Metallica to perform all week long on Craig Ferguson

[jsp]

I think when I was at the age when this song came out I would have just been thrilled shitless that there was a metal band on TV instead of microanalysing the mix and guitar tone. Anybody still wonder why rock is dead?

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[anomaly]

"Fuel" sounded pretty good to me. I think Hetfield's voice is more suited to those load era songs these days.

 

[BrentSSL]

Hmmm okay so I'm going to say something and it might be really mean but I can't help but wonder if Metallica would have been better off breaking up in 2001/02 that way they wouldn't have been under the microscope of the Internet or the atrocity that is st anger and I do like that album but it's not a great Metallica record and we the would not have to see lars horrible choice to go with a skullet

 

[BrentSSL]

oh and in regards to Metallica their tone on kill'em all and ride the lightning is terrible and any time they are not using something that says Mesa on it thier tone does not sound good

 

[Blitzie]

Good to see them on television again. Surprised they played Hit the Lights, totally unsurprised they played Fuel. It would be cool if they could avoid playing "the hits" for the remainder of their residency but I'm sure they will.

 

[BrentSSL]

Good to see them on television again. Surprised they played Hit the Lights, totally unsurprised they played Fuel. It would be cool if they could avoid playing "the hits" for the remainder of their residency but I'm sure they will.

I agree and now feel I have said blasphemous things please delete my last 2 comments

 

[Tone Zone]

Yay! "For Whom the Bell Tolls" for the millionth time....nice. Let's see, from here I guess it'll be "King Nothing" tomorrow and "Enter Sandman" on Friday? They actually surprised me on Monday with "Hit the Lights", but I suppose the rest of the week is business as usual. *yawn*

 

[tech21man]

Love em and they did manage to get the axe-fx sounding good in many occasions. Here not so much but does it matter?

Hetfield's diezel era tone is beyond redemption for me. It sounds like a rubber band distorting in the bass and treble is congested. He does mix them with marks, but...I don't know what happened with his ears but I wish he just threw the vh4 out of the window. You can hear it really good on the through the never left channel for example on hit the lights. You can hear on the ola englund playthrough. The vh4 works great for some people but not exactly here! I didn't like it at all personally.

Try listening to metallica tone here...

what the fuck happened? It's not the downtuned thing, they are not that down (half step?)...

 

[mctallica1]

"Fuel" sounded pretty good to me. I think Hetfield's voice is more suited to those load era songs these days.

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[messenger]

I never really got the whole Lars bashing as far as his playing is concerned seems solid to me

 

[f550maranello2]

I dont know what you turd burglars are complaining about they sounded awesome.. Id like to see the ones that are complaining go on stage and play half as well..

 

[BrentSSL]

Love em and they did manage to get the axe-fx sounding good in many occasions. Here not so much but does it matter?

Hetfield's diezel era tone is beyond redemption for me. It sounds like a rubber band distorting in the bass and treble is congested. He does mix them with marks, but...I don't know what happened with his ears but I wish he just threw the vh4 out of the window. You can hear it really good on the through the never left channel for example on hit the lights. You can hear on the ola englund playthrough. The vh4 works great for some people but not exactly here! I didn't like it at all personally.

Try listening to metallica tone here...

what the fuck happened? It's not the downtuned thing, they are not that down (half step?)...

Can you post a better link nothing comes up with that one about throwing the VH4 out the window btw

I think when he started using the HETSET his tone took a turn for the worst they are buzzy and fizzy I had a set and eww combine that with the reborn dual and you are putting out a mating call for bees lol. I had some live Tallica sound board recordings I downloaded from 04 those are not terrible I think thats when he first switched to the VH4. The odd thing is he started using passives (probably super highend or boosted) he must not be hearling the loss of attack push and power or something. Maybe hes just messing with his tone for something new and being he's super busy guy with access to probably a thousand amplifiers/rack processers atleast so putting a decent tone together could be a process. I think his and Kirks tone sounded best from 95 to 2000 its unfortunate that St Anger gets shit on so hard because there are great riffs and some reallly great tones even though they are kind of darker compared to Garage Days INC and the tone on that first CD is awsome especially Mercyful Fate and the tone they used for I disapear kicked ass too

That all being said I really really love Metallica have nothing but respect and appreciation for them I play guitar because of them and I am that typical that says things like "if it was not for them and thier music I'd be dead dude" they really have pulled me out of some dark times I have all the albums dvds bootleg stuff and seeing them on my favorite late night talk show this week is awesome and proof that a higher power exists

 

[madrigal77]

Love em and they did manage to get the axe-fx sounding good in many occasions. Here not so much but does it matter?

Hetfield's diezel era tone is beyond redemption for me. It sounds like a rubber band distorting in the bass and treble is congested. He does mix them with marks, but...I don't know what happened with his ears but I wish he just threw the vh4 out of the window. You can hear it really good on the through the never left channel for example on hit the lights. You can hear on the ola englund playthrough. The vh4 works great for some people but not exactly here! I didn't like it at all personally.

Try listening to metallica tone here...

what the fuck happened? It's not the downtuned thing, they are not that down (half step?)...

Can you post a better link nothing comes up with that one about throwing the VH4 out the window btw

I think when he started using the HETSET his tone took a turn for the worst they are buzzy and fizzy I had a set and eww combine that with the reborn dual and you are putting out a mating call for bees lol. I had some live Tallica sound board recordings I downloaded from 04 those are not terrible I think thats when he first switched to the VH4. The odd thing is he started using passives (probably super highend or boosted) he must not be hearling the loss of attack push and power or something. Maybe hes just messing with his tone for something new and being he's super busy guy with access to probably a thousand amplifiers/rack processers atleast so putting a decent tone together could be a process. I think his and Kirks tone sounded best from 95 to 2000 its unfortunate that St Anger gets shit on so hard because there are great riffs and some reallly great tones even though they are kind of darker compared to Garage Days INC and the tone on that first CD is awsome especially Mercyful Fate and the tone they used for I disapear kicked ass too

That all being said I really really love Metallica have nothing but respect and appreciation for them I play guitar because of them and I am that typical that says things like "if it was not for them and thier music I'd be dead dude" they really have pulled me out of some dark times I have all the albums dvds bootleg stuff and seeing them on my favorite late night talk show this week is awesome and proof that a higher power exists

WTF are you talking about? The Het Set is super smooth compared the regular EMG's. They are no more "buzzy and fizzy" than any other high gain pickups. Also he'd been experimenting with passives long before he developed the Het Set; that's what inspired him to develop the Het Set in the first place. And he does use the Het Set still, probably 95% of the time, with the other 5% being the 81/60 and passives.

As far as his tone going to crap when he started using the Het Set, no, just no. It was when he started using the VH4. His straight Mesa tones were sooooooo much better. His VH4 tones are thin and buzzy sounding.

Also, there are these things called periods. They go at the ends of sentences.

 

[BrentSSL]

Love em and they did manage to get the axe-fx sounding good in many occasions. Here not so much but does it matter?

Hetfield's diezel era tone is beyond redemption for me. It sounds like a rubber band distorting in the bass and treble is congested. He does mix them with marks, but...I don't know what happened with his ears but I wish he just threw the vh4 out of the window. You can hear it really good on the through the never left channel for example on hit the lights. You can hear on the ola englund playthrough. The vh4 works great for some people but not exactly here! I didn't like it at all personally.

Try listening to metallica tone here...

what the fuck happened? It's not the downtuned thing, they are not that down (half step?)...

Can you post a better link nothing comes up with that one about throwing the VH4 out the window btw

I think when he started using the HETSET his tone took a turn for the worst they are buzzy and fizzy I had a set and eww combine that with the reborn dual and you are putting out a mating call for bees lol. I had some live Tallica sound board recordings I downloaded from 04 those are not terrible I think thats when he first switched to the VH4. The odd thing is he started using passives (probably super highend or boosted) he must not be hearling the loss of attack push and power or something. Maybe hes just messing with his tone for something new and being he's super busy guy with access to probably a thousand amplifiers/rack processers atleast so putting a decent tone together could be a process. I think his and Kirks tone sounded best from 95 to 2000 its unfortunate that St Anger gets shit on so hard because there are great riffs and some reallly great tones even though they are kind of darker compared to Garage Days INC and the tone on that first CD is awsome especially Mercyful Fate and the tone they used for I disapear kicked ass too

That all being said I really really love Metallica have nothing but respect and appreciation for them I play guitar because of them and I am that typical that says things like "if it was not for them and thier music I'd be dead dude" they really have pulled me out of some dark times I have all the albums dvds bootleg stuff and seeing them on my favorite late night talk show this week is awesome and proof that a higher power exists

WTF are you talking about? The Het Set is super smooth compared the regular EMG's. They are no more "buzzy and fizzy" than any other high gain pickups. Also he'd been experimenting with passives long before he developed the Het Set; that's what inspired him to develop the Het Set in the first place. And he does use the Het Set still, probably 95% of the time, with the other 5% being the 81/60 and passives.

As far as his tone going to crap when he started using the Het Set, no, just no. It was when he started using the VH4. His straight Mesa tones were sooooooo much better. His VH4 tones are thin and buzzy sounding.

Also, there are these things called periods. They go at the ends of sentences.

Please provide me with evidence to back up that opinion Because the Het Set I bought when they first came out (like I was on a waiting list) sounded like buzzy fizz poop when I bought them check out Fluffs Comparison vids he got his around the same time. Or listen to the BIG FOUR stuff pre and post him getting those pickups his tones buzzy its the HETSET. As for the VH4 I agree with you especially the 30th anniversary show when I am pretty sure he was not using the VH4 at all and it sounds awesome. As for tonight i just watched them and Enter Sandman Sounded pretty freakin steller

 

[tech21man]

Love em and they did manage to get the axe-fx sounding good in many occasions. Here not so much but does it matter?

Hetfield's diezel era tone is beyond redemption for me. It sounds like a rubber band distorting in the bass and treble is congested. He does mix them with marks, but...I don't know what happened with his ears but I wish he just threw the vh4 out of the window. You can hear it really good on the through the never left channel for example on hit the lights. You can hear on the ola englund playthrough. The vh4 works great for some people but not exactly here! I didn't like it at all personally.

Try listening to metallica tone here...

what the fuck happened? It's not the downtuned thing, they are not that down (half step?)...

Can you post a better link nothing comes up with that one about throwing the VH4 out the window btw

I think when he started using the HETSET his tone took a turn for the worst they are buzzy and fizzy I had a set and eww combine that with the reborn dual and you are putting out a mating call for bees lol. I had some live Tallica sound board recordings I downloaded from 04 those are not terrible I think thats when he first switched to the VH4. The odd thing is he started using passives (probably super highend or boosted) he must not be hearling the loss of attack push and power or something. Maybe hes just messing with his tone for something new and being he's super busy guy with access to probably a thousand amplifiers/rack processers atleast so putting a decent tone together could be a process. I think his and Kirks tone sounded best from 95 to 2000 its unfortunate that St Anger gets shit on so hard because there are great riffs and some reallly great tones even though they are kind of darker compared to Garage Days INC and the tone on that first CD is awsome especially Mercyful Fate and the tone they used for I disapear kicked ass too

That all being said I really really love Metallica have nothing but respect and appreciation for them I play guitar because of them and I am that typical that says things like "if it was not for them and thier music I'd be dead dude" they really have pulled me out of some dark times I have all the albums dvds bootleg stuff and seeing them on my favorite late night talk show this week is awesome and proof that a higher power exists

I tried everything to embed and it didn't work. It's donington for whom the bell tolls '91.

I don't know about the het set because you can actually hear the rubber band thing on older recordings too. When I first saw them live in europe with mesa rigs it was amazing.

I love them too and also have very old and new live material (way before they started releasing each show on live). But it's also the fact I don't really like personally the VH4 anyway, same stuff gets on my nerves on ola englund's video. That and the hagen seem like shit tone to me. That said, can't fault the quality and execution of those amps and I like the einstein, d-moll and herbert quite a bit.



The 30th anniversary despite the truck of amps on stage was done with the regular-then analog rigs with the vh4-triaxis combo by the way. Hammett had the recto/randall MTS hammett rig before the fortin stuff.

 

[anomaly]

Don't blame his tone on the Hetset pickups, Hammett still uses the emg 81 and his tone is certainly no better. Those het set pickups are great, well balanced, and similar to 81's but with more low end punch and clarity, they basically have all the good qualities of an 81 with none of the bad. Hetfield just has a very different approach to his tone these days. LOTS of mids, and more of a rock tone than a metal tone. Not like the more mid scooped Mesa Mark tones of the late 80's to early 90's that most people associate with Metallica.

 

[JerEvil]

I never really got the whole Lars bashing as far as his playing is concerned seems solid to me

Man his timing felt all over the place on that vid of "Fuel".

Made me wonder if Het could play along with someone like Portnoy after playing with Lars for so long.

 

[thegame]

Hetfield just has a very different approach to his tone these days. LOTS of mids, and more of a rock tone than a metal tone.

Trouble is, that is not even a good rock tone. If you take the absolute most common, proven, basic 'rock' setup, like an LP into almost any Marshall, then into, again, almost any Marshall cabinet, I bet he'd have a superior tone compared to the floppy rubber band mush his tone has deteriorated into. Metallica really know how to over complicate things

 

[jlb32]

Makes you wonder if their sound guy is becoming tone deaf also after all these years. They have experimented with their sound a lot the last 10 years. I personally am not a fan of it. They have lost that massive wall of guitar tone they use to have.

Overall not bad performances IMO they just really need to rethink what they are doing tonally.

 

[eco70777]

Sounding good on TV is a rarity. Not many bands have sounded incredible on late night talk shows.

watch wilco te song is art of almost.

or a very old one, oingo boingo on tv, dead man's party.

By the way the only arse who plays drums as awfully as this guy is the other arse in Bon Jovi, Tico Torres, oh Lord.