Ola Englund Test out the new Bad Cat Hot Cat 50 Mod Shop *_*

[The~Kid]

New SF twins (I'm assuming you mean the "Custom" series by new production SF twins), are wave soldered pcb pieces/ribbon wired hunks of junk by comparison that btw are still running 2k EACH. $2199 for the '65 TRRI. The new Fender blackface amp line is not on the same level as classic 60's-70's Fender. Not sure where you get the idea they are "better" but you are mistaken on that one.

Idk to me the new stuff sounds better and is also better Built tha! the old stuff in this case IMO either way. However it's made or processes involved.....

 

[The~Kid]

All I can say is I love mine...... It's better than any vintage JCM800 I've played and a few amps make me as happy or induce as much of a satisfying grin....


Especially with the essentials and the basics.....it's hard to beat the sound..... The tone..... And the feel *_*


My Bad Cat Lynx 50...... Not a bad amp and this new Hot Cat 50 is supposed to as good or better and having and loving my Lynx 50 I believe it. As good as the clips sound these things sound even better in person IMO. Thats when you know an amp is great IMO, when it don't need fancy shit to sound good

 

[VonBonfire]

Idk to me the new stuff sounds better and is also better Built tha! the old stuff in this case IMO either way. However it's made or processes involved.....

I guess if you were comparing a worn out old twin against something factory fresh you might get that impression. Theoretically in the same condition they should sound very similar but build quality of new cheap pcb board and ribbon wired twins isn't comparable to something built on a turret board. The whole reason it's done that way isn't because it's higher quality, it's because it's more cheap to build. I'll take two vintage SF's for the same price as one factory TRRI any day.

 

[The~Kid]

I guess if you were comparing a worn out old twin against something factory fresh you might get that impression. Theoretically in the same condition they should sound very similar but build quality of new cheap pcb board and ribbon wired twins isn't comparable to something built on a turret board. The whole reason it's done that way isn't because it's higher quality, it's because it's more cheap to build. I'll take two vintage SF's for the same price as one factory TRRI any day.

Yeah I guess just from my experience the ones I've played failed to live up to expectations and would be great projects but at that point I mean..... You know using modern day stuff to rebuild the old..... I get but for me I don't have the time or patience....


For me the Reissues or Customs or whatever hit the ballpark tone and well sound better as well and feel better too ...... They aren't bad


I understand what some say about the ribbon and PCB stuff but honestly the takeaway is it's more consistent from unit to unit, they retain "character" given components used are tighter than older stuff but still within a margin of error.......


And the through hole stuff such as in Fender PCB and some others use is reasonably serviceable and has been proven to be so over time and trial and error.....



IMO I get but the trade offs and the pros outweigh the cons.

 

[VonBonfire]

Yeah I guess just from my experience the ones I've played failed to live up to expectations and would be great projects but at that point I mean..... You know using modern day stuff to rebuild the old..... I get but for me I don't have the time or patience....


For me the Reissues or Customs or whatever hit the ballpark tone and well sound better as well and feel better too ...... They aren't bad


I understand what some say about the ribbon and PCB stuff but honestly the takeaway is it's more consistent from unit to unit, they retain "character" given components used are tighter than older stuff but still within a margin of error.......


And the through hole stuff such as in Fender PCB and some others use is reasonably serviceable and has been proven to be so over time and trial and error.....



IMO I get but the trade offs and the pros outweigh the cons.

I have a great tech so none of the consistency is a problem for me. That's kind of a must if you are gonna gig a tube amp often. I have better components than what you can get at the factory nowadays and have two twins fully recapped and in top working order. I mean, I paid $500 for one of them in '18, lol. That's cheap power. I just gigged them until they broke and then had them gone through 100% and my '69 has some extra custom tweaks and sounds better than any TRRI IMO and I have a friend who gigs TRRI's exclusively so I have played those too.

At the end of the day I might have 3k all said and done into two pretty sweet vintage twins that will hold some value. Everything has pros and cons but the upfront cost of 2 brand new TRRI's is $4400 bucks plus tax, ooof.

 

[Little B]

I've been using mine since early spring.I like combining it with a high gain amp.

 

[The~Kid]

Get it while you can because something tells me these things aren't going to stay in the shelves for long...... none of the Bad Cats do but these especially.......

 

[The~Kid]

I've been using mine since early spring.I like combining it with a high gain amp.

What do you pair it with, you got one of the very first ones then?


Cheers

 

[The~Kid]

Who needs overseas garbage/trash from Marshall.....


Like the current production JCM800......


Made overseas......


When you have an option and opportunity at a quality amp made better with better components........

Made in USA/Built in America

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Who needs overseas garbage/trash from Marshall.....


Like the current production JCM800......


Made overseas......


When you have an option and opportunity at a quality amp made better with better components........

Made in USA/Built in America

When you say better components; do you mean ribbons and molex connectors? Asking for a friend

 

[The~Kid]

When you say better components; do you mean ribbons and molex connectors? Asking for a friend

No I mean not made out of overseas garbage/trash/junk......


Like most current production Marshalls are made now...... Using foreign parts.....not even made in the UK.....


But NVM that and ignore it..... Don't buy Made in America/Built in USA...... Fuck it and just keep buying trash/junk.


What do I care..... I ain't playing that trash..... Or playing such garbage.....

I'm playing a Bad Cat Amp

 

[VonBonfire]

When you say better components; do you mean ribbons and molex connectors? Asking for a friend

My tech demonstrated how much of a headache those ribbon wired amps ultimately become after a few trips to the bench for repairs. He sighs when someone brings him a fender hot rod or even better yet the supposedly "bulletproof" peavey classics with the folded boards. Any time I look at new amps I send him gut shots to get his opinion and tbh it's not usually very good, lol.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

No I mean not made out of overseas garbage/trash/junk......


Like most current production Marshalls are made now...... Using foreign parts.....not even made in the UK.....


But NVM that and ignore it..... Don't buy Made in America/Built in USA...... Fuck it and just keep buying trash/junk.


What do I care..... I ain't playing that trash..... Or playing such garbage.....

I'm playing a Bad Cat Amp

I have a made in 'Murica amp. But to be honest, it doesn't matter where an amp is made. The components and build quality can be good.

Being obsessed with meaningless details such as origin and overlooking what build quality actually means is fascinating to me.

Please continue to educate us

 

[chumbucket]

I have a great tech so none of the consistency is a problem for me. That's kind of a must if you are gonna gig a tube amp often. I have better components than what you can get at the factory nowadays and have two twins fully recapped and in top working order. I mean, I paid $500 for one of them in '18, lol. That's cheap power. I just gigged them until they broke and then had them gone through 100% and my '69 has some extra custom tweaks and sounds better than any TRRI IMO and I have a friend who gigs TRRI's exclusively so I have played those too.

At the end of the day I might have 3k all said and done into two pretty sweet vintage twins that will hold some value. Everything has pros and cons but the upfront cost of 2 brand new TRRI's is $4400 bucks plus tax, ooof.

And if you take care of those Twins and maintain them, your grandkids can play them. Can't say that about a new PCB/ ribbon cable amp.

 

[The~Kid]

I have a made in 'Murica amp. But to be honest, it doesn't matter where an amp is made. The components and build quality can be good.

Being obsessed with meaningless details such as origin and overlooking what build quality actually means is fascinating to me.

Please continue to educate us

Please continue to be some double crossing.....


Anti-American.....



Supporting Marshall who makes garbage amps made out of garbage overseas trash in the UK imported to the UK from overseas trash and garbage overseas......


Please enlighten us on your UnAmerican/Anti-American BS

 

[VonBonfire]

And if you take care of those Twins and maintain them, your grandkids can play them. Can't say that about a new PCB/ ribbon cable amp.

Agreed chumbucket. Unless you buy PTP or turret board (big money) new amps are made to last maybe twenty years of hard use then be thrown away. You cook a pcb mounted tube socket and you could easily be paddling up shit creek whereas a classic amp it's generally a pretty cheap and easy fix. My Twins are already pushing 60 years old and still going strong.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Please continue to be some double crossing.....


Anti-American.....



Supporting Marshall who makes garbage amps made out of garbage overseas trash in the UK imported to the UK from overseas trash and garbage overseas......


Please enlighten us on your UnAmerican/Anti-American BS

I have never owned a marshall.

However, this really is small potatoes. The real interesting thing is watching you make yourself look like a moron in every thread you start or enter.


The second most intersting thing is you constantly spamming your ignorance with repitition. You are an anomaly

 

[The~Kid]

I have never owned a marshall.

However, this really is small potatoes. The real interesting thing is watching you make yourself look like a moron in every thread you start or enter.


The second most intersting thing is you constantly spamming your ignorance with repitition. You are an anomaly

Then well....


What the fuck are you talking about man.....

And what are you complaining about Soccer Mom/Dad

 

[VonBonfire]

I have never owned a marshall.

I had a Korg era plexi when PCB amps were made without idiotic cut corners like board mounted sockets, jacks, and pots. It was a great amp. I can't believe how cheap some of the stuff is built now. I wouldn't buy without seeing some gut shots first. Made in USA don't mean jack shit anymore, it usually means made with jack shit more often than not.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Then well....


What the fuck are you talking about man.....

And what are you complaining about Soccer Mom/Dad

Unlike your posts, it is clear what i am talking about.

And unlike a thirteen year old girl, i don't post emojis en masse