Need help/advice regarding a deal transaction gone south..

[bsp01]

Oh yeah paypal makes money of your 3% in the Camen Islands at about 3 million a week or more so dont think they are on your side do your homework..
Especially when you get a "We were unable to retrieve funds from the other persons acct..Sorry..
But Paypal has decided in your favor of the 3450.00 dispute.
Tanx for using Paypal".
3% is a fee for service not protection....

^^ word!

Happened to me.. ruled in my favor, but could not get the money from the other party. Basically, if they take the money out or spend it before Paypal tries to get it, its gone.

Thankfully, my credit card had no problem busting paypal and doing a chargeback. Never use paypal unless it's via your credit card.

 

[SuperStratSlinger]

I don't care what the guy says - he scammed you. If by chance the amp actually did get stolen (I highly doubt it because of his not filing a police report, unless he had some other reason that he didn't want police attention, if you catch my drift), that's not your problem. He should pay you back immediately, whether he has to beg, borrow, or steal it. Again, not your problem.

"$100-200/week" means $100/week if you're lucky. You trust this guy who can't pay his real bills to pay YOU back long-term?

I'd start with a call to his local police department and explain that he stole $2650 from you and go from there.

+10000

x20000

Sucks to hear you got dicked man, really. I've been screwed over but not for $2600. That really sucks. And yeah, paypal sucks and is a hassle to go through. PP doesn't give a crap about the safety of your funds but you DO get the seller's info. I don't like using Gearpage now because of the membership fees but at least if you shop around there you know you have a lesser chance of getting dicked, much moreso than the zoo that is known as HC.

What sucks is that you have to factor in the amount of TIME you've lost calling around, and posting on forums etc all while worrying about your $$$.

 

[cyndicate]

It's been awhile since I updated this, I contacted the local police a long time ago and they are "supposedly" looking into it and then forwarding it to Geneva police, but I have yet to see anything being done. I filed a report on IC3 when this first happened and that hasn't really done anything. No wonder there are so many scammers, at this rate people would think they are pretty much free to do what they want.

Also in regards to the seller, he still responds but he has yet to pay me back anything else. It's always "this friday" and it's been a month since I last saw payment. So far I recovered the $1000 deposit that was sent online, and $200 from him sending me it, but I am still out $1450.

Even when you have all the information on him, including his real name/address, that is pretty much all the work needed to be done for the police already and they still haven't done anything. I guess next step for me is small claims court, but what a big pain in the ass that is going to be.

So to anyone else out there buying and selling, NEVER put your gaurd down, be careful even if you are on a good streak. It only took me 5 or so years and a few hundred transactions later to get fucked over I can only hope to recover my money and hope justice is served in the end, but as of now its not looking so great

 

[Anonymous]

It's been awhile since I updated this, I contacted the local police a long time ago and they are "supposedly" looking into it and then forwarding it to Geneva police, but I have yet to see anything being done. I filed a report on IC3 when this first happened and that hasn't really done anything. No wonder there are so many scammers, at this rate people would think they are pretty much free to do what they want.

Also in regards to the seller, he still responds but he has yet to pay me back anything else. It's always "this friday" and it's been a month since I last saw payment. So far I recovered the $1000 deposit that was sent online, and $200 from him sending me it, but I am still out $1450.

Even when you have all the information on him, including his real name/address, that is pretty much all the work needed to be done for the police already and they still haven't done anything. I guess next step for me is small claims court, but what a big pain in the ass that is going to be.

So to anyone else out there buying and selling, NEVER put your gaurd down, be careful even if you are on a good streak. It only took me 5 or so years and a few hundred transactions later to get fucked over I can only hope to recover my money and hope justice is served in the end, but as of now its not looking so great

Honestly, I can't believe this hasn't happened to me yet... This just sucks so bad man - I really feel for you on this bro...

Steve

 

[MARK1970]

It's been awhile since I updated this, I contacted the local police a long time ago and they are "supposedly" looking into it and then forwarding it to Geneva police, but I have yet to see anything being done. I filed a report on IC3 when this first happened and that hasn't really done anything. No wonder there are so many scammers, at this rate people would think they are pretty much free to do what they want.

Also in regards to the seller, he still responds but he has yet to pay me back anything else. It's always "this friday" and it's been a month since I last saw payment. So far I recovered the $1000 deposit that was sent online, and $200 from him sending me it, but I am still out $1450.

Even when you have all the information on him, including his real name/address, that is pretty much all the work needed to be done for the police already and they still haven't done anything. I guess next step for me is small claims court, but what a big pain in the ass that is going to be.

So to anyone else out there buying and selling, NEVER put your gaurd down, be careful even if you are on a good streak. It only took me 5 or so years and a few hundred transactions later to get fucked over I can only hope to recover my money and hope justice is served in the end, but as of now its not looking so great

Maybe one of our NY Rig Talker can serve this mother F%#@^.

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

Getting screwed over for that amount of Money I would have driven or took a flight just to bust his ass..

A forum I am on one of the members in Jersey screwed another member over from across the country, That member gave us Jersey people his address and we drove by taking pictures of his house and ect.
When the member that got screwed over sent those photo's to that member he almost shit his pants...
And he got his money back..

 

[Crunch Master]

Getting screwed over for that amount of Money I would have driven or took a flight just to bust his ass..

A forum I am on one of the members in Jersey screwed another member over from across the country, That member gave us Jersey people his address and we drove by taking pictures of his house and ect.
When the member that got screwed over sent those photo's to that member he almost shit his pants...
And he got his money back..

+1

 

[glpg80]

IMO i think some NY rig talkers need to get together.

or

for $1,450 - id be taking a fucking plane ticket to see this guy face to face. nothing like a little motivation to speed the process out.

just because you hide through the internet doesnt mean your ass is 100% invisible.

again, for that amount of cash, i would be making plans to go to his house. i would also be making plans to make him turn himself in and get this shit fixed properly and not through half assed payment schemes.

 

[cyndicate]

After bugging the local police department to forward it to new York I finally got them to. Now I need to keep bugging the police in new York about it, I guess if u want something done you got to bug the living shit out of em

 

[SeaDog]

After bugging the local police department to forward it to new York I finally got them to. Now I need to keep bugging the police in new York about it, I guess if u want something done you got to bug the living shit out of em

Cyndicate, did you try calling the NY police yourself? This exact thing happened to my wife with a large tupperware sale and we called the police in the town where the person lived. The cops went right to her house and told her if she didn't pay the money back they were going to arrest her for a criminal complaint. Apparently, the women was selling stuff and just not send it to a lot of people. My wife started a thread on the tupperware forum and about twenty people got money back. Your right that it's easy for these people to get away with it, in our case only the people that actually called the police got money back and according to the thread it appeared that more than 40 people were scammed.

In my opinion, his response to you calling the police shows he's full of crap, as well as stupid. I mean give me a break, NY doesn't have any laws against theft? What a tool.

SeaDog

 

[ke2]

Sucks donkey ass. I hope this gets resolved asap, man.
I bumped the thread on HC as well.

 

[just42dave]

Getting screwed over for that amount of Money I would have driven or took a flight just to bust his ass..

A forum I am on one of the members in Jersey screwed another member over from across the country, That member gave us Jersey people his address and we drove by taking pictures of his house and ect.
When the member that got screwed over sent those photo's to that member he almost shit his pants...
And he got his money back..

hahahahahahahaha

 

[bds9487]

I've started using escrow.com for internet deals. You send the money to them and the seller doesn't get it until you've verified delivery of the item. Once verified, escrow.com sends the money to the seller.

 

[tweed]

I find it ridiculous that the police are so lackadaisical. Even when you can provide them with ALL of the details that will make their job easier. Heck, a simple phone call from the police to the criminal may end the situation. I was ripped of $4800 from a contractor this year. I actually found out that he is being prosecuted in NJ for ripping off several other people. When we contacted the prosecutor, he literally said, "what do you want me to do?" We said, we want to be involved and provide evidence against him. The prosecutor declined??? He said go file charges with out local prosecutor.

WTF?

I wonder if you can file a big ass complaint against that prosecutor?

 

[cyndicate]

After bugging the local police department to forward it to new York I finally got them to. Now I need to keep bugging the police in new York about it, I guess if u want something done you got to bug the living shit out of em

Cyndicate, did you try calling the NY police yourself? This exact thing happened to my wife with a large tupperware sale and we called the police in the town where the person lived. The cops went right to her house and told her if she didn't pay the money back they were going to arrest her for a criminal complaint. Apparently, the women was selling stuff and just not send it to a lot of people. My wife started a thread on the tupperware forum and about twenty people got money back. Your right that it's easy for these people to get away with it, in our case only the people that actually called the police got money back and according to the thread it appeared that more than 40 people were scammed.

In my opinion, his response to you calling the police shows he's full of crap, as well as stupid. I mean give me a break, NY doesn't have any laws against theft? What a tool.

SeaDog

Yeah, that was the first thing I did. I called Geneva police and they said they can't move forward until they get some kind of paperwork from my local police department or IC3, which is why I've been bugging my local police department for the past month until they finally got it over to someone in NY. Now I need to make sure the police in NY are doing something about it.

 

[cyndicate]

I find it ridiculous that the police are so lackadaisical. Even when you can provide them with ALL of the details that will make their job easier. Heck, a simple phone call from the police to the criminal may end the situation. I was ripped of $4800 from a contractor this year. I actually found out that he is being prosecuted in NJ for ripping off several other people. When we contacted the prosecutor, he literally said, "what do you want me to do?" We said, we want to be involved and provide evidence against him. The prosecutor declined??? He said go file charges with out local prosecutor.

WTF?

I wonder if you can file a big ass complaint against that prosecutor?

It is all about time.

The weird thing is that there was a TV news "on your side" story about the guy ripping off 2 elderly people for $100,000's. I was referred to him by my brother and he did excellent work??? I have been nice to the guy since he still answers the phone and "says" he is sending money. He did pay us $2,000 in June. I dont want to totally piss him off and never get anything. As it stands, I still have a communication line open... It just sucks since I could be playing a really nice $4,800 amp or guitar Either way, The police have been NO help. The county prosecutor really didnt seem to care.

Damn that sucks!

This is what scares me, if they aren't doing anything about $4,800, I would think they would care less about the $1450 I am out

 

[rupe]

Wow...I just read this thread...what a bunch of $hit!!!

You may be beyond filing criminal charges since you accepted money from him. I had a girlfriend back in the late 90's who applied for multiple credit cards in my name and maxed them all out to the tune of over $30K. We lived together and she always got the mail so I never even saw any of the bills come in. Once we split up and I start getting my own mail I was floored when I saw what I "owed". She apologized profusely and promised to pay them off...like an idiot I agreed to a payment plan. Long story short, she kept up payment for about 4 months and then broke off contact. When I went to the police they told me that I was SOL because I agreed to let her make payments...I would have had to have turned her in immediately for criminal charges to be levied, and at that point all I could do is file civil charges. Even if you win a civil case, it can be next to impossible to actually collect on it (ask Fred Goldman )

Hopefully this won't apply to you but I thought I should mention it. Best of luck!!!

 

[cyndicate]

Wow...I just read this thread...what a bunch of $hit!!!

You may be beyond filing criminal charges since you accepted money from him. I had a girlfriend back in the late 90's who applied for multiple credit cards in my name and maxed them all out to the tune of over $30K. We lived together and she always got the mail so I never even saw any of the bills come in. Once we split up and I start getting my own mail I was floored when I saw what I "owed". She apologized profusely and promised to pay them off...like an idiot I agreed to a payment plan. Long story short, she kept up payment for about 4 months and then broke off contact. When I went to the police they told me that I was SOL because I agreed to let her make payments...I would have had to have turned her in immediately for criminal charges to be levied, and at that point all I could do is file civil charges. Even if you win a civil case, it can be next to impossible to actually collect on it (ask Fred Goldman )

Hopefully this won't apply to you but I thought I should mention it. Best of luck!!!

Yeah I heard someone say something similar since I took the first payment already.. It's like lose all your money or try to recover "some" losses, kind of a lose lose situation

 

[cyndicate]

wtf is this.. I haven't seen a single payment since the first time and it looks like hes already buying new shit with the money he stole from me.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthr ... er=1379615

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

What do you expect He Fucked you over..