Can I get a mix tone check?

[GJgo]

Nothing that can't be fixed mastering wise, HPF/LPF, etc, everything negative I could say would be fixed with mastering type stuff

I think it sounds great, personally

I think you could get a way with a bit MORE low mids/mids on it, actually, too - if you lowered the volume a bit

Awesome, thanks man. One of the key things I learned is that I had to set up the isolated cab in a separate room so that I could have the amp in the same room as the monitors- then reamp a loop and dial in the tone while listening carefully to the monitors with the backing track going. This was huge in dialing in the tone. Required, really.

For the bottom end I really tried to walk the line of enough to get the chest kicking palm mutes, but not so much as to make it muddy. Also dynamically being able to keep the general levels around -6 while also keeping the really heavy PMs from clipping. It's a fine line. I'd rather my engineer not LPF any more than he has to.

 

[DanTravis62]

For the bottom end I really tried to walk the line of enough to get the chest kicking palm mutes, but not so much as to make it muddy. Also dynamically being able to keep the general levels around -6 while also keeping the really heavy PMs from clipping. It's a fine line. I'd rather my engineer not LPF any more than he has to.

At least for me, it helps to run a multiband compressor live through the guitar buss, and then make adjustments from there as far as the palm mutes not clipping

 

[mooncobra]

Hey guys, I've spent an embarrassing amount of time dialing in my guitar tone and reamping setup for the album. I'm finally at the point that I'm pretty damn happy with it. So, it's time to throw it to the wolves & see what I've missed. If you have a minute, have a listen on good speakers & weigh in?

Here's the link.

I'm not going to say a thing about the gear so you'll listen with your ears & not your eyes. Also keep in mind this is just a mixdown with dry guitars, NOT mastered.

Thanks!

I am getting a 403 error on your link. I tried it numerous times.

 

[GJgo]

I am getting a 403 error on your link. I tried it numerous times.

I just tried it & it works fine for me..? Try a different browser?

 

[Racerxrated]

Great job J! The main thing I take from it, your mids are very pleasing and cut almost like a Marshall in some ways while still remaining very much a Mark tone. I don't think that's very easy to do, from what recordings I've heard with Marks anyway. Which makes it your own, and that's very cool. Most of the rest of us are dialing in tones that are similar to what we like from other recordings.
Dig it!

 

[311boogieman]

I am getting a 403 error on your link. I tried it numerous times.

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I am getting a 403 error on your link. I tried it numerous times.

Are you running a VPN? That would do that. Turn it off and try.

 

[GJgo]

Here's another piece of the puzzle. I have 5 pretty common mics on hand, and used 2 of them blended for the album tone. Here's a clip with 9 sections of the mics in various combinations both blended & solo. I'll post what's what later, but for now what sound do you prefer? Call out the time stamp.

 

[RaceU4her]

The start of the third part at 1:00 for sure

 

[anomaly]

This is a cool tune. Is that a Mark IV? the palm mutes have that familiar sound. Either that or a IIC+ i'd say. Great tone dude.

 

[anomaly]

Here's another piece of the puzzle. I have 5 pretty common mics on hand, and used 2 of them blended for the album tone. Here's a clip with 9 sections of the mics in various combinations both blended & solo. I'll post what's what later, but for now what sound do you prefer? Call out the time stamp.

0 - 20 seconds sounded great to me, the next one was a bit of a shock to the ears, but it sounded OK too. I'd be happy with pretty much all of those tones, but the first one caught my attention the most.

 

[anomaly]

Great job J! The main thing I take from it, your mids are very pleasing and cut almost like a Marshall in some ways while still remaining very much a Mark tone. I don't think that's very easy to do, from what recordings I've heard with Marks anyway. Which makes it your own, and that's very cool. Most of the rest of us are dialing in tones that are similar to what we like from other recordings.
Dig it!

Honestly, I think those 2001 V30's have a LOT to do with that cutting almost marshall type tone, They have a upper mid spike to them at around 2 - 3k (I think?) that other V30's don't typically have. This tone could easily pass for a boosted jcm800 IMO, if someone said it was, i'd believe them.

 

[GJgo]

The start of the third part at 1:00 for sure

Alright here's the key! Where you called out is my second favorite blend. While it may have better cut than my favorite blend of the 609 & 7B, which is what we're using on the album, the 57 & 58 bring in some scratchy-ness to me where the 609/7B blend is smooooth.

This helped me to figure out for my tone I prefer the 609 to the 906, so it's a matter of what other mic is the best blend with the 609.

0:00 7B + 609
0:20 7B only
0:30 609 only
0:41 906 only
0:50 906 + 7B
1:01 609 + 57
1:11 57 only
1:22 58 only
1:31 609 + 58

 

[GJgo]

This is a cool tune. Is that a Mark IV? the palm mutes have that familiar sound. Either that or a IIC+ i'd say. Great tone dude.

Thanks man, this is the same reamping setup for the album as the song in the OP. Just a different song off the album.

The amp used is my IIC+ KRG, boosted by the Chiron.

 

[GJgo]

0 - 20 seconds sounded great to me, the next one was a bit of a shock to the ears, but it sounded OK too. I'd be happy with pretty much all of those tones, but the first one caught my attention the most.

That's my favorite as well, and the tone we're using for the album. It's just so damn smooth.

 

[GJgo]

Honestly, I think those 2001 V30's have a LOT to do with that cutting almost marshall type tone, They have a upper mid spike to them at around 2 - 3k (I think?) that other V30's don't typically have. This tone could easily pass for a boosted jcm800 IMO, if someone said it was, i'd believe them.

That (speaker) is definitely a thing. I'm in the process of converting all my cabs to 00-03 V30s & couldn't be happier. Older is fine too, but newer is hard to listen to now that I have these.

With that said, the other magic bullet here is the blending in of the SM7B. It has just the right amount of smooth mid presence that Marks could really use.

 

[GJgo]

Alright guys, following up for posterity, here's the final product. We ended up with a traditional GEQ V on my IIC+ KRG, boosted by a Chiron. however to get it to sit right we put a 3dB bump in the 2500-2700k range. It's a place a Mark just can't get on its own.