Rhoads; live solo, 1979

[alund]

Love his aggressive attack and accuracy. Sounds like he meant every single note.

Yes. His accuracy is quite impressive. No sloppy chops like Page’s “heartbreaker” And sounds like the amp was straight in bareback which is even more impressive. I could be wrong but I suspect EVH was not unhappy with his passing.

 

[thegame]

I could be wrong but I suspect EVH was not unhappy with his passing.

That's a bit extreme

 

[CarlF]

Yes. His accuracy is quite impressive. No sloppy chops like Page’s “heartbreaker” And sounds like the amp was straight in bareback which is even more impressive. I could be wrong but I suspect EVH was not unhappy with his passing.

And what was Randy doing in 1969 when Page was putting down the Heartbreaker solo?
He was playing with his Hot Wheels.

I gotta laugh when stupid twinks compare guitar playing and skills from different eras and decades.

What it boils down to, history will recall, Randy wasn’t even a pimple on Page’s asshole. Or on Eddie Van Halen’s for that matter.

 

[Solarflares]

Randy lacked chops.
He really needed time to develop in the band, and his style, but I think we just got the rushed demos to be honest. Real shame.
Still, pimples, warts and all, he was still good. No-one in the British camp of heavy metal had that flair, or good looks/visual charisma. We all knew he would be something, eventually. Not sure he’d do it before ‘83 though.
I’m sure, given recording time, he could structure better solos than a lot of that twiddly throwaway rubbish.
The 1983 arrival of Yngwie Malmsteen blew everyone out of the water. Including Eddie.
No gay humbuckers here boys. Just straight ‘68 single-coils into a Plexi, with a Boss Distortion.

I can’t understand why Randy didn’t pick up his Les Paul, and a month’s wages - and just disappear.
Though I assume Sharon would have sued to fuck in a very contrived loss of earnings lawsuit.
I wouldn’t put it past them to break both his arms, so they could claim the insurance.
His only choice was to either murder Ozzy, or Sharon. Or see out the tour, in all of it’s low reward, high anxiety reality - without getting a drug habit.

Best clip I ever saw was Louis Theroux and Sharon driving down Sunset one afternoon.
She pulls over and shouts “you fucking cunt” at this old man - who shuffles over to the car and shouts in the window “you dirty fucking whore”.
Louis Theroux asks “who was that?”
“Oh, it’s my dad!”

 

[Floyd Eye]

Lacked chops ?

Let’s see a video of your chops.

 

[Solarflares]

Lacked chops ?

Let’s see a video of your chops.

Fuck that.
I do, however, have a video of me taking cock after cock in a Berlin Leather Club, back in ‘82 - to get money for the bus fare home back to the UK.
No-one ever said the music business is easy. And if it was - they never told these guys.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Sounds about right.

 

[alund]

And what was Randy doing in 1969 when Page was putting down the Heartbreaker solo?
He was playing with his Hot Wheels.

I gotta laugh when stupid twinks compare guitar playing and skills from different eras and decades.

What it boils down to, history will recall, Randy wasn’t even a pimple on Page’s asshole. Or on Eddie Van Halen’s for that matter.

In 1969 RR was about 11. I’d bet he listened to JP and said; I’m better than that.. Randy took what Page had and made it better. Btw, just because we are in a different decade doesn’t mean our skills are better now. I would argue Django Reinhardt, Chet Atkins, Roy Clark and Glen Cambell with a good OD would hammer today’s world.

If I’m a stupid twink, you are Carl from sling blade.

 

[Solarflares]

It’s all about gravity.
Then comes intent.
Randy never had the chance to learn this.
He was overestimated, severely exploited, lived a life of constant anxiety, and had to deal with ugly realities on a daily basis. Too inexperienced to survive the treadmill of touring with a cut-throat organisation.

 

[CarlF]

In 1969 RR was about 11. I’d bet he listened to JP and said; I’m better than that.. Randy took what Page had and made it better. Btw, just because we are in a different decade doesn’t mean our skills are better now. I would argue Django Reinhardt, Chet Atkins, Roy Clark and Glen Cambell with a good OD would hammer today’s world.

If I’m a stupid twink, you are Carl from sling blade.

Yes, because RR’s recorded output can stand next to Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin.

Like I said, he’s not a pimple on Page‘s ass

 

[hammered]

Yep, he hated playing the Sabbath stuff. When I listen to it it's almost as if he's thumbing his nose at Ozzy with all the fills and leads. There's alot out there on youtube of him doing the Sabbath stuff. However there is one version of him doing Paranoid and he just shreds the fuck out it. If Randy had recorded Speak that album would have been huge.

He was leaving, no doubt about that. Seems like the only debatable point is would Speak of the Devil have been his last work or did he agree to doing that and one more studio album

He was gonna do another studio album and tour after the live covers of Sabbath material. Page 227 in Rudy’s book

 

[CarlF]

And Brad Gillis did a better job than RR on the Sabbath material on Speak Of The Devil

 

[SgtThump]

Randy took what Page had and made it better…

This doesn’t compute to me. There are zero similarities in their styles.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Yes, because RR’s recorded output can stand next to Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin.

Like I said, he’s not a pimple on Page‘s ass

His recorded output happened in about 1 year. If he had lived?

It would be interesting to hear what Page thinks of him. We already know what Eddie thought of him, since Eddie bought his albums and went to his shows and constantly accused ( falsely) him of ripping him off. He was clearly intimidated.

It's also pretty clear by all accounts of people that knew him that he wouldn't care at all what Page or Eddie or you thought of his guitar playing.

 

[thegame]

Ah, so we’re back in my Dad can beat up your Dad territory huh?

 

[CarlF]

His recorded output happened in about 1 year. If he had lived?

It would be interesting to hear what Page thinks of him. We already know what Eddie thought of him, since Eddie bought his albums and went to his shows and constantly accused ( falsely) him of ripping him off. He was clearly intimidated.

It's also pretty clear by all accounts of people that knew him that he wouldn't care at all what Page or Eddie or you thought of his guitar playing.

If he lived, he’d be selling out 10 seaters, opening up for Phillip Sayce.

 

[Floyd Eye]

If he lived, he’d be selling out 10 seaters, opening up for Phillip Sayce.

Sure.