I need a High Gain Marshall. Help me find one.....

[Blackie08]

Thanks for the help dudes.... I would really like to find a JVM and VH100R that I could play before I buy anything.... GC might have a JVM. I have achance to snag a voodoo platinum modded JVM for a good price.....

Just another question, what kind of speakers do you JVM and VH100R guys like to use??? Greenbacks? GT-75's? I was thinking about using my avatar 2x12 and putting in some warehouse guitar speakers (ET-65's).

some may disagree with me, but some of my fav tones out of the JVM come through a stock 1960B cab with gt-75s. However, I would generally give the nod to a cab loaded with greenies.

Case in point

Damn that sounded good. That was a greenback cab? Are there any relatively cheap high-power greenbacks? Or should I be ok with the WGS ET-65's

 

[cml694]

Thanks for the help dudes.... I would really like to find a JVM and VH100R that I could play before I buy anything.... GC might have a JVM. I have achance to snag a voodoo platinum modded JVM for a good price.....

Just another question, what kind of speakers do you JVM and VH100R guys like to use??? Greenbacks? GT-75's? I was thinking about using my avatar 2x12 and putting in some warehouse guitar speakers (ET-65's).

Hey, if you are interested in a Platinum mod JVM...I know someone who is selling one. Not sure if he has it, but I was going to buy it from him and it didn't work out. PM me and I can give you his email.


With the JVM and VH100R, I'd say Greenbacks.

 

[Blackie08]

Thanks for the help dudes.... I would really like to find a JVM and VH100R that I could play before I buy anything.... GC might have a JVM. I have achance to snag a voodoo platinum modded JVM for a good price.....

Just another question, what kind of speakers do you JVM and VH100R guys like to use??? Greenbacks? GT-75's? I was thinking about using my avatar 2x12 and putting in some warehouse guitar speakers (ET-65's).

Hey, if you are interested in a Platinum mod JVM...I know someone who is selling one. Not sure if he has it, but I was going to buy it from him and it didn't work out. PM me and I can give you his email.


With the JVM and VH100R, I'd say Greenbacks.

pm sent

I can't use the greenbacks in the 2x12 cab....

 

[cml694]

Thanks for the help dudes.... I would really like to find a JVM and VH100R that I could play before I buy anything.... GC might have a JVM. I have achance to snag a voodoo platinum modded JVM for a good price.....

Just another question, what kind of speakers do you JVM and VH100R guys like to use??? Greenbacks? GT-75's? I was thinking about using my avatar 2x12 and putting in some warehouse guitar speakers (ET-65's).

Hey, if you are interested in a Platinum mod JVM...I know someone who is selling one. Not sure if he has it, but I was going to buy it from him and it didn't work out. PM me and I can give you his email.


With the JVM and VH100R, I'd say Greenbacks.

pm sent

I can't use the greenbacks in the 2x12 cab....

Oh yeah, 50 Watts. I'd guess maybe G12 K100s.

 

[Blackie08]

Thanks for the help dudes.... I would really like to find a JVM and VH100R that I could play before I buy anything.... GC might have a JVM. I have achance to snag a voodoo platinum modded JVM for a good price.....

Just another question, what kind of speakers do you JVM and VH100R guys like to use??? Greenbacks? GT-75's? I was thinking about using my avatar 2x12 and putting in some warehouse guitar speakers (ET-65's).

Hey, if you are interested in a Platinum mod JVM...I know someone who is selling one. Not sure if he has it, but I was going to buy it from him and it didn't work out. PM me and I can give you his email.


With the JVM and VH100R, I'd say Greenbacks.

pm sent

I can't use the greenbacks in the 2x12 cab....

Oh yeah, 50 Watts. I'd guess maybe G12 K100s.

How about the G12 -65's???

 

[headlessdeadguy]

JVM sounds killer with the 1960a w/ t75s

 

[Blackie08]

Thanks for the input guys. I guess an Avatar Vintage 2X12 with either T75's, WGS-ET65's, or G12-H65's should work just fine.... unless there are relatively cheap higher power greenback type speakers.... Isn't there some kinda of eminence red coat that is a high power greenback?

Just gotta find a JVM to demo...

 

[Mudder]

The Private Jack is about the closest Emi speaker to a Greenback. I use one with one V30 in a 2x12 and it's pretty good. I think the speakers in the 5153 cab are high powered greenback types, but I'm not sure what make and model they are.

 

[jessebondrocks]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

 

[killertone]

bump for morning crew...

After all of this thinking I really wonder if the is such a drastic difference in the tones of a Makoplex or Titan as opposed to the JVM or VH100R...... probably not that much. hmm..

Seriously, man...OD1 orange on the JVM is 80's hotrodded Marshall heaven. My JVM chewed up and spit out a Mako Mak2 Dorado in a room full of amp snobs.

Now, let the JVM bashers do their thing.

No bashing here Jason. My other guitar player has a JVM and the only thing I can honestly say I dislike about it is the horrible GAS I get 2x a week when we rehearse. Damn that thing sounds great.

Right on, Mike. That amp can get brutal as hell on OD2 orange, too...I used that channel for rhythms with my band until I got the EP. I still love my JVM though.

 

[Blackie08]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

 

[jessebondrocks]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

 

[Blackie08]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

So I could get the JVM up to gig volume using the 2x12 and not even worry about blowing 2 greenbacks?

 

[jessebondrocks]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

So I could get the JVM up to gig volume using the 2x12 and not even worry about blowing 2 greenbacks?

Well if you're playing heavy stuff with a ton of bottom cranked significantly then i'd just be careful. If you play loud then there are higher wattage gb choices out there.

You may want to grab a couple warehouse 30's and find a used cab on CL and just drop them in and see if you have any problems. I'd rather blow a $30 speaker than a $100 speaker.

I've never blown one though and i've cranked it pretty good. You just have to be a little more careful.

 

[Blackie08]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

So I could get the JVM up to gig volume using the 2x12 and not even worry about blowing 2 greenbacks?

Well if you're playing heavy stuff with a ton of bottom cranked significantly then i'd just be careful. If you play loud then there are higher wattage gb choices out there.

You may want to grab a couple warehouse 30's and find a used cab on CL and just drop them in and see if you have any problems. I'd rather blow a $30 speaker than a $100 speaker.

I've never blown one though and i've cranked it pretty good. You just have to be a little more careful.

Not really playing "heavy" stuff. Just 80's Hair and 70's/80's hard rock stuff. I think I would still like to see some of the high wattage gb options anyway. I was thinking like G12-h65's or the warehouse et-65's or maybe an eminence private jack...

 

[jessebondrocks]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

So I could get the JVM up to gig volume using the 2x12 and not even worry about blowing 2 greenbacks?

Well if you're playing heavy stuff with a ton of bottom cranked significantly then i'd just be careful. If you play loud then there are higher wattage gb choices out there.

You may want to grab a couple warehouse 30's and find a used cab on CL and just drop them in and see if you have any problems. I'd rather blow a $30 speaker than a $100 speaker.

I've never blown one though and i've cranked it pretty good. You just have to be a little more careful.

Not really playing "heavy" stuff. Just 80's Hair and 70's/80's hard rock stuff. I think I would still like to see some of the high wattage gb options anyway. I was thinking like G12-h65's or the warehouse et-65's or maybe an eminence private jack...

I think all of those are decent choices. the private jack does sound good.

 

[Blackie08]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

So I could get the JVM up to gig volume using the 2x12 and not even worry about blowing 2 greenbacks?

Well if you're playing heavy stuff with a ton of bottom cranked significantly then i'd just be careful. If you play loud then there are higher wattage gb choices out there.

You may want to grab a couple warehouse 30's and find a used cab on CL and just drop them in and see if you have any problems. I'd rather blow a $30 speaker than a $100 speaker.

I've never blown one though and i've cranked it pretty good. You just have to be a little more careful.

Not really playing "heavy" stuff. Just 80's Hair and 70's/80's hard rock stuff. I think I would still like to see some of the high wattage gb options anyway. I was thinking like G12-h65's or the warehouse et-65's or maybe an eminence private jack...

I think all of those are decent choices. the private jack does sound good.

Thanks for your help bro. I'll probably go with either the Private jacks or WGS ET-65's..... now I just gotta find a cheap JVM lol..

 

[jessebondrocks]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

So I could get the JVM up to gig volume using the 2x12 and not even worry about blowing 2 greenbacks?

Well if you're playing heavy stuff with a ton of bottom cranked significantly then i'd just be careful. If you play loud then there are higher wattage gb choices out there.

You may want to grab a couple warehouse 30's and find a used cab on CL and just drop them in and see if you have any problems. I'd rather blow a $30 speaker than a $100 speaker.

I've never blown one though and i've cranked it pretty good. You just have to be a little more careful.

Not really playing "heavy" stuff. Just 80's Hair and 70's/80's hard rock stuff. I think I would still like to see some of the high wattage gb options anyway. I was thinking like G12-h65's or the warehouse et-65's or maybe an eminence private jack...

I think all of those are decent choices. the private jack does sound good.

Thanks for your help bro. I'll probably go with either the Private jacks or WGS ET-65's..... now I just gotta find a cheap JVM lol..

HAHA! it's funny because jvm's just don't hold their value for some reason. i've seen new ones for 1350 (that was a while ago tho).... and used ones for 1100 ish. I would try my best not to pay 2200 for it. it sounds 2200 good but you'll just lose a lot if you decide to sell one day. they're out there for sure.

 

[Blackie08]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

So I could get the JVM up to gig volume using the 2x12 and not even worry about blowing 2 greenbacks?

Well if you're playing heavy stuff with a ton of bottom cranked significantly then i'd just be careful. If you play loud then there are higher wattage gb choices out there.

You may want to grab a couple warehouse 30's and find a used cab on CL and just drop them in and see if you have any problems. I'd rather blow a $30 speaker than a $100 speaker.

I've never blown one though and i've cranked it pretty good. You just have to be a little more careful.

Not really playing "heavy" stuff. Just 80's Hair and 70's/80's hard rock stuff. I think I would still like to see some of the high wattage gb options anyway. I was thinking like G12-h65's or the warehouse et-65's or maybe an eminence private jack...

I think all of those are decent choices. the private jack does sound good.

Thanks for your help bro. I'll probably go with either the Private jacks or WGS ET-65's..... now I just gotta find a cheap JVM lol..

HAHA! it's funny because jvm's just don't hold their value for some reason. i've seen new ones for 1350 (that was a while ago tho).... and used ones for 1100 ish. I would try my best not to pay 2200 for it. it sounds 2200 good but you'll just lose a lot if you decide to sell one day. they're out there for sure.

I am going used for sure dude, currently trolling craigslist and flea bay. There is one for 1399 BIN now but i'm still looking to see I can find a better deal.

 

[jessebondrocks]

I use my 2/12 gb cab all the time with my jvm. it sounds great. just watch the volume and you're good.

I also have a 1/12 mesa roadster cab with a v30 that sounds good as well. it's a little more modern sounding than the gb cab.

I have a 2/12 75 cab as well and for recording it's just meh. it sounds decent in a live room but 75's just don't always shine on marshalls like gb's do imo.

GB + Marshall = TONE HEAVEN!

And that is why I am looking for a higher powered GB type speaker

I'm curious as to how you use a 50W GB cab with your JVM. Did you pull 2 tubes and rebias? Or just make sure you don't turn it up all that loud?

The speakers aren't going to blow without significant volume. The jvm isn't quite as loud as other 100 watters either (some don't like it for that). As long as the ohm load is good you're good... but you do have to watch the volume. I easily take it up to 12/1 oclock without even worrying and that's plenty loud enough for the amp to breathe. my master usually stays around 10 oclock and my channel volumes at 12 or 1 ish and it's fine.

I actually get more nervous running my 84' 50w 800 through the cab. it's so ungodly loud that it just freaks me out. speaker distortion is sometimes desirable... but too much will tear it. you can usually tell when it's pushing too hard.

So I could get the JVM up to gig volume using the 2x12 and not even worry about blowing 2 greenbacks?

Well if you're playing heavy stuff with a ton of bottom cranked significantly then i'd just be careful. If you play loud then there are higher wattage gb choices out there.

You may want to grab a couple warehouse 30's and find a used cab on CL and just drop them in and see if you have any problems. I'd rather blow a $30 speaker than a $100 speaker.

I've never blown one though and i've cranked it pretty good. You just have to be a little more careful.

Not really playing "heavy" stuff. Just 80's Hair and 70's/80's hard rock stuff. I think I would still like to see some of the high wattage gb options anyway. I was thinking like G12-h65's or the warehouse et-65's or maybe an eminence private jack...

I think all of those are decent choices. the private jack does sound good.

Thanks for your help bro. I'll probably go with either the Private jacks or WGS ET-65's..... now I just gotta find a cheap JVM lol..

HAHA! it's funny because jvm's just don't hold their value for some reason. i've seen new ones for 1350 (that was a while ago tho).... and used ones for 1100 ish. I would try my best not to pay 2200 for it. it sounds 2200 good but you'll just lose a lot if you decide to sell one day. they're out there for sure.

I am going used for sure dude, currently trolling craigslist and flea bay. There is one for 1399 BIN now but i'm still looking to see I can find a better deal.

yea.... 14 is too high for used imo. I'd want 12 to 13 at most.