So the Fender Road Worn are MIM and $1000?

[hunter]

Made in Mexico by Mexicans instead of Made in California by Mexicans?

ROTFL awesome reply !!

 

[zewango]

http://www.music123.com/EVH-Wolfgang-Electric-Guitar-527909-i1435208.music123

This will really hurt then

http://www.music123.com/EVH-Frankenstein-Humbucker-580302-i1435343.Music123

That might be worth a try

 

[Bad Brad]

Shit is getting crazy with prices. Road worn yeah what a marketing scam that is.

 

[D-Rock]

Or you can just get a non road worn one for $400.

+1. I don't see what the big deal is.

the kid wants a USA strat, I did explain that there were great sounding MIM stuff out there if he looks but he wants to same as his idols.

If he wants a USA Strat than a HWYOne is the way to go. I have one, got it for $700 new.

This is it.

 

[ratter]

Some reviews are starting to come in and they're actually pretty good. As much as I am not really interested in a $1000 MIM guitar, people are paying 50%+ more than that from the guys who are putting together 'relics' from Allparts bits. So if you look at it like that, all of a sudden it might not be so crazy if you want a relic.

 

[Digital Jams]

Some reviews are starting to come in and they're actually pretty good. As much as I am not really interested in a $1000 MIM guitar, people are paying 50%+ more than that from the guys who are putting together 'relics' from Allparts bits. So if you look at it like that, all of a sudden it might not be so crazy if you want a relic.

I have an opinion of those "parts" relics but will be nice about it and just state that I hope the people that own them enjoy them

 

[jlbaxe]

personally i think there is nothing better than your own scares on it. you can look at it and remember the night it happened and know they are your memories and real. I have a Charvel/Jackson the hit a speaker stack while we were playing at a party and chiped the back part of the point on the headstock about 3/4 on an inch by 1/2 of an inch,I still remember that night I had a friend (she was HOT)feeding me drinks through a straw in one of those sports cups while i played. Wonder where she is now....

 

[Anonymous]

Some reviews are starting to come in and they're actually pretty good. As much as I am not really interested in a $1000 MIM guitar, people are paying 50%+ more than that from the guys who are putting together 'relics' from Allparts bits. So if you look at it like that, all of a sudden it might not be so crazy if you want a relic.

I have an opinion of those "parts" relics but will be nice about it and just state that I hope the people that own them enjoy them

How many of them have you actually played? Just wondering...

I enjoy my Allparts 'relic'. It plays great, sounds great and looks cool to me. The Lollar pickups are really nice. I paid $1500 and I consider it money well spent.

I certainly understand people not liking the way a beat up guitar looks or not wanting to pay for someone to beat up a new one they built from parts. There is certainly alot of work that goes into making one look authentic though. If people don't appreciate that, I understand that as well..

What I do not understand is the somewhat silly attitude that some have that people who buy them are "posers" of some kind. That a guitar shouldn't be allowed to be made to look old - you have to "earn" that by playing 100,000 beer bar gigs over 20 years. Then it is "cool" that your guitar looks old and beat up...

I dunno... I just liked the way the one I bought looked, so I picked it up, plugged it in and damn if it wasn't the best playing/sounding traditional strat style guitar I'd ever played. I knew I was getting an assembled parts guitar, but I didn't care.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. There's mine, I guess...

Steve

 

[Variable]

Holy crap a MIM Fender is now $1000, never thought I would see that. A good friend of mine's kid has been saving for a MIA Strat and you should have seen his face when I told him that by Feb he was going to be a further 25% short, felt bad for the kid since he has been shoveling his ass off the past 3 weeks to make money.

G&L. 'Nuff said.

 

[Digital Jams]

Some reviews are starting to come in and they're actually pretty good. As much as I am not really interested in a $1000 MIM guitar, people are paying 50%+ more than that from the guys who are putting together 'relics' from Allparts bits. So if you look at it like that, all of a sudden it might not be so crazy if you want a relic.

I have an opinion of those "parts" relics but will be nice about it and just state that I hope the people that own them enjoy them

How many of them have you actually played? Just wondering...

I enjoy my Allparts 'relic'. It plays great, sounds great and looks cool to me. The Lollar pickups are really nice. I paid $1500 and I consider it money well spent.

I certainly understand people not liking the way a beat up guitar looks or not wanting to pay for someone to beat up a new one they built from parts. There is certainly alot of work that goes into making one look authentic though. If people don't appreciate that, I understand that as well..

What I do not understand is the somewhat silly attitude that some have that people who buy them are "posers" of some kind. That a guitar shouldn't be allowed to be made to look old - you have to "earn" that by playing 100,000 beer bar gigs over 20 years. Then it is "cool" that your guitar looks old and beat up...

I dunno... I just liked the way the one I bought looked, so I picked it up, plugged it in and damn if it wasn't the best playing/sounding traditional strat style guitar I'd ever played. I knew I was getting an assembled parts guitar, but I didn't care.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. There's mine, I guess...

Steve

I have no issues with parts guitars, just ordered my Yngwie loaded pickguard to transplant into a MIM strat that I have and will be ordering an Allparts scalloped neck in the next day or two. So I guess I will be playing a parts strat soon enough and yeah I am sure I will be playing with the neck pocket as I do not expect a perfect fit right out of the gate. The thing will be a real mutt that cost about $700 after I am through.

I would have no issue with an outstanding $1500 Nash if it delivered the goods, IMO the $4000 "master built heavy relic" models on the other hand make me want to punch myself in the nutsack that Fender puts out.

Not sure about the how many I have played? Any relic? I have played several and IMO....

The neck did not feel like a 20 year old neck that had its edges rolled through friction and wear, I own a 20 year old guitar that was owned by Randyvansykes and that is what I consider an aged with hands neck. A MIM strat costs $400, if someone needs to spend $600 on the relic job well then if it makes them happy then do it.


The paint removed on the arm contour was not where my arm was I will confess though while sitting down I play in a classical position so that may have something to do with it.

I am sure that a neck that has been relic'd properly will feel better than a new maple neck with square edges, will not refute that. Rounded the edges to my RG550x due to that lousy feel. THat is the reason I do not like binding, I don't like the feel of the edges.

Anyways Steve, yes it is a preference that some perfer and more power to them

 

[ratter]

you have to "earn" that by playing 100,000 beer bar gigs over 20 years. Then it is "cool" that your guitar looks old and beat up...

Sillier still because nobody would call somebody a poser if they bought, say, a real '65 strat, even though all the dings and wear were put on in by somebody else.

It's all cosmetics.

 

[Digital Jams]

you have to "earn" that by playing 100,000 beer bar gigs over 20 years. Then it is "cool" that your guitar looks old and beat up...

Sillier still because nobody would call somebody a poser if they bought, say, a real '65 strat, even though all the dings and wear were put on in by somebody else.

It's all cosmetics.

Serious question then as I do not know the market....a real 65 strat that has been pretty beat up, same value as a better condition example or less due to the damage? I have no clue. In this day of relics I would think same value but doubt that.

 

[ratter]

you have to "earn" that by playing 100,000 beer bar gigs over 20 years. Then it is "cool" that your guitar looks old and beat up...

Sillier still because nobody would call somebody a poser if they bought, say, a real '65 strat, even though all the dings and wear were put on in by somebody else.

It's all cosmetics.

Serious question then as I do not know the market....a real 65 strat that has been pretty beat up, same value as a better condition example or less due to the damage? I have no clue. In this day of relics I would think same value but doubt that.

I have no idea either. I could see it both ways, that some people would think the cleaner the better, but that others would look at the beat up guitar as one that was well-played for a reason. But I don't know the reality of the market.

Since I'll never own one I guess I don't really give a shit. But my point was that the wear on the real '65 is just as fake as on the '65 relic in the sense that you the new owner didn't 'earn' it.

 

[Digital Jams]

you have to "earn" that by playing 100,000 beer bar gigs over 20 years. Then it is "cool" that your guitar looks old and beat up...

Sillier still because nobody would call somebody a poser if they bought, say, a real '65 strat, even though all the dings and wear were put on in by somebody else.

It's all cosmetics.

Serious question then as I do not know the market....a real 65 strat that has been pretty beat up, same value as a better condition example or less due to the damage? I have no clue. In this day of relics I would think same value but doubt that.

I have no idea either. I could see it both ways, that some people would think the cleaner the better, but that others would look at the beat up guitar as one that was well-played for a reason. But I don't know the reality of the market.

Since I'll never own one I guess I don't really give a shit. But my point was that the wear on the real '65 is just as fake as on the '65 relic in the sense that you the new owner didn't 'earn' it.

All I know is that I have been playing the shit out of my Hamer for 6 years and other than the pup ring screws rotting out that finish is still mint

I just think the basic relic job could be done at home which gives me an idea, might as well just try it to see what happens to my yngwie parts project. I could be wrong in my view that one does not need to pay big bucks to get that relic look. Comes out like shit I just re-shoot it vintage white.

 

[skoora]

I personally think the road worns are kind of cool. I like the feel of the 50's neck and the 60's neck. Also dig the satin feel of the "worn" neck. I don't like the texas specials in them. All the ones I played are too dark IMO. If they're one piece bodies as well as thin Nitro finish I could see that adding to the cost. Maybe most of the upcharge is the labor to relic them? I personally won't pay $1000 for one as I would get a HWY 1 for a lot less but for new USA I'd rather go with G&L in a heartbeat as you're looking at just over a $1000 for some new legacy's....plus I love their #1 neck, the jumbo frets and their alnico pickups are some of the best oem pickups I've ever heard.

Having had the lucky oppurtunity to play a few early 60's strats I can say no relic job has ever come close to how those necks felt. Butter baby, butter.

Remember there's many Korean guitars over $1000 now.

 

[badger71]

Count me in the "I don't get it" camp. Pay extra $$ to have someone thrash your guitar aesthetically? Nope....I'd venture to guess: if it sounds good "reliced" then it sounded just as good when it was built with brand new parts to begin with. To each their own, though, and if you grab the guitar and it sounds good and plays the way you want it too, then god bless ya, enjoy the hell out of it....even if someone took a belt sander, tea bags, canned air, and saline water to it.

As far as Nash, K-Line, etc....from the few I've played, they play great. I had even thought about ordering an Esquire from K-line, minus the relicing of course. The attention to detail on these guitars is fabulous and their playability just as fabulous. The same goes for Fender Customs and Master Builts that I've played.

It will be funny, though, to hear the Custom Shop Relic owners talking about how "fake" the relicing looks on the MIM versions. Oh, the TGP threads will be hot over this topic.

 

[trey85stang]

I was at GC today.. those road worn strats and tele's are made in mexico? I thought they were a decent deal @ $949 MIA... but MIM... no thanks. althought they did look great... when I first saw them I thought one of them was actually an old strat

 

[thiswaythatway]

I played one of these Fenders today. It actually felt very nice and the neck was really comfy. But being that it's a MIM Strat you know it's value with plummet once you buy it. For $500 they would be a great deal.

 

[badger71]

I'll try one as I'm sure Buffalo Brothers Guitars here in Carlsbad will get a few. Shit, I bought my Baja Tele there and it was a fantastic guitar....great tone and great build. I had to shuffle through a few of them, though, as there were some build/weight issues with a few others they had. I expect to have to do that, though, regardless if they're MIA, MIJ, MIK, MII, MIM, etc...I'll try any guitar, regardless of finishing process, just to see how it feels.

 

[Digital Jams]

I'll try one as I'm sure Buffalo Brothers Guitars here in Carlsbad will get a few. Shit, I bought my Baja Tele there and it was a fantastic guitar....great tone and great build. I had to shuffle through a few of them, though, as there were some build/weight issues with a few others they had. I expect to have to do that, though, regardless if they're MIA, MIJ, MIK, MII, MIM, etc...I'll try any guitar, regardless of finishing process, just to see how it feels.

If the guitar is a good one then hell yeah I would want it, just wont pay an $600 up-charge for it.

Dealer near me just got 3 of these road worn models in and will check them out.