Ceriatone chupacabra 50 amp

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Thanks for the reviews...I'll be interested to hear your thoughts after a while on the new one. I have heard similar things about the QR, and am thinking about sending my Plexi to Dave for the treatment. I'm hoping the Ceriatone will be a good amp to gig with and it sounds like it has some cool versatility.
 
jasonP":2oh2pgh4 said:
I would think you would be able to find the correct value so this wouldn't need to be done.. what do you think?

I don't understand what you mean. The value of the resistor has no bearing on it being insulated with heat-shrink or not. It's about what type of signal is going thru the lead and where it's located in the circuit. Some components require heat-shrink to prevent oscillation, noise, shorting out on other parts, etc. It's not about being secretive...

Some builders goop up their builds to hide things. With Ceriatone, that isn't the case. The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp. There's no reason to hide anything.

How many amps have you built? :confused:
 
FourT6and2":1bppcrf7 said:
jasonP":1bppcrf7 said:
I would think you would be able to find the correct value so this wouldn't need to be done.. what do you think?

I don't understand what you mean. The value of the resistor has no bearing on it being insulated with heat-shrink or not. It's about what type of signal is going thru the lead and where it's located in the circuit. Some components require heat-shrink to prevent oscillation, noise, shorting out on other parts, etc. It's not about being secretive...

Some builders goop up their builds to hide things. With Ceriatone, that isn't the case. The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp. There's no reason to hide anything.

How many amps have you built? :confused:

I've built a jose type marshall an slo clone type and now doing a modded master volume.
thanks for asking. As far as being secret go to ceriatones web site and see if you can order piece parts or see any gut shots. This amp is not a diy kit that nik sells it is a complete amp that some people say it was copied.
What components have you found need shrink wrap to prevent oscillation?
 
Has anyone put their chupacabra up against a modded SLP or older marshall for that matter? Would like to know the headroom head to head because I am wondering how the output transformers are.

I know my SLP as good as it is was buried by Fortin's production amps in shear volume and headroom and in many people's opinion my cali is a very good example. I am sort of a volume whore so this is important to me.
 
FourT6and2":3vt6ip21 said:
[\The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp. There's no reason to hide anything.
Why do you think they haven't posted a layout of this particular amp? Seems strange given they post the layouts on everything else...

Steve
 
jasonP":3h40pvb7 said:
FourT6and2":3h40pvb7 said:
jasonP":3h40pvb7 said:
I would think you would be able to find the correct value so this wouldn't need to be done.. what do you think?

I don't understand what you mean. The value of the resistor has no bearing on it being insulated with heat-shrink or not. It's about what type of signal is going thru the lead and where it's located in the circuit. Some components require heat-shrink to prevent oscillation, noise, shorting out on other parts, etc. It's not about being secretive...

Some builders goop up their builds to hide things. With Ceriatone, that isn't the case. The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp. There's no reason to hide anything.

How many amps have you built? :confused:

I've built a jose type marshall an slo clone type and now doing a modded master volume.
thanks for asking. As far as being secret go to ceriatones web site and see if you can order piece parts or see any gut shots. This amp is not a diy kit that nik sells it is a complete amp that some people say it was copied.
What components have you found need shrink wrap to prevent oscillation?

It's usually a good idea to get swamp resistors as close to the tube pin as possible and shrink wrap them, isn't it? Especially in an SLO. When you have a resistor or other component in series with a flying lead, it's a good idea to wrap it. I misspoke, though. Heat-shrink can help reduce vibrations to certain components. And it will insulate, which is the main point, isn't it?

Do you have pics of your builds? I'm always interested in seeing other people's work. :)
 
sah5150":2npzywlx said:
FourT6and2":2npzywlx said:
[\The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp. There's no reason to hide anything.
Why do you think they haven't posted a layout of this particular amp? Seems strange given they post the layouts on everything else...

Steve

Probably because they haven't made one yet? Isn't this thing brand new? A lot of their other kits and parts didn't have pictures or layouts when they first came out. It took some time for them to become available. That, or they don't plan on making this a kit for whatever the reasons may be. But I doubt it's a big conspiracy as some people are making it out to be...
 
FourT6and2":18wma9qu said:
sah5150":18wma9qu said:
FourT6and2":18wma9qu said:
[\The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp. There's no reason to hide anything.
Why do you think they haven't posted a layout of this particular amp? Seems strange given they post the layouts on everything else...

Steve

Probably because they haven't made one yet? Isn't this thing brand new? A lot of their other kits and parts didn't have pictures or layouts when they first came out. It took some time for them to become available. That, or they don't plan on making this a kit for whatever the reasons may be. But I doubt it's a big conspiracy as some people are making it out to be...
Well, I'm certainly not saying there is any conspiracy here. I never noticed that they hadn't had pics/layouts for any of the amps before, maybe you are right there - I'm not on their site that much. However, if you are producing an amp, you are going to make a layout first. How else can you teach the folks who build them what goes where? I'm certain they already have a layout. It is strange they haven't posted it to me...

You made the statement that "The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp." If that is the case, why wouldn't they make a kit version of this amp? Seems odd they would go that way with this particular amp - plenty of the other kits would be more difficult to assemble...

Steve
 
sah5150":2cvutwmy said:
FourT6and2":2cvutwmy said:
sah5150":2cvutwmy said:
FourT6and2":2cvutwmy said:
[\The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp. There's no reason to hide anything.
Why do you think they haven't posted a layout of this particular amp? Seems strange given they post the layouts on everything else...

Steve

You made the statement that "The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp." If that is the case, why wouldn't they make a kit version of this amp? Seems odd they would go that way with this particular amp - plenty of the other kits would be more difficult to assemble...

Steve

Probably because it's a big conspiracy and they're ripping off Mark Cameron as well as the Merkin Vineyards 2006 Chupacabra.

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Oh and this, at 3:28

 
FourT6and2":3fpkmls3 said:
sah5150":3fpkmls3 said:
FourT6and2":3fpkmls3 said:
sah5150":3fpkmls3 said:
FourT6and2":3fpkmls3 said:
[\The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp. There's no reason to hide anything.
Why do you think they haven't posted a layout of this particular amp? Seems strange given they post the layouts on everything else...

Steve

You made the statement that "The whole basis of Ceriatone's business is DIY and the ability for the customer to build, modify and have an intimate knowledge of what's going on inside the amp." If that is the case, why wouldn't they make a kit version of this amp? Seems odd they would go that way with this particular amp - plenty of the other kits would be more difficult to assemble...

Steve

Probably because it's a big conspiracy and they're ripping off Mark Cameron as well as the Merkin Vineyards 2006 Chupacabra.

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Oh and this, at 3:28

The points I made are legit. Care to address them with your thoughts or do you just want to waste my time with bullshit that I said nothing about?

Steve
 
I believe the Goat Sucker is not offered as a kit so the only drawings are in the hands of the builder.
 
Digital Jams":3jz49zz9 said:
I believe the Goat Sucker is not offered as a kit so the only drawings are in the hands of the builder.
I just find it strange that this is the only amp they don't offer as a kit...

Steve
 
sah5150":3m1lrtpg said:
Digital Jams":3m1lrtpg said:
I believe the Goat Sucker is not offered as a kit so the only drawings are in the hands of the builder.
I just find it strange that this is the only amp they don't offer as a kit...

Steve

IS rather odd.

I will say there are FAR more people looking for Jose type clones than dumbles, matchless, etc so maybe there is something here to chew on.
 
Digital Jams":1ndi3xvl said:
sah5150":1ndi3xvl said:
Digital Jams":1ndi3xvl said:
I believe the Goat Sucker is not offered as a kit so the only drawings are in the hands of the builder.
I just find it strange that this is the only amp they don't offer as a kit...

Steve

IS rather odd.

I will say there are FAR more people looking for Jose type clones than dumbles, matchless, etc so maybe there is something here to chew on.
On this board/our circles perhaps, but I would question if that holds true universally :confused:

How accessible is Nik? If he's responsive, I would think that it should be pretty simple to get a direct answer to this isssue.
 
rupe":2pltu6m7 said:
Digital Jams":2pltu6m7 said:
sah5150":2pltu6m7 said:
Digital Jams":2pltu6m7 said:
I believe the Goat Sucker is not offered as a kit so the only drawings are in the hands of the builder.
I just find it strange that this is the only amp they don't offer as a kit...

Steve

IS rather odd.

I will say there are FAR more people looking for Jose type clones than dumbles, matchless, etc so maybe there is something here to chew on.
On this board/our circles perhaps, but I would question if that holds true universally :confused:

How accessible is Nik? If he's responsive, I would think that it should be pretty simple to get a direct answer to this isssue.

Well TGP is the only site other than the amp garage that speak about dumbles so to me that is the only crowd that wants dumble clones.

All sites talk marshall baby :rock:

Well maybe not those dorks at the boogie board :lol: :LOL:
 
I think Nik is trying to stay out of the fray here....He is aware of this thread....believe me. Nik is a good guy and a great business man. Ive bought several amps from him, in both kit and completed amp form. Ive never been disappointed in any of my transactions. He has always been available to answer any questions ive had. If you have questions regarding the amp, I suggest you contact him directly. I seriously doubt he is gonna chime in on this thread.
 
gtrwun":2gmct015 said:
I think Nik is trying to stay out of the fray here....He is aware of this thread....believe me. Nik is a good guy and a great business man. Ive bought several amps from him, in both kit and completed amp form. Ive never been disappointed in any of my transactions. He has always been available to answer any questions ive had. If you have questions regarding the amp, I suggest you contact him directly. I seriously doubt he is gonna chime in on this thread.

He's missing the boat if he doesn't. This is actually GREAT publicity for him.
 
I think he is getting the publicity by us talking about the amp....good, bad or indifferent. By not responding to the thread he is staying out of the drama. Pretty smart if you ask me. Just one persons opinion.
 
Agreed, seems like minds are made up here already, so I doubt any input would make a difference :)
He is smart to stay out of it.
 
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