Mesa 90ies Triple Rectifier

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They feel just as good as the Dual RI's. The preamps between the Dual RI and Triple RI are about as identical as two amps can be. One is not tighter or looser than the other. The Triples have a little bit more headroom which means they hold together better at high volume but otherwise they're extremely close.
Yeah, to be clear, the difference is in the power section. Going from a 100 W power section to a 150 W power section isn’t as dramatic as going to 100 W from 50 W, but the changes are similar, e.g. punchier, bolder, “stiffer”, but it only really affects the feel if you’re running the power section loud enough to distort. Even on a dual, that’s very loud
 
They feel just as good as the Dual RI's. The preamps between the Dual RI and Triple RI are about as identical as two amps can be. One is not tighter or looser than the other. The Triples have a little bit more headroom which means they hold together better at high volume but otherwise they're extremely close.
I disagree with this in part, I can say the preamp is the se but having owned one and two duals and a triple the power sections are not the same. If it is in the transformers and or filtering idk but they are different and if this thread persists enough will back it up. I'll go as far as to say that any boosted dual will deliver where the new reissue triple cannot except in headroom.
 
That’s my concern. It seems that many of the RT community have the same sentiment. Can’t tell you how many YouTube reviews I’ve watched and rewatched of the dual. That thing slays. …also, I like the idea of having to fight back the flub with a boost. The net result is really pleasing to my ears. The duals seem to do this thing really well.

….i wonder if the triple is tight already, and doesn’t take boosts in the way the dual does. My go to is the maxon 808, and the Fortin Blade. Does the triple have the flub and girth?
Try to find one locally to play or buy one from a dealer with a return policy. This “fight back the flub with a boost” thing is one of many ways to run a rectifier, and, in my experience, is heavily influenced by the cab you plug it into. Orange vintage with EL34s through a Marshall cab with T75s is very different from Red modern with 6L6s through the oversized recto cab.

The triple has everything the dual does. It just has more headroom. That’s really it. If you play very loud, and don’t like what the dual does when it starts to break up at those volumes, the triple was designed for that exact use case. Other than that, the dual is the more popular amp for a reason.
 
I disagree with this in part, I can say the preamp is the se but having owned one and two duals and a triple the power sections are not the same. If it is in the transformers and or filtering idk but they are different and if this thread persists enough will back it up. I'll go as far as to say that any boosted dual will deliver where the new reissue triple cannot except in headroom.
The power sections are obviously not the same. One is 150 W with 6 power tubes and the other is 100 W through 4 power tubes. Transformers, filtering, plate voltage, etc. are all different.

As for “delivering”, again it depends how you’re using it, just like some guys swear they only get the sound and feel they want from 50 W Marshalls and never can out of the 100 W ones
 
I disagree with this in part, I can say the preamp is the se but having owned one and two duals and a triple the power sections are not the same. If it is in the transformers and or filtering idk but they are different and if this thread persists enough will back it up. I'll go as far as to say that any boosted dual will deliver where the new reissue triple cannot except in headroom.

Wait, if the preamps between the amps are the same and the Triple is tighter at high volumes, how could that possibly mean Triple can't deliver where the Dual can? Maybe if you prefer poweramp distortion then the Dual will give you more of that at equal volumes, but I don't imagine there are too many Recto users who specifically go for that.

Here's a link where we talked about this the other day, the post where I showed clips of the same direct guitar signal into both amps. They're virtually identical except I had a bit more high Presence dialed into the Triple. The clips phase canceled out to more than -35 db. That's about as identical as two amps can be.

 
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Wait, if the preamps between the amps are the same and the Triple is tighter at high volumes, how could that possibly mean Triple can't deliver where the Dual can? Maybe if you prefer poweramp distortion then the Dual will give you more of that, but I don't imagine there are too many Recto users who specifically go for that.

Here's a link where we talked about this the other day, the post where I showed clips of the same direct guitar signal into both amps. They're virtually identical except I had a bit more high Presence dialed into the Triple. The clips phase canceled out to more than -35 db. That's about as identical as two amps can be.

Going back and forth with a switcher is one of those things that permanently humbles you within minutes IMO. I’m not saying you’re going to make a 6505 sound like a cranked tweed deluxe or anything, but it’s almost alarming how close together you can dial two totally different rigs, especially if the player and the guitar are the same
 
I've had my Triple RI for 5 months or so. I can't compare it to the Dual RI as I've not played one. I've always preferred the Triple to the Duals; long ago I tried to like a few early G small logo Duals and they weren't my thing. Low mid bloat that I didn't care for. The C Dual I had, and 2 F Triples were amazing though.
The Triple Reissue has GREAT feel. That's the first thing that I noticed. The feel is on par with the C Recto that I had. Even the F Triples didn't have the feel of this Triple, and the Fs do have better feel than any G dual/Triple I owned.
This RI Triple is the best Rectifier I've owned. Over a C Dual, and 2 F Triples that were also amazing. The 2 G Triples, and 2 G Duals I had paled to the 2 Fs and C Dual. I wouldn't bother with any of those G Rectos.
Grab one of the Reissues....you can't go wrong with either one.
 
We did and in the room they aren't, graphs aside!

I think that’s impossible to say. In the room you have so many more variables like where the cabs are relative to the room, where the listener is, etc. Even if you put the two amps next to each other into different cabs sat next to each other, that’s still two different cab locations in the room, and two different listening positions relative to each cab. The same amp plugged into those two cabs will sound different. Moving your head a bit in any direction will change the sound even more still.

If it sounds the same in a recording with all other variables removed, it will sound the same in the room with all other variables removed.
 
No reason to debate that but there's one factor that you fail to mention and I trust it every time, my ear. I flat out know they aren't the same and the differences go beyond headroom...
 
No reason to debate that but there's one factor that you fail to mention and I trust it every time, my ear. I flat out know they aren't the same and the differences go beyond headroom...

Always trust your ears! But don’t trust the room. :)

Well, maybe the ones you had weren’t the same, but the clips I posted of the two amps don’t lie.
 
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I think that’s impossible to say. In the room you have so many more variables like where the cabs are relative to the room, where the listener is, etc. Even if you put the two amps next to each other into different cabs sat next to each other, that’s still two different cab locations in the room, and two different listening positions relative to each cab. The same amp plugged into those two cabs will sound different. Moving your head a bit in any direction will change the sound even more still.

If it sounds the same in a recording with all other variables removed, it will sound the same in the room with all other variables removed.
You ideally run into the same cab and have someone else switching and dialing based on your feedback while you play. Almost certainly, you’ll get to a point where your answer to “1 or 2?” is “I can’t notice any difference”
 
I know a RTer who bought the Triple Ri, returned it, and now owns a Dual RI. I also know another RTer who owned a Dual RI, bought a Triple RI, and traded off the Dual RI for another amp. He likes the Triple just a bit better. To his ears, very close but the obvious differences one would expect like more headroom/less mids/more highs/lows won him over.
Just so there's more confusion.
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I know a RTer who bought the Triple Ri, returned it, and now owns a Dual RI. I also know another RTer who owned a Dual RI, bought a Triple RI, and traded off the Dual RI for another amp. He likes the Triple just a bit better. To his ears, very close but the obvious differences one would expect like more headroom/less mids/more highs/lows won him over.
Just so there's more confusion.
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RTers have insatiable GAS, so these anecdotes don't surprise me at all. If someone likes _any_ 2 channel dual or triple rec though, the real test is: would they lug theirs themselves if they were playing a show that had the other one provided as backline? I personally own a rev G triple, and would use any dual or triple rec (or a DSL, or a 2203, or a 5150...) in a backline versus carrying mine.
 
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