Bogner XTCs

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rlord1974":2srxy930 said:
Had an Ecstasy Classic. Great amp, but not as great as my Fish preamp. Unloaded the Classic and, about 6 months later, unloaded the Fish and all of my rack gear.

Now I have a 20th Anny Shiva, which I like better than both the XTC and Fish.

That having been said, the merry-go-round continues..... :D

Hey, I sent a pm regarding the 20 shiva VS the classic.

I may end up with this 101b because it's local but I think I would really love the more open classic.
 
The white chassis 101B is hands-down the best sounding XTC I've ever owned. The 100B was sweet, but it's clean channel was a generic "Fender" type with no chance of break-up at all. Kind of boring really... The 100B effects loop is a bit quirky also, and can be noisy/buzzy if you have the amp turned too low. The w/c 101B will give you 25 watt class A "tweed" tones like you wouldn't believe! My later model 101B's had a bit more gain, but were too compressed sounding for me. The musical director of Full Sail University has practically begged me to sell my '95 101B... I just can't do it. I have a 2 x 12 pine cab w/Alnico Golds as "Cabinet A" (assigned to the green channel), and a 4 x 12 pine cabinet w/Vintage 30's as "Cabinet B" (assigned to the blue and red channels). It's the most versatile rig I've ever owned for sure. It covers just about every tone I can think of - except for Cornford and VOX. I can get close to the VOX AC30 tones with the Alnico cab - but no cigar!
 
I have serious, serious GAS for one of these. Considering trading my VH4 for one if I can find any owners in the UK. Just such a killer amp - so much punch.

-C
 
spirit7":zlp9lhf9 said:
I have serious, serious GAS for one of these. Considering trading my VH4 for one if I can find any owners in the UK. Just such a killer amp - so much punch.

-C
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,no. Different amps altogether man, that's why I couldn't have one without the other. They're coming from 2 different places - the VH4 and the X. I don't want to choose and hence have a Bogner and Diezel as my keepers :lol: :LOL: I'm just saying, don't jump too fast as the VH4 is an outrageous amp - it's in its own class man, JUST like the 20thA

Mo
 
Ventura":mlaucn54 said:
spirit7":mlaucn54 said:
I have serious, serious GAS for one of these. Considering trading my VH4 for one if I can find any owners in the UK. Just such a killer amp - so much punch.

-C
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,no. Different amps altogether man, that's why I couldn't have one without the other. They're coming from 2 different places - the VH4 and the X. I don't want to choose and hence have a Bogner and Diezel as my keepers :lol: :LOL: I'm just saying, don't jump too fast as the VH4 is an outrageous amp - it's in its own class man, JUST like the 20thA

Mo

I made the leap from a VH4 to a 20th XTC last year. I miss my VH4 sometimes, but the Bogner is more organic for sure. Both great amps though!
 
20th Anniv. XTC owner here.

It's not without it's little quirks (like channel 1 not being able to keep up with 2 / 3 at all in terms of volume), but it's simply a piece of gear I will never ever get rid of. Perfect for me, and puts a smile on my face every single time I play through it.
 
SoldanoFan":1glo6k71 said:
RSRD":1glo6k71 said:
SoldanoFan":1glo6k71 said:
There's a white-chassis 101B on ebay now for $2500.00 USD.


Link? I can't find it when I search bogner.
Type in: Bogner Ecstasy. He has it up for $2500.00 or BO. I had both a 92 100B, and my 95 white-chassis 101B at the same time. I ended-up selling the 100B and my MK50H II in favor of the white chassis 101B. Not as compressed as the later XTC models; which may or may not be what you want? The cabinet switching option is the coolest feature ever!


Looked everywhere no findie. Someone must have bought it
 
You also need a fish too ;), do yourself a favour and buy a fish preamp and run it in your return effects loop then go buy a xtc 20th anniv too :P
 
Ventura":3g46hkp8 said:
spirit7":3g46hkp8 said:
I have serious, serious GAS for one of these. Considering trading my VH4 for one if I can find any owners in the UK. Just such a killer amp - so much punch.

-C
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,no. Different amps altogether man, that's why I couldn't have one without the other. They're coming from 2 different places - the VH4 and the X. I don't want to choose and hence have a Bogner and Diezel as my keepers :lol: :LOL: I'm just saying, don't jump too fast as the VH4 is an outrageous amp - it's in its own class man, JUST like the 20thA

Mo

For sure, I'll always have a Diezel. The Herbert is my dream amp: it's just absolutely perfect for what I do. The Mesa and Engl give me different flavours of high gain tone, too. But I want something more organic too...

-C
 
RSRD":3fss83ax said:
SoldanoFan":3fss83ax said:
RSRD":3fss83ax said:
SoldanoFan":3fss83ax said:
There's a white-chassis 101B on ebay now for $2500.00 USD.


Link? I can't find it when I search bogner.
Type in: Bogner Ecstasy. He has it up for $2500.00 or BO. I had both a 92 100B, and my 95 white-chassis 101B at the same time. I ended-up selling the 100B and my MK50H II in favor of the white chassis 101B. Not as compressed as the later XTC models; which may or may not be what you want? The cabinet switching option is the coolest feature ever!


Looked everywhere no findie. Someone must have bought it
I think you're right. I nearly purchased it myself - but that would have been a shameful display of greed... :D My favorite Bogner's so far: "Fish", white chassis 101B, and the 20th Shiva.
 
spirit7":rau2zs8f said:
Ventura":rau2zs8f said:
spirit7":rau2zs8f said:
I have serious, serious GAS for one of these. Considering trading my VH4 for one if I can find any owners in the UK. Just such a killer amp - so much punch.

-C
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,no. Different amps altogether man, that's why I couldn't have one without the other. They're coming from 2 different places - the VH4 and the X. I don't want to choose and hence have a Bogner and Diezel as my keepers :lol: :LOL: I'm just saying, don't jump too fast as the VH4 is an outrageous amp - it's in its own class man, JUST like the 20thA

Mo

For sure, I'll always have a Diezel. The Herbert is my dream amp: it's just absolutely perfect for what I do. The Mesa and Engl give me different flavours of high gain tone, too. But I want something more organic too...-C
Ya, enter the 20thA XTC :worship: :worship: :worship:

Thing just oozes tone... :yes:
 
Steve of 39 Stripes tells me that he's really loving his new Rhodes amp... Anyone else have any experience with these?
 
SoldanoFan":2uvv7rxb said:
Steve of 39 Stripes tells me that he's really loving his new Rhodes amp... Anyone else have any experience with these?
Um title Bogner XTCs

Keep on subject :gethim:
 
Ventura":2h5vrmbj said:
spirit7":2h5vrmbj said:
Ventura":2h5vrmbj said:
spirit7":2h5vrmbj said:
I have serious, serious GAS for one of these. Considering trading my VH4 for one if I can find any owners in the UK. Just such a killer amp - so much punch.

-C
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,no. Different amps altogether man, that's why I couldn't have one without the other. They're coming from 2 different places - the VH4 and the X. I don't want to choose and hence have a Bogner and Diezel as my keepers :lol: :LOL: I'm just saying, don't jump too fast as the VH4 is an outrageous amp - it's in its own class man, JUST like the 20thA

Mo

For sure, I'll always have a Diezel. The Herbert is my dream amp: it's just absolutely perfect for what I do. The Mesa and Engl give me different flavours of high gain tone, too. But I want something more organic too...-C
Ya, enter the 20thA XTC :worship: :worship: :worship:

Thing just oozes tone... :yes:


I am pretty much feeling similar things here. I have a Diezel Herbert and it's not going ANYWHERE.

Then we have the Bogner 20th XTC. Again a different animal, more organic is a great way to put it. The 20th has a variety of options as well. Lot's of tonal possibilities and as Brad mentioned, great foot controller. I would love to hear about settings that people are loving with their 20th XTC's, if that's not off topic.

I think in the end what V said is true, you find a few amazing amps and you stick with them. Others come and go, but these are the "must have's."

GtarLover
 
I've owned a XTC 100-B, and (2) 101-B's. I've played both the 6L6 and EL-34 20th Anniversarys. The 100-B and EL-34 20th are my favorites. I've also played the Rhodes. It's one of my favorite 6L6 loaded amps :)
 
I think the ecstasy is a great amp. Owned one in the late 90's. Just don't get one thinking you'll get great Marshall tones. I sold it because I missed that certain top end thing that a good 70's, early 80's Marshall gets. Don't get me wrong, I think the Bogner is sweet but it's a different animal. The blue channel is nice but I'd take a good 6 knob Marshall any day over it. I'd love to have one now because i wouldn't be trying to replace my Marshall with it. They are a warmer, darker amp but I found if you pretty much max the presence they can rock pretty hard and the red channel really comes alive for more metal stuff. I just wish the clean channel would break up worth a damn i.e. toneful breakup, not the harsh thing it has now. If the clean channel could distort more musically I bet in class A mode it would be a killer.
 
I personally have no need for a gritty clean channel. I like a pure clean like a shiva. So maybe the classic Aka 100b would be best suited for me.

Great posts guys. Thanks for all the input. This is why I'm coming here more and more!
 
RSRD":znj7g0dx said:
I personally have no need for a gritty clean channel. I like a pure clean like a shiva. So maybe the classic Aka 100b would be best suited for me.

Great posts guys. Thanks for all the input. This is why I'm coming here more and more!
I have the 6L6 version, great Fendery cleans
 
And you live kinda close to me. Let me know your address and when you leave town :gethim:

Seriously though I've never cared for 6L6s but I do think they are a good fit for this amp.
 
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