

A term for idiots who have never played a Bogner and who don't understand the voicing or how to EQ an amp. Discuss.

-C

IMO, One man's mud is another man's warmth... Not everyone hears the same.

 

[guitarrhino]

A term for idiots who have never played a Bogner and who don't understand the voicing or how to EQ an amp. Discuss.

-C

IMO, One man's mud is another man's warmth... Not everyone hears the same.

True. Then again, some people who's opinions I think highly of, and of which are touring artists, have also stated that Bogners sound like they have blankets over them.

 

[maddnotez]

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

A term for idiots who have never played a Bogner and who don't understand the voicing or how to EQ an amp. Discuss.

-C

IMO, One man's mud is another man's warmth... Not everyone hears the same.

True. Then again, some people who's opinions I think highly of, and of which are touring artists, have also stated that Bogners sound like they have blankets over them.

Who might those be?

 

[Ventura]

A term for idiots who have never played a Bogner and who don't understand the voicing or how to EQ an amp. Discuss.

-C

IMO, One man's mud is another man's warmth... Not everyone hears the same.

True. Then again, some people who's opinions I think highly of, and of which are touring artists, have also stated that Bogners sound like they have blankets over them.

Steve Lukather and Jerry Cantrell hate 'em

 

[flash6969]

Lukather has been using 101B's for years now!! It seems strange that he would choose a blanket as his main amp?? Just sayin

 

[se7en]

A term for idiots who have never played a Bogner and who don't understand the voicing or how to EQ an amp. Discuss.

-C

IMO, One man's mud is another man's warmth... Not everyone hears the same.

True. Then again, some people who's opinions I think highly of, and of which are touring artists, have also stated that Bogners sound like they have blankets over them.

Steve Lukather and Jerry Cantrell hate 'em

 

[legend71]

Here is a vid of me playing through my 101B. No blanket effect to my ears. Crappy camera recording......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbspH3TgdwM