Riffraff
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This was originally supposed to be a fix & flip project but mojo happened. 
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harddriver
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WOW... That sounds awesome.....
I'd like to hear that with some AIC riffs and a Bk Butler tube driver up front to confirm or deny the internet lore about the most of the tracks on the first two AIC were a Bassman.
I'd like to hear that with some AIC riffs and a Bk Butler tube driver up front to confirm or deny the internet lore about the most of the tracks on the first two AIC were a Bassman.
Riffraff
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Interesting. I might give that a go after I get a PS100. The Mass100 I'm using it with is a little undersized for the job so I'm not pushing it very hard right now.
Kidkramer71
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I have a modded bassman from the late 60' or early 70's .
Riffraff
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That's badass bro!
dstroud
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dude that sounds freaking amazing!!!
dstroud
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wow that sounds killer as well!! jeez who knew!!! I might need a Bassman!!!
Riffraff
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Thanks man, it sure surprised me.
When I picked this up I looked for info on the web about modifying it and everything I read covering Bassman mods would note "except the ultralinear models" so I had zero expectations for this amp and let it sit in pieces for more than a year before I even considered fixing it. Everything I read only mentioned that they made good pedals platforms which I could give 2 shits about so even after I fixed it I didn't bother pushing it they way I would a regular amp. I just slapped an amp in box a pedal in front of it and hoped to get more from the pedal than I did with other amps. When that didn't happen I shoved it in the closet and thought here's another for the sell pile.
I was messing around with a few recording ideas recently and wanted to try something different than the rack preamps I usually use. I thought I would experiment with pushing one of the amps I don't use often hard under full attenuation and run a line out into my interface. I've done that with a couple of small amps and a few have really surprised me while others I expected good things from fell flat. I had no expectations that this one would be good when I pulled it out of the closet to try. Honestly I was thinking here comes the final confirmation that this goes in the sell pile while I was hooking it up.
That first little blues part at 0:30 in the video was the recording I made then. It sounded okay through the monitors while I was playing it but it was 5 am in the morning so I had the monitors really low and couldn't really hear what it sounded like until I played it back. Talk about a
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When I picked this up I looked for info on the web about modifying it and everything I read covering Bassman mods would note "except the ultralinear models" so I had zero expectations for this amp and let it sit in pieces for more than a year before I even considered fixing it. Everything I read only mentioned that they made good pedals platforms which I could give 2 shits about so even after I fixed it I didn't bother pushing it they way I would a regular amp. I just slapped an amp in box a pedal in front of it and hoped to get more from the pedal than I did with other amps. When that didn't happen I shoved it in the closet and thought here's another for the sell pile.
I was messing around with a few recording ideas recently and wanted to try something different than the rack preamps I usually use. I thought I would experiment with pushing one of the amps I don't use often hard under full attenuation and run a line out into my interface. I've done that with a couple of small amps and a few have really surprised me while others I expected good things from fell flat. I had no expectations that this one would be good when I pulled it out of the closet to try. Honestly I was thinking here comes the final confirmation that this goes in the sell pile while I was hooking it up.
That first little blues part at 0:30 in the video was the recording I made then. It sounded okay through the monitors while I was playing it but it was 5 am in the morning so I had the monitors really low and couldn't really hear what it sounded like until I played it back. Talk about a
thenine
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Fantastic!
That was a TUbe Screamer into the dirty channel ? Sounded great - really expressive and breathing. Nice job.
That was a TUbe Screamer into the dirty channel ? Sounded great - really expressive and breathing. Nice job.
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Racerxrated
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Yep, the engineer confirmed long ago that the Rhythm tracks were mostly blackface Bassman with a modded Butler tube driver, from the mid 80s. Through a Greenback cab. But…..
If you take a listen to “We Die Young” demo, he used a Randall RG and the tone sounds very very close to the Facelift recording. Maybe his guitar/pickups were really the secret sauce?
Either way, I had a 66 Bassman and with a few pedals you can get that dark, angry low mid growl to come out.
Nice playing OP! Even with the jacked prices a vintage Bassman might be the best bang for the buck out there.
Riffraff
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Tube screamer into the normal channel.
Amp: Vol 6, Treb 8.5, Bass 5, MV 6, Bright SW: off
Route 66: Drive: 7, Tone 7, Vol: 7, Bass boost off & Compressor side off
The guitar is pictured: MIM Ash Tele with a maple neck & fingerboard. All stock except for a Kent Armstrong Chaos humbucker in the bridge slot.
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Devin
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Check out this vintage Blackface Bassman we had at my ampfest in 2013. I dunno if this thing was modded or not but it had a pissload of gain
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Racerxrated
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Killer! You can really hear that low mid growl on those lower register chords..if We Die Young starts on that amp, it’ll be damn close to Facelift, imo
311boogieman
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This was originally supposed to be a fix & flip project but mojo happened.
Sounds Stellar! Congrats
I had almost that exact amp in my possession for a bit helping a friend fix for a flip and he ended up not flipping it either
Beyond Black
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My God, both those clips sound stellar. My buddy has a Bassman that I can borrow, I think it’s time I took him up on that.
thenine
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harddriver
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Is that straight in? If it is... that's modded.....they are not that hard to mod to Marshall specs. Hell Marshall copied Fender's circuit with a couple of tweaks.
Were he boosting this in the video?
Riffraff
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He is going into the bass channel so that is likely a 1 wire mod that cascades the 2 channels. Cool tone for sure.
The Blackface amps are better for that because they have different transformers. They have a stiffer more immediate feel and sound that would work well with a mod like that. The Silverface models have more sag and are a bit looser. Probably too loose & woofy for a mod like that.
I'm okay with the stock tone. That's what I wanted from it and didn't think I'd have being an ultralinear model. I'm happy with a lower gain, bluesy amp. When I want paint peeling gain I'll plug into my 6505+ or Rock Master preamp.
Devin
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I can't remember if he was plugged in to my pedalboard or not. If so, that would have been my Keeley SD-1 boosting
Riffraff
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Perfect OD for the voicing that amp had.
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