my brain hurts, reading recording hardware info sucks...

[cyndicate]

On a side note that is maybe on topic, I've been doodling around with my recent setup, how does anyone get good recorded tone at "bedroom" volumes, I tried it with my Mark IV and it sounded like complete crap, or maybe that was my playing.. any tricks to get good recorded tone at decent volumes?

In my opinion, you don't. Some amps are better at low volumes than others, but most speakers need a good workout to get them sounding good. I've been recording scratch guitar tracks for a project, at low volumes, and the tones are NOWHERE near the quality of turning that same amp up for tracking.

Unfortunately, there's no getting around the volume, in my opinion of course.

Thats what I thought, but I see some clips sometimes where people say it was recorded at "bedroom" volumes, I guess my definition and theirs must be different When I put my Mark IV to 3 on master and 3 for Lead Volume in Tweed Mode it already feels like the whole garage is shaking in my town house

Maybe I will try building one of those DIY Isolation Boxes for my 2x12 Recto cab

 

[OneArmedScissor]

"Unchallenge" accepted. You're right, I don't think I've ever shown anyone anything here that wasn't a joke. Most of my older stuff is on my friend's computer and no longer to be found anywhere on the internets, but much of it's pretty electronic and no one here would have been interested.

But, as luck would have it, I actually have something I did everything on myself that I will be able to put up either tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Bob Savage]

Maybe I will try building one of those DIY Isolation Boxes for my 2x12 Recto cab

That's definitely a decent option.

 

[Code001]

Maybe I will try building one of those DIY Isolation Boxes for my 2x12 Recto cab

http://www.daveweiner.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 3fb0aef7c7

 

[Shiny_Surface]

This thread rules

 

[defpearlpilot]

He potentially has a point. I know you can get Macbook Pros with 7200 RPM hard drives, but it costs a lot, and even when I've been to the Apple stores, I've never seen one sitting out advertised with anything above 5400 RPM, even if it was $3,000. So I obviously don't know that yours is 5400 RPM, but I'd have to guess that it is.

My friend's laptop is almost identical to my old 1GB RAM Athlon 64 3000+ computer, but he has a faster version of the processor, and, like almost all laptops, a 5400 RPM hard drive. It always ran MUCH worse, quickly reaching the point of becoming intolerable, when you tried to do anything complex with it. I'd have to blame the 5400 RPM hard drive. I've never used anything less than 7200 RPM with a PC, and I've never had issues with track counts and recording.

No he doesn't. Why? Because anyone that has been recording for a decent period of time records to a dedicated audio drive to minimize latency. My system drive is separate.. even on my MacPro.

As far as your personal experience, perhaps you have magical computers. I definitely think that your experience is unique. Latency is probably one of the most common topics on recording forums.

Out of curiosity, what are your projects like? Are they mostly audio tracks or sequenced/sampled stuff?

 

[Code001]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=411776

 

[cyndicate]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=411776

 

[-=MYK=-]

Is there a reason why I'm in your sig? Last time I checked, SSL Servers and music hosting across forwarded ports where other computers could connect to were considered servers.

Um, I run a server.... Multiple ones to be exact.

 

[Code001]

Is there a reason why I'm in your sig? Last time I checked, SSL Servers and music hosting across forwarded ports where other computers could connect to were considered servers.

Um, I run a server.... Multiple ones to be exact.

I don't get it. It's kinda like making fun of me for playing Ibanez guitars and Mesa amps.... Maybe you need to spell it out for me to get the joke?

 

[chalnger86]

Is there a reason why I'm in your sig? Last time I checked, SSL Servers and music hosting across forwarded ports where other computers could connect to were considered servers.

Um, I run a server.... Multiple ones to be exact.

Unless I'm missing it too, maybe tis will help...

Um, I run A server... MULTIPLE ones to be exact.

Maybe i'm just really tired.
............
And about this whole over paying for Mac Pros...I happen to do some video editing and animation as well as Post for video. Is anyone going to tell me that the new Mac Pro is too much for those tasks? The animation program alone would work about a thousand times faster and allow rendering along side other programs. Audio isn't the only thing Mac's are used for. Again, maybe I'm crazy..or tired, but I think I may have a valid point.

 

[Code001]

Unless I'm missing it too, maybe tis will help...

Um, I run A server... MULTIPLE ones to be exact.

I have a G4 MDD Dual 1.25 GHz running a music server and FTP, and a G5 1.5 GHz running an SSL tunnel and WAP. I would count those 2 machines that do different things different servers. I don't see how you can consider them the same, even if they're on the same trunk. I don't have them racked because I don't want to deal with the heat issues. My G4 already gets average temps of ~52C during idle.

 

[chalnger86]

Meant nothing by it Code! just trying to make sense of everything in this thread. I will agree that you're running multiple servers. It's just that you're running multiple servers and not A server. I guess. Thats all. I'd pay 26,220.95 for a loaded Mac Pro so I know that I won't have to worry about anything and could do about anything I would EVER need to do probably ten times at the same time, but it's nice to have that piece of mind. Opens lots of possibilities. Just my 2 cents.

Not to mention that I'm a little biased towards Mac and absolutely DESPISE anything Microsoft. I hate the extra bullshit you have to worry about with their products. I know Macs aren't 100% safe, but nothing is or ever will be, so given that Mac is one of the safest. Not sure about Linux or UNIX, but since OSX is based on UNIX and Linux is still a geek-friendly OS, I'd feel good about the security of those platforms too.

 

[Code001]

Meant nothing by it Code! just trying to make sense of everything in this thread. I will agree that you're running multiple servers. It's just that you're running multiple servers and not A server. I guess. Thats all. I'd pay 26,220.95 for a loaded Mac Pro so I know that I won't have to worry about anything and could do about anything I would EVER need to do probably ten times at the same time, but it's nice to have that piece of mind. Opens lots of possibilities. Just my 2 cents.

Not to mention that I'm a little biased towards Mac and absolutely DESPISE anything Microsoft. I hate the extra bullshit you have to worry about with their products. I know Macs aren't 100% safe, but nothing is or ever will be, so given that Mac is one of the safest. Not sure about Linux or UNIX, but since OSX is based on UNIX and Linux is still a geek-friendly OS, I'd feel good about the security of those platforms too.

I wasn't getting on your case, man. I'm just working on getting MYK's humor. Tomorrow is when I order my new Mac Pro. Hopefully I can start phasing out these old machines I currently run. I just got Logic Studio 8, Maya, and Final Cut Express to run again. I haven't used those programs in a long time so hopefully I can get back into 3D design and video editing like I used to do. Scrapping my GarageBand in favor of Logic would be nice, too. I threw out my PC a few days ago so I'm currently running only OS X and Linux machines. I'll be tri-booting with the new machine in an attempt to make it my #1 go-to comp.

 

[chalnger86]

Hey man, it's cool. I was only trying to help you get his humor. I started using Maya 8 and so far I'm having a time getting used to it's tools and interface since switching from Blender. I still like Blender, but I think there's more options with Maya. I'll still stick with PT for audio though. I love tat program. wish I could afford an HD system...at least that would force me to get a Mac Pro! I also run an engineering program called Pro/Engineer. I tried running it on Virtual PC, but my 1GHz PowerBook G4 Titanium with 512 MB Ram and 60GB hard drive couldn't handle it once I started to assemble the project. So, unfortunately, until I can get a MacBook Pro or otherwise, I'll have to stick with my Windows machine a bit longer.

 

[Code001]

Hey man, it's cool. I was only trying to help you get his humor. I started using Maya 8 and so far I'm having a time getting used to it's tools and interface since switching from Blender. I still like Blender, but I think there's more options with Maya. I'll still stick with PT for audio though. I love tat program. wish I could afford an HD system...at least that would force me to get a Mac Pro! I also run an engineering program called Pro/Engineer. I tried running it on Virtual PC, but my 1GHz PowerBook G4 Titanium with 512 MB Ram and 60GB hard drive couldn't handle it once I started to assemble the project. So, unfortunately, until I can get a MacBook Pro or otherwise, I'll have to stick with my Windows machine a bit longer.

I really want to get PT, but that means I'd have to get some sort of PT interface. I currently only run a little Presonus Firebox. It works for me because I only need to record maybe two tracks at once. I know there's the Mbox 2, but I question whether or not it's really worth it to switch. Also, I wouldn't run VPC even on my current comp which has 1.75 gigs of ram. It's just such an awful program that I don't see how anyone could ever use it.

 

[Anonymous]

Considering the computers are basically servers, it has everything to do with it.

Airplanes are transportation. That's not what we ride on to go to the grocery store, though.

I'm not discounting that it has application there. That's just not what anyone was talking about.

I dont think anything calls for the crazy CPU processing power available today. So the reason people get it because they can Im running a QX6850 overclocked to 3.6ghz and I don't do anything with it that calls for it

That's what I was getting at, but some people seem to think that it's necessary for some reason, and they very well could be spending $1,000+ more than they need to, to no benefit.

Even if I were to go nucking futs and buy the highest end Mac, I think I'd just get the Core 2 Extreme iMac. You get a 24" monitor for $500 less than the dual processor Mac Pro by itself. I think you'd be very hard pressed to see a real difference in performance.

I need PCI-e slots for Symphony. Thus, if I want a Mac, I need a Mac Pro. I don't want a laptop...

Steve

 

[defpearlpilot]

I need PCI-e slots for Symphony. Thus, if I want a Mac, I need a Mac Pro. I don't want a laptop...

Steve

Symphony has ExpressCards too! That system has very impressive specs!!

 

[Anonymous]

You guys are pretty much telling me that what I see with my own eyes, and you don't, is wrong, despite my experience being the same over the years with multiple, drastically different, setups. That doesn't begin to make sense.

I guess you've got it all figured out.

By the way, I don't think I've heard any music from you. Don't confuse this comment with a challenge of any sort, but with your years of experience I'm interested in hearing your work.

Bob is challenging you to a duel! Beware.. Bob brings the pain

On a side note that is maybe on topic, I've been doodling around with my recent setup, how does anyone get good recorded tone at "bedroom" volumes, I tried it with my Mark IV and it sounded like complete crap, or maybe that was my playing.. any tricks to get good recorded tone at decent volumes?

The last clip I posted here was recorded at bedroom volume with my Mark IV. People thought it sounded really good. I don't know of any tricks but a REALLY good mic pre. I use a Great Rivers Electronics MP-2NV. I just stuck an SM57 in front of the speaker and that was it. Also, don't max the recording level. For awhile, I was trying to get really hot signals and this never sounded as good as lower signals do...

Steve

 

[chalnger86]

Hey man, it's cool. I was only trying to help you get his humor. I started using Maya 8 and so far I'm having a time getting used to it's tools and interface since switching from Blender. I still like Blender, but I think there's more options with Maya. I'll still stick with PT for audio though. I love tat program. wish I could afford an HD system...at least that would force me to get a Mac Pro! I also run an engineering program called Pro/Engineer. I tried running it on Virtual PC, but my 1GHz PowerBook G4 Titanium with 512 MB Ram and 60GB hard drive couldn't handle it once I started to assemble the project. So, unfortunately, until I can get a MacBook Pro or otherwise, I'll have to stick with my Windows machine a bit longer.

I really want to get PT, but that means I'd have to get some sort of PT interface. I currently only run a little Presonus Firebox. It works for me because I only need to record maybe two tracks at once. I know there's the Mbox 2, but I question whether or not it's really worth it to switch.

I think you can use your Fire Box as additional inputs to an 002 or 003f I'm not mistaken. I use the MBox2 and I am very happy with it. Unless you're recording live shows and want the individual track count, When would you ever be recording more than 4 or 6 inputs at a time? But it's your call.. just making conversation.

Also, I wouldn't run VPC even on my current comp which has 1.75 gigs of ram. It's just such an awful program that I don't see how anyone could ever use it.

I have VPC6 cuz at the time it's all I knoew of that would run Windows on a Mac. You're right. It was such a PITA that I eventually broke down and built a better Windows machine that cost about the same as the program! Well, not really, but it was/is cheap. And you can tell. I'll never use VPC again. Not to mention that Microsoft stopped developing it a long time ago....probably because they realized that it was crap too.