Metallica Rig Rundown 2017 tour

[Viper]

Ya, not down with all the digital B.S. When i go to a steak house, i don't order a profiled, modeled F'in steak. I want the REAL thing Dammit!! All this sterile, lifeless, 1s and 0s stuff sucks!!! Fifteen years from now the landfills will be overflowing with this digital crap!!!

fucking

 

[riffsfordaze]

Hmmmm...... I give respect to Kirk for bringing his 1959 Les Paul Standard previously owned by Peter Green and Gary Moore on the road with Metallica (purchase price was reportedly $2,000,000). I don't think they are too worried about replacing a Boogie C++. Bottom line: if you dig their sound now more power to ya. Doesn't do jack shit for me! Hasn't for a long fucking time! ADA sucks a bag of dicks as well.
Nothing personal, just sayin.

BTW Thanks Viper! "I know that i'm not alone cause you hear it too, don't ya?!"

 

[riffsfordaze]

What would Cliff Burton do? RIP My guess is, he'd be wearin bell bottoms and a Misfits t shirt with the sleeves cut off and a jean jacket with long hair wavin his middle finger at all the flavor of the month atrocities he's seeing!
Kicking a Horse that's been DEAD for a long fucking time here! AW FUCK IT! "Fuck it all and fucking no regrets!" RIP

 

[jlb32]

What would Cliff Burton do? RIP My guess is, he'd be wearin bell bottoms and a Misfits t shirt with a jean jacket with long hair wavin his middle finger at all the flavor of the month atrocities he's seeing!
Kicking a Dead Horse here! AW FUCK IT! "Fuck it all and fucking no regrets!" RIP

My guess is Cliff would have changed with time and age just like Kirk, James and Lars have. Of course it is dead horse beating since we will never know. Just remember Cliff was the least "metal" of them all. He loved melodic, bluesy, classical, etc... music way more. He would have probably been into changing and experimenting music wise even more than Metallica has over the years.

The "Fuck it all and fucking no regrets" is funny. I've actually been listening to St. Anger here lately and liking it.

 

[riffsfordaze]

RIP Cliff & The REAL Metallifukinca

 

[jlb32]

RIP Cliff & The REAL Metallifukinca

Not sure your age but everyone changes with time. Thinking Cliff would have not changed if he were still alive is not realistic. The only musicians that have not changed with age are the ones that passed way to soon, like Cliff. RIP

 

[riffsfordaze]

I'm old, man! Old enough to see the writing that's been on the wall for a long time! Yes, Cliff would've changed i agree, that doesn't mean he would've joined The Flavor of the Month Club, quite the contrary i believe!
I just miss the REAL Metallica, that is all!

 

[skoora]

I actually imagine that with James and Lars pushing enough for a more polished streamlined approach to the material (around the pre Black era) Cliff would have left the band or at least pushed to have side projects. But James wouldn't have been able to shut down his "echo brain"

 

[riffsfordaze]

Zactly!

 

[TheWhiteShadow]

So all guitars are AxeFX and power is Matrix...I can see that. I'm sure the Deizels/Mesas/Fortins all sound killer, but James's tech made a great point about consistency and reliability in a big production. I don't think a single person in the audience would know the difference between a Digital/Solid State rig versus a tube rig in huge venues like that. A few guys like us might think we can tell and maybe could. Digital rigs and SS have come a long way in the last decade. But if I were touring the world on that kind of stage, I'd do the same thing and leave my tube amps at home/studio.

I can see that too but what about you and your performance? As in it should sound good to you too so you play your best, inspired by awesome tone. Not saying it can't be achieved this way, maybe have both?

 

[godgrinder]

I can see that too but what about you and your performance? As in it should sound good to you too so you play your best, inspired by awesome tone. Not saying it can't be achieved this way, maybe have both?

I'd guess they've been in autocruise mode for 20+ years when it comes to touring.

 

[BrentSSL]

I mean I think it's cool Hetfield uses live cabs to get into the music I don't think this is the death of guitar tone it's just the future. I'm a purest at heart but if my band had become a national touring act with as many hits as they have I'd be using Kempers or fractals.

 

[riffsfordaze]

Metallica is the Led Zeppelin of my generation! How would you people like it if Led Zeppelin had one last hurrah tour with Jason Bonham on drums, and God Forbid Jimmy Page's roadies talked him into playing through Kemper and Fractal bullshit?

Aw Fuck! I think i just threw up in my mouth! You boys Keep a Tight One Out There!

 

[stanbog]

I just miss the REAL Metallica, that is all!

Dude, I get your point, but the fact is: The real Metallica is what you see, what you're missing is the Metallica of your imagination.

 

[riffsfordaze]

Ok, I miss the REAL Metallica i remember through And Justice For All
Ah Fuck, i like the Black Album too! Burn me at the fucking stake and dance with the flames!

 

[riffsfordaze]

Aside from the digital/tube preamp/amp debate.....axefx rigs are just fuggin' boring.

LOL..yeah they're not as cool looking as old Marshall/Mesa heads & cabs with tubes glowing. I'm not gonna argue with that

This vid is current footage of their AxeFx tone that the whole stadium gets to hear night after night......you certainly can't tell me that's not good enough, plus with all the other added benefits/convenience/reliability that an all digital rig at the level of the Fractal stuff brings to the table.......99% of all folks couldn't tell this tone from any tube rig....& the 1% that thinks it can, doesn't matter to anyone for all intents & purposes

That was a cool vid. Nice to see different perspectives. So now that the guitar tone thing is just a child of the right presentation can we argue about Lars using snare drum replacement/supplementation live!! Not knocking his performance on this go round but damn, that snare. As much dynamics as the horizon of a salt flats

It's been great to hear James's voice sound good for a few years now.

Whatever the effect of the tone, then or now, I personally just wish I saw some remnant of THIS in the band that they are today,

I know bands evolve, change, adapt, etc. But, personally, this is the shit that made me fell like I could run right the fuck through a brick wall. Sadly, this doesn't feel, sound or look anything like what I saw this year at the Rose Bowl. Again, no hate. They are great. What they are, how they sound, today just doesn't do it for me anymore........

All just my opinion.......

You're right stanbog! The fact is that I must've imagined all of this along with legions of other rabid metal heads!

 

[BrentSSL]

Testament is using Kempers and I'm pretty sure Megadeth uses Fractals Metallica is just up to date with thier gear

 

[TheWhiteShadow]

I can see that too but what about you and your performance? As in it should sound good to you too so you play your best, inspired by awesome tone. Not saying it can't be achieved this way, maybe have both?

I'd guess they've been in autocruise mode for 20+ years when it comes to touring.

Good point.

 

[riffsfordaze]

Testament is using Kempers and I'm pretty sure Megadeth uses Fractals Metallica is just up to date with thier gear

Sadly you are correct, and the list goes on and on and on....
At certain points in sailing the seas of cheese in this life it just might be a good idea to Zig when others Zag. IMO

 

[riffsfordaze]

Clifford Lee Burton

February 10 1962 - September 27 1986

"CANNOT THE KINGDOM OF SALVATION TAKE ME HOME"

Thank you for being you! Thank you for your inspiration to trust what is deep inside of your soul and to Truly not give a Fuck what others think or say as long as you know you are following the path that is right for you! RIP