Metallica ALL axe FX??????

[Beyond Black]

Metallica is the new Rolling Stones, a monster legacy act that tours and makes lots of people happy. Not even remotely relevant for new material, when they rarely do so. It is what it is...they are huge and small at the same time depending on how you look at it.

It's funny, if you told me back in the 80's that I'd be enjoying Overkill 50X more than Metallica at some point in my life, I wouldn't have believed it. And yet here I am.

Oh yeah, Overkill. I forgot to put them on my list of old timers that still bring it. I don't understand this talk of Metallica being a "rock" band. They are most definitely a "metal" band. It may be weak metal, but metal nonetheless.

 

[Beyond Black]

Is Metallica even still relevant

Absolutely not. We still haven't finished discussing the tone on the 1st VH album.

 

[JimAnsell]

metallica threads always bring out the worst in people.
Especially with these Tr00, internet troll, metal fans that hate everything once it gains a certain level of popularity.
no one cares that your favorite metal band is "better".
no one cares how you classify them (metal or rock).
The fact is, they're still gunna sell out tomorrow nights gig where ever on the planet they play, and any record they put out will always go platinum.
save your anger, accept it, and move on.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

metallica threads always bring out the worst in people.
Especially with these Tr00, internet troll, metal fans that hate everything once it gains a certain level of popularity.
no one cares that your favorite metal band is "better".
no one cares how you classify them (metal or rock).
The fact is, they're still gunna sell out tomorrow nights gig where ever on the planet they play, and any record they put out will always go platinum.
save your anger, accept it, and move on.

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. We are talking about their tone.. and it sucks.

 

[JimAnsell]

hey, i'm not the one who turned this thread into the direction it went in.
If you bring up anything about metallica on the internet with other people, it almost always turns into "metallica sucks, so and so is better cause i said so! nah!"

 

[anomaly]

It's just dumb kids ragging on the band, so who cares. I still love metallica and always will, despite their lack of creativity these days. Musicians get old and they inevitably lose that creative drive that once made them great. Happens to almost everyone, and we blame them for this...? They still put on a great show and probably still will until they are in their 60's...but they really should re-evaluate their tone a bit. James and Kirk are on a bit of a "more mids" kick these days. There is nothing wrong with scooping your tone if the outcome of it is a killer tone, and it still has enough cut to work in a mix. Same with boosting the mids, but it's really a very un-metal tone they have got in the last year or two.

 

[Beyond Black]

metallica threads always bring out the worst in people.
Especially with these Tr00, internet troll, metal fans that hate everything once it gains a certain level of popularity.
no one cares that your favorite metal band is "better".
no one cares how you classify them (metal or rock).
The fact is, they're still gunna sell out tomorrow nights gig where ever on the planet they play, and any record they put out will always go platinum.
save your anger, accept it, and move on.

Here we go again, equating popularity with greatness. You must think Katy Perry is amazing.

 

[Beyond Black]

It's just dumb kids ragging on the band, so who cares. I still love metallica and always will, despite their lack of creativity these days. Musicians get old and they inevitably lose that creative drive that once made them great. Happens to almost everyone, and we blame them for this...? They still put on a great show and probably still will until they are in their 60's...but they really should re-evaluate their tone a bit. James and Kirk are on a bit of a "more mids" kick these days.There's nothing wrong with scooping your tone if the outcome of it is a killer tone, and it still has enough cut to work in a mix. Same with boosting the mids, but it's really a very un-metal tone they have got in the last year or two.

Dumb kids? I'm 44 and had K.E.A. when it came out in '83. I watched them transform from the mightiest band in metal, into a calculated, commercial product. And Metallica didn't get "old" and lose their creative drive. They got rich, bloated and complacent. Most of those bands I mentioned above from Metallica's generation (Exodus, Machine Head, Overkill, Testament) are not only still creativity driven, but they're on top of their games. Love them all you want, that's cool and it's your right. Just like it's mine to hate them openly on a public forum.

 

[Piero the Guitarero]

Ok so I know I might be late to the party I just read this article http://www.g66.eu/articles/890-metallica-backstage is this true

Hell yes, you're late to the party ....

Metallica at the Rock Am Ring.

 

[anomaly]

It's just dumb kids ragging on the band, so who cares. I still love metallica and always will, despite their lack of creativity these days. Musicians get old and they inevitably lose that creative drive that once made them great. Happens to almost everyone, and we blame them for this...? They still put on a great show and probably still will until they are in their 60's...but they really should re-evaluate their tone a bit. James and Kirk are on a bit of a "more mids" kick these days.There's nothing wrong with scooping your tone if the outcome of it is a killer tone, and it still has enough cut to work in a mix. Same with boosting the mids, but it's really a very un-metal tone they have got in the last year or two.

Dumb kids? I'm 44 and had K.E.A. when it came out in '83. I watched them transform from the mightiest band in metal, into a calculated, commercial product. And Metallica didn't get "old" and lose their creative drive. They got rich, bloated and complacent. Most of those bands I mentioned above from Metallica's generation (Exodus, Machine Head, Overkill, Testament) are not only still creativity driven, but they're on top of their games. Love them all you want, that's cool and it's your right. Just like it's mine to hate them openly on a public forum.

Why hate on them, there is no reason for it?? They've released many good albums in the 80's so just be happy for those...RTL, MOP etc...

You compare them to machine head?? haha, ok, but Machine head have only one good album IMO. Overkill?? ok then... Why compare them to anyone? they are in a leaque of their own.

 

[wIsEbLooD]

metallicas tone has sucked since forever and it has nothing to do with gear.

 

[King Guitar]

I love Metallica but then again I am old. I remember seeing them open for Ozzy on The Ultimate Sin tour in 1986 I think and they sucked! The PA was out of wack and it was mush. Then I saw them a year or so later with their own gear and PA and they were Epic. Maybe Ozzy had the FOH jack them up a bit to not shine so much. Good band.

 

[Beyond Black]

It's just dumb kids ragging on the band, so who cares. I still love metallica and always will, despite their lack of creativity these days. Musicians get old and they inevitably lose that creative drive that once made them great. Happens to almost everyone, and we blame them for this...? They still put on a great show and probably still will until they are in their 60's...but they really should re-evaluate their tone a bit. James and Kirk are on a bit of a "more mids" kick these days.There's nothing wrong with scooping your tone if the outcome of it is a killer tone, and it still has enough cut to work in a mix. Same with boosting the mids, but it's really a very un-metal tone they have got in the last year or two.

Dumb kids? I'm 44 and had K.E.A. when it came out in '83. I watched them transform from the mightiest band in metal, into a calculated, commercial product. And Metallica didn't get "old" and lose their creative drive. They got rich, bloated and complacent. Most of those bands I mentioned above from Metallica's generation (Exodus, Machine Head, Overkill, Testament) are not only still creativity driven, but they're on top of their games. Love them all you want, that's cool and it's your right. Just like it's mine to hate them openly on a public forum.

Why hate on them, there is no reason for it?? They've released many good albums in the 80's so just be happy for
those...RTL, MOP et

You compare them to machine head?? haha, ok, but Machine head have only one good album IMO. Overkill?? ok then... Why compare them to anyone? they are in a leaque of their own.

You've managed to successfully miss (or dodge) every point that I've made and the meaning behind them. Carry on.....

 

[BrentSSL]

lol i'm so confused who said what now. But i know machine head wasn't around till the 90's and the bside of the thrash metal genre is just as awesome as the Big 4 personally I don't really get Anthrax i would have preferred Testament to be on that stage or Exodus I think they went by variety and who had the most record sales. I just love thrash metal new and old lol

 

[tech21man]

It's just dumb kids ragging on the band, so who cares. I still love metallica and always will, despite their lack of creativity these days. Musicians get old and they inevitably lose that creative drive that once made them great. Happens to almost everyone, and we blame them for this...? They still put on a great show and probably still will until they are in their 60's...but they really should re-evaluate their tone a bit. James and Kirk are on a bit of a "more mids" kick these days.There's nothing wrong with scooping your tone if the outcome of it is a killer tone, and it still has enough cut to work in a mix. Same with boosting the mids, but it's really a very un-metal tone they have got in the last year or two.

Dumb kids? I'm 44 and had K.E.A. when it came out in '83. I watched them transform from the mightiest band in metal, into a calculated, commercial product. And Metallica didn't get "old" and lose their creative drive. They got rich, bloated and complacent. Most of those bands I mentioned above from Metallica's generation (Exodus, Machine Head, Overkill, Testament) are not only still creativity driven, but they're on top of their games. Love them all you want, that's cool and it's your right. Just like it's mine to hate them openly on a public forum.

Why hate on them, there is no reason for it?? They've released many good albums in the 80's so just be happy for those...RTL, MOP etc...

You compare them to machine head?? haha, ok, but Machine head have only one good album IMO. Overkill?? ok then... Why compare them to anyone? they are in a leaque of their own.

Being not hugely successful is not the same with being creativity driven. A handful of viagras wouldn't give Exodus overkill or testament their youth back.


Writing playing music isn't measured by how much stakato E notes or double bass is on a fucking song but most idiots seem to think so.

Oh, and as much as l like testament (well mostly skolnick) their last albums are not exactly the top of their game. And they manage to get the shittiest buzziest fizzy tone out of 5153 so congratulations. I had to measure the amount of food I ate so as not to throw up from the buzz and the dizzyness their tone gave me!


Metallica sold out, end of story. They still do. They sold out every gig since 83.

 

[stanbog]

It's just dumb kids ragging on the band, so who cares. I still love metallica and always will, despite their lack of creativity these days. Musicians get old and they inevitably lose that creative drive that once made them great. Happens to almost everyone, and we blame them for this...? They still put on a great show and probably still will until they are in their 60's...but they really should re-evaluate their tone a bit. James and Kirk are on a bit of a "more mids" kick these days.There's nothing wrong with scooping your tone if the outcome of it is a killer tone, and it still has enough cut to work in a mix. Same with boosting the mids, but it's really a very un-metal tone they have got in the last year or two.

Dumb kids? I'm 44 and had K.E.A. when it came out in '83. I watched them transform from the mightiest band in metal, into a calculated, commercial product. And Metallica didn't get "old" and lose their creative drive. They got rich, bloated and complacent. Most of those bands I mentioned above from Metallica's generation (Exodus, Machine Head, Overkill, Testament) are not only still creativity driven, but they're on top of their games. Love them all you want, that's cool and it's your right. Just like it's mine to hate them openly on a public forum.

This is very subjective (d'oh). If we take Testament as an example - I love everything they did up to and including "Low". After that... wasn't impressed. With the reunion I thought "Holly Jesus, I will be in Testament-heaven". Unfortunately their new material does nothing for me. Yes it's heavy, yes the chops are definitely there, but it doesn't get me. I prefer listening to Death Magnetic.

 

[thiswaythatway]

So does Trivium sound more like Metallica now than Metallica does?

 

[dsquared]

I will take the unpopular position and say I really like Death Magnetic, I like it more than any of their stuff since AJFA.

 

[BrentSSL]

I will take the unpopular position and say I really like Death Magnetic, I like it more than any of their stuff since AJFA.

I agree I do like everything after AJF but Death Magnetic should have been written After AJF or after the Black Album though I love that album very much and its what got me into Metallica and music. A decent 90's thrash record with the Load production quality accampanied with the vibe of Fuel would have been bad ass theres a reason people don't post dozens of videos covering those albums.


Trivium did sound like Metallica on thier 2006 album The Crusade when they attempted to resurect that version of thrash love Trivium but after the got that rummer and tried to sound more commercial they started to suck

 

[RJF]

I don't get why anyone would like Death Magnetic. It's a full on cheeseball thrash style that sounds like it was produced in a basement by a wellfare recipient high on his med weed. It sounds like a single mic set in the middle of the room with James wanking on some riffs he came up with the night before, singing his new weird style, with Lars in the background banging on his broken snare.

That's a long shot from the Bob Rock era of a terrific production of the Black Album where everything is spot on and perfect.

For some reason, the weird amateur thrash sound they have today on their new records, is the direction they choose to go. THe Craig Fergusen show was a perfect example. Many bitched about it, but to me it sounded much more like Jame's voice of the past (black album, Garage inc) where it seems he was his best vocally. He can clearly still sing well, he just chooses not to anymore, on records, for some reason.