soldano slo. can it do the brootz?

[petejt]

I believe it's more to do with the playing style and a fuller-range speaker/s, that's get a brutal tone. The attitude. Hit those strings REALLY hard, dig into them, palm-mute hard, make those speakers growl and roll.

Honestly I can't really catch onto modern metal, because I feel the "brutal" factor relies too much on the amp saturating and compressing the hell out of the tone produced from limp-wristed strumming. You've got to make those strings scream, not just amplify a whisper.

 

[fuzzyguitars]

I hate an amp that needs a boost or OD always on to make it do what I want. A $100 pedal in front of a $4000 amp doesn't make much sense to me, and sounds like shit at the end of the day. Boosting leads and compressing the tone from time to time is fine.

Steve

well then you are gonna hate a whole lot of amps then!

it is quite a common thing for guys to boost their amps with a pedal to tighten things up.

it sounds quite different that just turning up the amp to a similiar amount of gain.

 

[fuzzyguitars]

oh ya. Mine wasn't so good for it before I got the depth mod and tweaked the speakers but now it's most of the way there.

It probably needs a boost or hot pickups to get to the most modern of modern sounding modern sounds. Maybe Mike will release a 10 string baritone edition soon...the super lo overdrive?

I loved the KTRE as well...but right now my UL and SLO are like a match made in heaven.

What speaks are getting there for you?

run scumback h75-lhdc/m75 in a port city ported cab.

i used to hate vintage 30's

but the more i research the albums that have tones that i like, i see that 9 out of 10 they were recorded with a v30!

everything andy sneap does is through a v30.

i still hate the way they sound at jams, but the v30 sure does record well.

this clip was done with a v30 through a rivera silent sister iso cab.




and i disagree that the slo has to be screaming loud to sound good.

for the clip i had the overdrive channel volume only on 2.

 

[stephen sawall]

I hate an amp that needs a boost or OD always on to make it do what I want. A $100 pedal in front of a $4000 amp doesn't make much sense to me, and sounds like shit at the end of the day. Boosting leads and compressing the tone from time to time is fine.

Steve

I would not use the word hate .... but feel the same. Phase (vibe) and wa is about the only pedals I use any more. For me if I need to boost I am using the wrong amp.

 

[Jordon]

Bone-stock SLO's can get as heavy as any other amp. I can prove that, if need be.

Yeah, but it has to be ungodly LOUD to get there. I played an SLO a few times and i thought there were plenty of other amps i would use instead if i were playing metal.

Yep. I absolutely love the SLO. It covers a lot of ground imho, but I'd choose a 5150 or Recto over it for metal.

I didn't need to get it that loud, honestly. Moderate gigging volume, no boost needed, though it would definitely help if the gain is a touch low for personal tastes. I don't like to over-saturate metal/modern metal tones, personally. I have a buddy who plays in a death/black/tech metal band, and his main amp is a stock SLO. I think it's all in the way you approach the amp. The 5150 was based off of the SLO, if I'm not mistaken. So was the Dual Recto, if memory serves. Can someone correct me on that if I'm wrong?

 

[stephen sawall]

If I understand correct the 5150 ~ no. DR ~ only one part of the preamp of the orange channel. These amps do not sound much like a SLO.

 

[diagrammatiks]

i don't think the slo absolutely needs a boost.
I hardly run mine with it.
But it depends on what sound you're going for exactly.

 

[Ventura]

As mentioned, it's all in what one defines as "brootlz" with respect to the SLO. Normal tunings, the SLO was a staple in any of the heavier band's rigs back in the day. But nowadays, amp manufacturers have really focused on low end response, percussive detail, and drop tunings while still maintaining the hi-gain preamp to power-valve saturation stage of tone. Let's take a usual suspect like the Uberschall. Compare it to an SLO. The Uberschall will sound like thunder right from the get go, and maintain that thunder with whatever gain's on tap. When played against something like the Uber, the SLO doesn't hold the lower ground. It's bloody loud, it's got great gain from, say, the 40%-of-the-sonic-spectrum-up, but the Uberschall is knocking knees on the Drop D (and lower) while still blowing ears in the higher-scale registers as well.

I've had one, played one, loved it, but it became less and less a regular in my repertoire with amps such as the Uber, VH4S, and others showing up more recently.

V.

 

[Shark Diver]

I hate an amp that needs a boost or OD always on to make it do what I want. A $100 pedal in front of a $4000 amp doesn't make much sense to me, and sounds like shit at the end of the day. Boosting leads and compressing the tone from time to time is fine.

Steve

I would not use the word hate .... but feel the same. Phase (vibe) and wa is about the only pedals I use any more. For me if I need to boost I am using the wrong amp.

I'm not a big pedal guy, but on a 2 channel amp like the SLO, I have my OD channel set for my high gain/lead, and then the clean channel for slightly od and clean (splitting HB to get that). I have to use a boost on the clean to get more OD type tones from the clean. Setting the gain higher initially and rolling back the volume just isn't as nice. I find a boost retains more of the amps characteristics, gives me a different eq palette if necessary, and doesn't lose the balls of the amp, even clean, that happens when rolling back the guitars volume.

 

[IntenseJim]

I have no OD or boost or fuzz pedals on my small board.
The SLO lead channel is fine for me.

I could see using a boost/OD on the clean/crunch channel to get a 3rd tone or 'channel' out of this two channel amp.

 

[Digital Jams]

I hate an amp that needs a boost or OD always on to make it do what I want. A $100 pedal in front of a $4000 amp doesn't make much sense to me, and sounds like shit at the end of the day. Boosting leads and compressing the tone from time to time is fine.

Steve

I would not use the word hate .... but feel the same. Phase (vibe) and wa is about the only pedals I use any more. For me if I need to boost I am using the wrong amp.

I'm not a big pedal guy, but on a 2 channel amp like the SLO, I have my OD channel set for my high gain/lead, and then the clean channel for slightly od and clean (splitting HB to get that). I have to use a boost on the clean to get more OD type tones from the clean. Setting the gain higher initially and rolling back the volume just isn't as nice. I find a boost retains more of the amps characteristics, gives me a different eq palette if necessary, and doesn't lose the balls of the amp, even clean, that happens when rolling back the guitars volume.

Boosting has really gone into a void and is getting rather dumbed down with it's use of just adding compression. The only reason I may boost is to soften the amp so that my shit licks may come out half way good. No distortion but just raising the level hitting the pre section. Guys boosting a 4 stage pre to play rhythm just blows my mind to start with

Boostig a clean marshall is the shit though, good solid crunch going and rolling back the fiddle volume.....yeah that is the shit.

 

[diagrammatiks]

The only reason I use a boost or an od or fuzz is to make ear splitting sounds that make sense to nobody.

 

[stephen sawall]

I hate an amp that needs a boost or OD always on to make it do what I want. A $100 pedal in front of a $4000 amp doesn't make much sense to me, and sounds like shit at the end of the day. Boosting leads and compressing the tone from time to time is fine.

Steve

I would not use the word hate .... but feel the same. Phase (vibe) and wa is about the only pedals I use any more. For me if I need to boost I am using the wrong amp.

I'm not a big pedal guy, but on a 2 channel amp like the SLO, I have my OD channel set for my high gain/lead, and then the clean channel for slightly od and clean (splitting HB to get that). I have to use a boost on the clean to get more OD type tones from the clean. Setting the gain higher initially and rolling back the volume just isn't as nice. I find a boost retains more of the amps characteristics, gives me a different eq palette if necessary, and doesn't lose the balls of the amp, even clean, that happens when rolling back the guitars volume.

Boosting has really gone into a void and is getting rather dumbed down with it's use of just adding compression. The only reason I may boost is to soften the amp so that my shit licks may come out half way good. No distortion but just raising the level hitting the pre section. Guys boosting a 4 stage pre to play rhythm just blows my mind to start with

Boostig a clean marshall is the shit though, good solid crunch going and rolling back the fiddle volume.....yeah that is the shit.

That is one of the few ways I use a boost, I also like some pedals in front of Fender and Vox voiced amps. Pedals can offer some interesting colors.

 

[lolzgreg]

Almost every modern metal production has a boost on it. It's really important to shave off some of the uber lows and highs limit the bandwith of the signal heading toward your first gain stage to get the right kind of saturation and clarity.

 

[stephen sawall]

Almost every modern metal production has a boost on it. It's really important to shave off some of the uber lows and highs limit the bandwith of the signal heading toward your first gain stage to get the right kind of saturation and clarity.

Are you saying all modern amps need a boost ?...... I know you are not but wonder how you are using the word boost here. The word can be used many ways.