People with multiple EQ pedals: why don't you just buy gear that sounds good?

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Most pieces of gear are bus tickets, not Ubers. They get you most of the way there but almost never all the way. I’ve always thought of EQ as the Uber you take from the bus stop to where you really want to go.

If I could only have two pedals in a rig, tuner aside, I’d have two EQ pedals. One in front to boost / shape the guitar and character of the distortion, and the other in the loop to pick up where the amp EQ leaves off. But I can’t really imagine needing much more than that.

I know Tosin Abasi used to use a mid boost pedal exclusively after a Friedman BE-OD pedal because it needed a mid boost that nothing else in his rig needed, but edge cases like that aside, once you have more that that, yeah it does start to feel silly.

Here’s another example, in my home studio (where I don’t have to worry about portability) I have a Strymon DIG that I mostly love except for one thing it does that basically ruins the entire pedal. Its Tone control does not darken the first repeat. I could strangle those assholes at Strymon for ruining an otherwise basically perfect delay like that. Anyway, I route it into a parallel mixer in pedal format called the Parallelizer II. It adds parallel stereo loops to your signal path. In one of the loops, I have a ParaEQ going into the DIG. I use the ParaEQ to darken my core tone going into the DIG as well as to scoop out some mids to clear things up a bit, then I set the DIG to kill dry and with that in parallel with my dry core tone, out comes the perfect darkened ping pong delay sound. Yes it’s cumbersome as hell and there’s no way I’d be caught dead using that Rube Goldberg contraption live, but in the studio I haven't found a delay I like better than an EQ into a DIG in parallel with the core sound, so that's what I use there. Live I’d just use a Keeley Halo or something that gets dark on its own. It doesn’t do ping pong but… close enough for live.


But the guy in the OP is using two post distortion EQ's which to me seems redundant. He's using one EQ right after his distortion pedals and a stereo EQ after all his loop effects as an overall tone shaper. Why wouldn't he just set the stereo EQ to also do the job of the EQ after the distortion pedals? It even has presets so he could set a preset for distortion pedals off, and another preset for distortion pedals on.
 
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An EQ in the loop of some amps can be a game changer. Much like the onboard EQs on Mesas and VHT/Fryette amps.
 
I only break out the GE7 to run in front of an amp while recording, it’s good for a nice little clean boost & to adjust the frequencies just a hair. Occasionally I’ll find a setting I really like with that particular amp & rock it accordingly for a while.
 
I don't generally use them, as I don't need them.

But they are a good swiss army knife to have around, to solve problems or to boost in a pinch.

What the fuck is this mindset?



My brother in christ, I have an idea, why don't you just buy pickups that sound right instead of the EQ pedal INTO the drive pedals?

Why don't you buy drive pedals that sound nice instead of the EQ pedal AFTER the drive pedals?

Why don't you buy an amp that sounds nice instead of the eq pedal at the end of the loop? Or use the fucking presence and resonance knobs that are on 90% of amps made nowadays?

I am trying really hard not to be a hater. I swear. BUT JESUS CHRIST MAN WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE LIKE THIS?

Looks like a giant mess if you axe me. He's using EQ like a band aid for bad guitar/pickups/effects/amp selection. Complete trainwreck.
 
I can see an EQ out front when dealing with backline. Otherwise with a typical post-EQ amp I'll be expecting to use what's on the amp, and that the input-side voicing is reasonable.

Pre-EQ high gain amps like Mk series need post-EQ.
 
I put an MXR 10 band in the loop of every amp I play. Sometimes I don’t even adjust the sliders and if I do, it is usually 500 dipped a tad and maybe 62.5 dipped a touch to tighten it up.

But….ive never used two EQ’s at once other than my Furman PQ6, which I would use one channel in the loop and one in front as a boost.
 
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I don't generally use them, as I don't need them.

But they are a good swiss army knife to have around, to solve problems or to boost in a pinch.

What the fuck is this mindset?



My brother in christ, I have an idea, why don't you just buy pickups that sound right instead of the EQ pedal INTO the drive pedals?

Why don't you buy drive pedals that sound nice instead of the EQ pedal AFTER the drive pedals?

Why don't you buy an amp that sounds nice instead of the eq pedal at the end of the loop? Or use the fucking presence and resonance knobs that are on 90% of amps made nowadays?

I am trying really hard not to be a hater. I swear. BUT JESUS CHRIST MAN WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE LIKE THIS?

I Know! It's so stupid. There's a lot of stupidity in general when it comes to gear. Especially on YouTube. Nothing wrong with using one EQ for minor adjustments and tweaks though.
 
Those Boss EQs are noisy as hell—stacking them has to hiss horribly
 
The guy in the OP is using two post distortion EQ's which to me seems redundant. He's using one EQ right after his distortion pedals and a stereo EQ after all his loop effects as an overall tone shaper. Why wouldn't he just set the stereo EQ to also do the job of the EQ after the distortion pedals? It even has presets so he could set a preset for distortion pedals off, and another preset for distortion pedals on.
Pretty much this. One EQ out front to do some tone shaping if you need some final tweaking after the chain and one in the loop for specific frequencies the amp's tone knobs may not hit. Anything else would be approaching overkill or trying to compensate too much for something. Maybe that's just me since I'm not overly anal about my tone. As long there's nothing that's making me cringe when I hear it I'm generally good to go.
 
I don't generally use them, as I don't need them.

But they are a good swiss army knife to have around, to solve problems or to boost in a pinch.

What the fuck is this mindset?



My brother in christ, I have an idea, why don't you just buy pickups that sound right instead of the EQ pedal INTO the drive pedals?

Why don't you buy drive pedals that sound nice instead of the EQ pedal AFTER the drive pedals?

Why don't you buy an amp that sounds nice instead of the eq pedal at the end of the loop? Or use the fucking presence and resonance knobs that are on 90% of amps made nowadays?

I am trying really hard not to be a hater. I swear. BUT JESUS CHRIST MAN WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE LIKE THIS?


Pfft, half measures...














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