Rig-Talk

[Shark Diver]

PM'd, I'll help anyway I can. We are running RT orders through our dealer KIng Guitar (Brad). And Green is a definite option!

 

[metalmaniac93]

PM'd, I'll help anyway I can. We are running RT orders through or dealer KIng Guitar (Brad). And Green is a definite option!

Thanks!!!

 

[glpg80]

spouted off on a daily basis by those "cruising" the forum.

I see what you did there

 

[Ventura]

Interesting thread.

I believe myself to be a fairly avid frequenter of this place - I like this place. Interestingly enough, I've kinda pulled back a bit lately only because I feel too much time in front of this screen when I could be playing is less productive than the purpose of this site, which is really about music and playing it. My job has me in front of the screen a lot, and as entertainment, this place has served me well - in addition to being akin to a living breathing gear related magazine replete with photos, reviews, clips, etc. It's great!! But my recent headspace shift is about spending LESS time tapping keys, and more time tapping the fretboard.

So it goes. I'm not going anywhere...as I don't think there's a better music forum out there - period - I just wanna spend less time being a recluse net-tard and spend more time honing my skills

Peace Y'All...
Mojo

 

[guitarmike]

I have some thoughts on this and will post them later. To me, Rig Talk is a shadow of its former self. I'm not talking about actual numbers of visitors, because I have no idea on that info. Just excitement and interaction are way down.

I'm thinking, most of the original RT crew have been on forums since the early days of HC, and have been playing w/ gear goodies for a way longer time than that, and aren't searching for the "secrets" anymore-- as most of those secret codes are indeed cracked, which definitely affects excitement.

This is pretty close to what I was thinking, there's not much that's truly "new" in the gear world and I think most that have been around here for a while have done enough whoring to know what they like and have said their piece. It seems like there's nothing really new to talk about unless you enjoy the same recycled EVH or Marshall talk.

You can only have so many opinions to post on the same subjects before you sound like a broken record and don't feel like posting the same thing again

I agree. Also I think the way it was back then with the insane gear flipping and posting New "_____" Day posts made it more fun for some. New builders on the scene with stuff to try that was easier to move etc. That's has changed a great deal. The economy is different and it wouldn't surprise me some guys were up to their eyeballs in debt. So IMHO people grow and move on. That's my view on it.

You are forgetting something; There are always new guys and gals that are at a point in their life where they can afford a high end amp and want to learn about all the choices out there now. I am one of them, I bought and sold enough gear to afford 2 high quality pro rigs and spent considerable time here learning from the guys that went before me

There are many of us that enjoy reading about the folks that are building and modding amps. While I agree the wheel has been invented, there is an infinite number tires and rims to choose from. And more are designed each year.

The Kemper is an example of new gear that is exciting and seems like a game changer in the modeling world. These are cool times and I'd like to think we'd have alot to talk about here

 

[Rushtallica]

The major thing that I have noticed is that as of late, This place is crawling as in agonzingly slow. Ive been pretty busy so Im not around all tha much but thats my biggest gripe. We all work so that can get in the way...

Its a community and shit is going to get aired out from time time whether we like it or not, Like anything else, if it doesnt appeal to you, ignore it. This place is nothing more than what we make it, at least to me ...

just my .02

Well said.

 

[Anonymous]

Agreed...many of the people who I interact with the most seem to be very infrequent visitors these days.

I've been busy taking deposits on the software I'm developing at my new company to fund the developers, hardware and software I need as well as to feed and house my family. Hey... we gotta eat, man! Hope there's a market!

On another note, I always "feel the love" at rig-talk. Haven't noticed any unusual drama myself...

Steve

 

[Bob Savage]

On another note, I always "feel the love" at rig-talk. Haven't noticed any unusual drama myself...

Steve

Shove it, troublemaker.

 

[Shark Diver]

On another note, I always "feel the love" at rig-talk. Haven't noticed any unusual drama myself...

Steve

Shove it, troublemaker.

That's how you keep a thread going.

 

[King Guitar]

PM'd, I'll help anyway I can. We are running RT orders through our dealer KIng Guitar (Brad). And Green is a definite option!

Thanks Dave, no worries guys if you want a Luxxtone, please shot me a PM and I will coordinate and place the order for you and we can coordinate with Jerry and Dave for the build, it helps me and the forum to do it that way

 

[Anonymous]

I have some thoughts on this and will post them later. To me, Rig Talk is a shadow of its former self. I'm not talking about actual numbers of visitors, because I have no idea on that info. Just excitement and interaction are way down.

I'm thinking, most of the original RT crew have been on forums since the early days of HC, and have been playing w/ gear goodies for a way longer time than that, and aren't searching for the "secrets" anymore-- as most of those secret codes are indeed cracked, which definitely affects excitement.

I do think this is a big factor. Myself and the dudes I know best here have hashed over stuff a million times. I've gotten tired of posting the same responses to the same questions I've answered a million times for the new guys. I do it sometimes, but not as much. And it isn't 'cause I don't like you new guys, btw - I'm just burned out going over the same thing again and again.

I've also slowed down bit on the gear acquisition and although I still enjoy posting when I get something cool and new, it happens less often.

I've also, over the years since I started on forums in '02 had the chance to sample a bit of everything and now I know what I like and have either acquired (or am in the process of acquiring) what I need to get the sounds I dig. I'm less interested in new gear...

I also used to love the forum jams. You know - someone would post a backing track or drum track or whatever and we'd all create something over it. 20 or more people would participate. It was fun to create something and also listen to other people's wildly different interpretations. Man I dug it. We'd get into all types of tone, technique and mixing discussions based on this. Even if I hadn't jammed one because I didn't have the time, I'd listen and enjoy the takes that were done. These jams were a lot of the basis for the friendships I formed here and originally at HCAF. There have been a few attempts to get this going again, but nothing has caught on. Wish we could get that going again. Seems much more gear function oriented here now and less about the playing. Most guys here, I've never even heard play and it was opposite before. This is a key missing element that has led to less community, but it's all of our faults for not participating when people have tried to get something going...

I'm also busier than ever working at a new startup and trying to get my amp biz going. Just have less time to hang here...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

On another note, I always "feel the love" at rig-talk. Haven't noticed any unusual drama myself...

Steve

Shove it, troublemaker.

Screw you, meanie.

Steve

 

[Chubtone]

I came to RT in 2006 with the first wave of guys who left after a big meltdown at HC

The thing that differentiated Rig Talk from other forums in my opinion was the quality of players that were attached to these screen names and opinions. You would be reading the opinions of guys who could just take your head off with their playing AND for the most part these guys were extremely humble and not trying to really gain credibility with others.

I have found much more snobbishness and attitude on here the last couple of years and in that case I expect to just have my ass kicked from here to Sunday by the guitar playing. Than when you finally hear a clip or hear some playing at NAMM or at a gear fest, you are left I have no problem with players at whatever level and interacting with them. Where I get mental is when we are being dictated to or talked down to by a guy who plays at about 30% of where his attitude is.

Also, some of the not even thinly veiled ass kissing, nut swinging, back slapping, attempts to get into the inner circle here have been downright cringe-worthy. I know many men have been severely turned off by this. You know when you are reading something and you are embarrassed for the guy writing it? I don't blame the guy at the top as I'm sure he could sort out the sincere from those just wanting to be in the heavenly shade of his swinging man parts, or who wanted to get something out of him, but that's what donbarzini's whole trip was about. He was like, "you guys know that we are all reading this and for the most part we are grown men here? Why don't you just come out and ask him if he would let you wax his back for him?" If posting video links to the Pacino "Cruising" movie wasn't enough to make you re-think your approach to buttering up another man on a public forum, well, finally barzini gave up.

Again, I don't blame Brad. He didn't require or solicit this ass kissing and for the most part, I don't see him even effected by it. It's just kind of an uncomfortable thing to watch happening, kind of like a link to the Pacino "Cruising" movie is an uncomfortable thing. Did anyone else ever get what barzini's point was?

When Bob and Chris sold this forum, there was no telling what could have happened to it and I think that what we have today is one of the better case scenarios.

It is up to us to make this a better, more interesting place. We also need lots of these RT, old timer, guitar bad asses to come back here and share their playing and wisdom with us.

 

[metalmaniac93]

I came to RT in 2006 with the first wave of guys who left after a big meltdown at HC

The thing that differentiated Rig Talk from other forums in my opinion was the quality of players that were attached to these screen names and opinions. You would be reading the opinions of guys who could just take your head off with their playing AND for the most part these guys were extremely humble and not trying to really gain credibility with others.

I have found much more snobbishness and attitude on here the last couple of years and in that case I expect to just have my ass kicked from here to Sunday by the guitar playing. Than when you finally hear a clip or hear some playing at NAMM or at a gear fest, you are left I have no problem with players at whatever level and interacting with them. Where I get mental is when we are being dictated to or talked down to by a guy who plays at about 30% of where his attitude is.

Also, some of the not even thinly veiled ass kissing, nut swinging, back slapping, attempts to get into the inner circle here have been downright cringe-worthy. I know many men have been severely turned off by this. You know when you are reading something and you are embarrassed for the guy writing it? I don't blame the guy at the top as I'm sure he could sort out the sincere from those just wanting to be in the heavenly shade of his swinging man parts, or who wanted to get something out of him, but that's what donbarzini's whole trip was about. He was like, "you guys know that we are all reading this and for the most part we are grown men here? Why don't you just come out and ask him if he would let you wax his back for him?" If posting video links to the Pacino "Cruising" movie wasn't enough to make you re-think your approach to buttering up another man on a public forum, well, finally barzini gave up.

Again, I don't blame Brad. He didn't require or solicit this ass kissing and for the most part, I don't see him even effected by it. It's just kind of an uncomfortable thing to watch happening, kind of like a link to the Pacino "Cruising" movie is an uncomfortable thing. Did anyone else ever get what barzini's point was?

I would like to thank Brad for keeping this forum going and for letting me continue to hang out and post here even though I am in the same business as he is and a "competitor" in a small way. He is more on the high end of this industry than I am. But, when Bob and Chris sold this forum, there was no telling what could have happened to it and I think that what we have today is one of the better case scenarios.

It is up to us to make this a better, more interesting place. We also need lots of these RT, old timer, guitar bad asses to come back here and share their playing and wisdom with us.

I agree!!! If it wasn't for this place, I would not have known about the Mark's mods/pre-production CCVs and the production Cameron amps as well as the many other great modified amp companies out there like Friedman, Fortin, FJA, Henning to name a few. Everyone who I have interacted with on this site has been cool and very helpful!!!

 

[Bob Savage]

I also used to love the forum jams. You know - someone would post a backing track or drum track or whatever and we'd all create something over it. 20 or more people would participate. It was fun to create something and also listen to other people's wildly different interpretations. Man I dug it. We'd get into all types of tone, technique and mixing discussions based on this. Even if I hadn't jammed one because I didn't have the time, I'd listen and enjoy the takes that were done. These jams were a lot of the basis for the friendships I formed here and originally at HCAF. There have been a few attempts to get this going again, but nothing has caught on. Wish we could get that going again. Seems much more gear function oriented here now and less about the playing. Most guys here, I've never even heard play and it was opposite before. This is a key missing element that has led to less community, but it's all of our faults for not participating when people have tried to get something going...



Steve

This is one of the things I became disappointed about too. We had the jams early on here but when only the same 3 people join in on the jams they tend to stop.

 

[Death by Uberschall]

I want the forum to be as big as it can handle, but I gotta say I'm glad it slowed just a little bit. For a while there were times when if you missed 1 day you were 4-5-6-7 pages deep on new threads you had to go through to get caught up.

 

[King Guitar]

I also used to love the forum jams. You know - someone would post a backing track or drum track or whatever and we'd all create something over it. 20 or more people would participate. It was fun to create something and also listen to other people's wildly different interpretations. Man I dug it. We'd get into all types of tone, technique and mixing discussions based on this. Even if I hadn't jammed one because I didn't have the time, I'd listen and enjoy the takes that were done. These jams were a lot of the basis for the friendships I formed here and originally at HCAF. There have been a few attempts to get this going again, but nothing has caught on. Wish we could get that going again. Seems much more gear function oriented here now and less about the playing. Most guys here, I've never even heard play and it was opposite before. This is a key missing element that has led to less community, but it's all of our faults for not participating when people have tried to get something going...



Steve

This is one of the things I became disappointed about too. We had the jams early on here but when only the same 3 people join in on the jams they tend to stop.

Hey Guys,

Little known fact, I found Rig Talk myself because I heard Bobs Bogner clips and thought they were killer and tracked him down here on early RT to try to hear more. It was all about finding the best tone and players for me as well in coming here. It has evolved into my whole life now but it didn't start that way. As far as playing skills I have always said I am at best a hobbyist and nothing special at all, I know what good tone sounds like and I have lots of experience with what gear sounds like what but as far as shredding it up like Steve Vai I am just not that talented in that department but I know what I like. (I know the comment above from Curt was not about me but just saying). I am going to start a new thread tomorrow with a Suggestion Box type of vibe for you guys to make constructive comments on how I can make things around here a little cooler than they might be now. I can't do everything everyone might like but I will certainly try to make it better within my ability and skills.

Brad

 

[Mailman1971]

On another note, I always "feel the love" at rig-talk. Haven't noticed any unusual drama myself...

Steve

Shove it, troublemaker.

That's how you keep a thread going.

Bob is such a trouble maker.....

 

[Anonymous]

I also used to love the forum jams. You know - someone would post a backing track or drum track or whatever and we'd all create something over it. 20 or more people would participate. It was fun to create something and also listen to other people's wildly different interpretations. Man I dug it. We'd get into all types of tone, technique and mixing discussions based on this. Even if I hadn't jammed one because I didn't have the time, I'd listen and enjoy the takes that were done. These jams were a lot of the basis for the friendships I formed here and originally at HCAF. There have been a few attempts to get this going again, but nothing has caught on. Wish we could get that going again. Seems much more gear function oriented here now and less about the playing. Most guys here, I've never even heard play and it was opposite before. This is a key missing element that has led to less community, but it's all of our faults for not participating when people have tried to get something going...



Steve

This is one of the things I became disappointed about too. We had the jams early on here but when only the same 3 people join in on the jams they tend to stop.

Hey Guys,

Little known fact, I found Rig Talk myself because I heard Bobs Bogner clips and thought they were killer and tracked him down here on early RT to try to hear more. It was all about finding the best tone and players for me as well in coming here. It has evolved into my whole life now but it didn't start that way. As far as playing skills I have always said I am at best a hobbyist and nothing special at all, I know what good tone sounds like and I have lots of experience with what gear sounds like what but as far as shredding it up like Steve Vai I am just not that talented in that department but I know what I like. (I know the comment above from Curt was not about me but just saying). I am going to start a new thread tomorrow with a Suggestion Box type of vibe for you guys to make constructive comments on how I can make things around here a little cooler than they might be now. I can't do everything everyone might like but I will certainly try to make it better within my ability and skills.

Brad

Hey Brad,

I think the whole point of Bob and my comments that you quoted was that it is OUR fault, not YOURS. In order to make the jams happen, we have to participate and comment on each other's takes. That is what leads to discussion, etc. A lot is up to us as a community to make things as vibrant and cool as they used to be...

Steve

 

[Bob Savage]

Hey Brad,

I think the whole point of Bob and my comments that you quoted was that it is OUR fault, not YOURS. In order to make the jams happen, we have to participate and comment on each other's takes. That is what leads to discussion, etc. A lot is up to us as a community to make things as vibrant and cool as they used to be...

Steve

Absolutely right.

Thanks for the compliment, Brad. Very cool you found RT based on my Bogner clips.