Soooo... Will the EVH 5150-III Stealth Blow My Skirt Up?

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nevusofota":c08f9d69 said:
I'm betting that if you weren't that impressed with the overall tone of the standard 100 than you're not going to be blown away by the 100s. Adding a bit of gain and resonance isn't going to all of a sudden make it the amp of your dreams. I think hype is once again fogging purchasing decisions. However, I do agree with taking advantage of online retailer's 'send it back at no cost' feature. Why not try it out in the privacy of your own home with your own gear? :thumbsup:


The thing is that i was very impressed with the original one, i bought mine when they came out,thought this was going to make it a tad better, but i`m real happy about the 45 day time tryout.

Ah well :aww:
 
Shiny_Surface":13lc334d said:
7 Stringer":13lc334d said:
Watcha all think about that :)

Chris

The Stealth bubble burst at Rig Talk 2014 grand event :lol: :LOL:

Talk about burst, took 15 minutes and it was blown :lol: :LOL:

I can tell quite fast if an amp is for me or not, this one wasn`t.

Chris
 
7 Stringer":1iv1vvp3 said:
Moshaholic":1iv1vvp3 said:
7 Stringer":1iv1vvp3 said:
I just got confirmation for a return

Watcha all think about that :)

Chris

:clap: :clap: :clap:

lol...

It's all part of the "insanity"...

:rock: :rock: :rock:

I`m officially in the "Insanity" club now.....

And your not helping my cause :gethim:

Mr. Multiwatt :lol: :LOL:

:thumbsup:
I always happy to be of service when it comes to the insanity club !!! :rock: :lol: :LOL: :rock:

Right now I want to start doing some clips and I'm trying to decide if I should buy a Zoom Q2 or try and find a mic for my JVC HD camcorder...
 
I guess it comes down to what you want to get out of the amp. I have the 100s side by side with my original EVH. Both sound and feel great to me. IMO the stealth sounds best with the gain set low on all channels. Take the blue channel , set the gain down low and boost it with a 808 and you might change your mind.

I would also mess around with the tubes also before anyone writes the stealth off . I swapped out most of the stock preamp tubes with other JJs I have because the stock ones just didnt sound as good for whatever reason. I also went back to Sovtek Wxt+ in the power section because they sound best to me in the EVH amps. Winged C's are great tubes but not the best match for this amp IMO
 
the4thlast1":1jijt7jd said:
I guess it comes down to what you want to get out of the amp. I have the 100s side by side with my original EVH. Both sound and feel great to me. IMO the stealth sounds best with the gain set low on all channels. Take the blue channel , set the gain down low and boost it with a 808 and you might change your mind.

I would also mess around with the tubes also before anyone writes the stealth off . I swapped out most of the stock preamp tubes with other JJs I have because the stock ones just didnt sound as good for whatever reason. I also went back to Sovtek Wxt+ in the power section because they sound best to me in the EVH amps. Winged C's are great tubes but not the best match for this amp IMO

Have you ever put the Sovtek WXT's in your original EVH? I've been curious about trying this tube in my 50w.

-JD
 
the4thlast1":63m5wiru said:
I guess it comes down to what you want to get out of the amp. I have the 100s side by side with my original EVH. Both sound and feel great to me. IMO the stealth sounds best with the gain set low on all channels. Take the blue channel , set the gain down low and boost it with a 808 and you might change your mind.

I would also mess around with the tubes also before anyone writes the stealth off . I swapped out most of the stock preamp tubes with other JJs I have because the stock ones just didnt sound as good for whatever reason. I also went back to Sovtek Wxt+ in the power section because they sound best to me in the EVH amps. Winged C's are great tubes but not the best match for this amp IMO

It totally agree that some tube swapper-roo's would be a possible game changer. :rock:

With all the "gain" anguish, there is some irony though to your statement...

"IMO the stealth sounds best with the gain set low on all channels."

:lol: :LOL:

Peace out brother Art!
 
Haha yeah I dunno broski. I guess the question is why buy an amp with more gain and then set the gain low ? haha.. Lets see if I can break it down.

I dont really need a very clean clean so green channel I'm not worried about. Did it need to have more gain NO I dont think so , they could have left this channel alone I would say.

Blue channel is great now I think. It has tons of gain available yes but I think if you set it on the lower side of things its better than the original blue. The blue channel is now more like the red channel was on the original except its more open and clearer than the red which is what I was looking for.

Red channel stealth did not need more gain but once again it sounds killer with the gain set Very Very low on this channel. This channel has more "bite" to it which is cool I think.

The other thing that others may or may not like is this amp sounds brighter and clearer all around. Its not as dark and mellow on the highs as the original. I personally did not fall in love with mine until I changed the tubes though which is why I mentioned it.
 
souldigger":2m8lr4sc said:
the4thlast1":2m8lr4sc said:
I guess it comes down to what you want to get out of the amp. I have the 100s side by side with my original EVH. Both sound and feel great to me. IMO the stealth sounds best with the gain set low on all channels. Take the blue channel , set the gain down low and boost it with a 808 and you might change your mind.

I would also mess around with the tubes also before anyone writes the stealth off . I swapped out most of the stock preamp tubes with other JJs I have because the stock ones just didnt sound as good for whatever reason. I also went back to Sovtek Wxt+ in the power section because they sound best to me in the EVH amps. Winged C's are great tubes but not the best match for this amp IMO

Have you ever put the Sovtek WXT's in your original EVH? I've been curious about trying this tube in my 50w.

-JD

Yes the Sovtek Wxt + are also in my original EVH. They are the best match I have found so far. I have tried JJ, Ruby, and SED 6L6s in both amps
 
Same for me, could not get a decent clean sound, red channel was crazy noisy, I did like the blue channel




7 Stringer":2uwhffwi said:
Mailman1971":2uwhffwi said:
The stealth seems like a Beast. Really really would love to check one out. :thumbsup:


I`m checking one out right now and :thumbsdown:

For ME it comes to this:

Green=Too much gain
Blue=Too much gain
Red=Too much gain

There you have it, the Stealth.

Seriously, i`m not really digging it, i love my original more than this one. The green i knew a bit what was coming, but i didn`t think that the blue would have that much gain, it`s too much for me. It kind of kills the girth it once had.

Anyway, i`m going to get my 5153 at my other drummers place and i`ll A/B them and then decide if it`s a keeper or a gonner.

We`ll see.

Chris
 
the4thlast1":qfv0f8pd said:
Blue channel is great now I think. It has tons of gain available yes but I think if you set it on the lower side of things its better than the original blue. The blue channel is now more like the red channel was on the original except its more open and clearer than the red which is what I was looking for.

Red channel stealth did not need more gain but once again it sounds killer with the gain set Very Very low on this channel. This channel has more "bite" to it which is cool I think.

The other thing that others may or may not like is this amp sounds brighter and clearer all around. Its not as dark and mellow on the highs as the original. I personally did not fall in love with mine until I changed the tubes though which is why I mentioned it.

This^^^ :thumbsup:

it's too bad that Mosh and 7-stringer didn't feel the 100S vibe.
but I'm with ya brutha on the original 5150iii and the 100S. what i'm hearing is the darker mid and highs on the original vs the 100S. with the gain set lower, IMHO the amp seems more clearer articulation-wise, and I don't hear any kind of a smear or over saturation at all.

no question the amp's got a TON of gain on tap, but as I noted earlier I play with my axe volume and try to balance out the sizzle and note articulation. YMMV.

I'm definitely diggin' the 100S as well! :rawk:
 
I love my 50 watt and 100 watt. The 100s is exactly what I thought it was going to be and I dig it. Put a Ruby Ac5+ in the gain stage ( thank you Valve queen) and then Everbody (will) want some…...
 
eddyrox":2mqm81p7 said:
the4thlast1":2mqm81p7 said:
Blue channel is great now I think. It has tons of gain available yes but I think if you set it on the lower side of things its better than the original blue. The blue channel is now more like the red channel was on the original except its more open and clearer than the red which is what I was looking for.

Red channel stealth did not need more gain but once again it sounds killer with the gain set Very Very low on this channel. This channel has more "bite" to it which is cool I think.

The other thing that others may or may not like is this amp sounds brighter and clearer all around. Its not as dark and mellow on the highs as the original. I personally did not fall in love with mine until I changed the tubes though which is why I mentioned it.

This^^^ :thumbsup:

it's too bad that Mosh and 7-stringer didn't feel the 100S vibe.
but I'm with ya brutha on the original 5150iii and the 100S. what i'm hearing is the darker mid and highs on the original vs the 100S. with the gain set lower, IMHO the amp seems more clearer articulation-wise, and I don't hear any kind of a smear or over saturation at all.

no question the amp's got a TON of gain on tap, but as I noted earlier I play with my axe volume and try to balance out the sizzle and note articulation. YMMV.

I'm definitely diggin' the 100S as well! :rawk:

Jammed it again tonight, was OK, nothing out of the extraordinary. Still have to get my 5153 over here so i can really compare.

Then i hooked up my 6534+ :rock:

Note definition was improved, clarity, less bottom end, a bit thinner but rocked and was heard better in the mix. Less saturation. The clean is actually killer on this thing man, i`m really impressed with it. These amps are overlooked, more people should try these out, they flat out rock. Does the 5150 tone and then some, they do the rock thing great too.

$700 (New but used) VS $2200 (I got a deal at $1999 though)

N ow i need a BE-100, i`m missing mine now, plus the newer ones got the full clean, i`m sending the Stealth back in a week or two and getting a BE.

I`m done after that, no more amps for me.... :confused: :doh: :lol: :LOL:

Chris
 
7 Stringer":3kc3usp5 said:
N ow i need a BE-100, i`m missing mine now, plus the newer ones got the full clean, i`m sending the Stealth back in a week or two and getting a BE.

I`m done after that, no more amps for me.... :confused: :doh: :lol: :LOL:

Hey Chris, if you're anything like me...and it seems like we are :yes: ...I'll have to cry "ok" and say it'll be 6 months, tops, before we start looking around again :thumbsup:
...either that or stay off of the gear forums!!! :lol: :LOL: :D
mike.
 
I've got a few Sovtek preamp tubes lying around. Where would you guys suggest I try them out in the stealth? V1?
 
eddyrox":16vdy3ct said:
7 Stringer":16vdy3ct said:
N ow i need a BE-100, i`m missing mine now, plus the newer ones got the full clean, i`m sending the Stealth back in a week or two and getting a BE.

I`m done after that, no more amps for me.... :confused: :doh: :lol: :LOL:

Hey Chris, if you're anything like me...and it seems like we are :yes: ...I'll have to cry "ok" and say it'll be 6 months, tops, before we start looking around again :thumbsup:
...either that or stay off of the gear forums!!! :lol: :LOL: :D
mike.

:lol: :LOL:

Probably a lot of truth in your statement :cry:

I want this to be over now you hear :aww:

Damn this forum ;)

Chris
 
victim5150":1yohh70x said:
I've got a few Sovtek preamp tubes lying around. Where would you guys suggest I try them out in the stealth? V1?

V1 + V4
 
I am digging the Stealth!

Comparing with my 5150 III 100 side by side, there is a big difference. Enough so I am keeping both. Reading all these comments I thought I would share my thoughts for... I guess anyone that's going to snatch up one of the last few floating out there or from someone flipping a new one. (By the way there are around 520 made right now worldwide)

First of all , I had a chance to try mine out before buying it, brought my own guitar but played through a stores v30 4x12 rear loaded (not a EVH cab). I have not played through a EVH cab in years but I know I didn't like it when I did. Having currently (15) 4x12 cabs, I have already matched it up to a winner, my mid 70's 25w blackback Marshall straight cab.

The first thing I noticed playing against by 5150 III 100 is the amp is extremely HOT! Like every channels is boosted. I found the mid control can help shape the attack if desired by backing off from 12:00 setting.

Clean Channel: As everyone else mentioned the Clean channel at first felt way too hot breaking up on 3 easily, but I have found no harm running the gain on "1", with no tone loss as you would normally experience on a tube amp at this setting. The cleans are really good and pretty comparable to my ears to the original with the gain at different settings of course.

Blue Channel: the biggest difference in the two amps, the original blue would make a great "channel 2" if this was a 4 channel amp like a Diezel VH4. Just tons of gain and again very HOT. I expected this channel to more compressed than it is, but it's pretty open and raw.

Red Channel: I really like the RED channel, more than others I think. It compares pretty close to the original but hotter.

I know it's not, but I keep thinking that the Stealth was inspired to help compensate for the EVH cabs that are a bit dull to my ears. Even if you go to Celestions website and listen to the sound bite comparisons, the EVH speakers don't sound that great against the other. I bet the stealth works well with it.

Overall, its a cool amp. Somewhat unnecessary as the original is so great, but channel 2 and 3 are hard not to like when you play them side by side. If I had to keep only one it would be the Stealth in a heartbeat with the addition of resonance controls and being I can trim back the gain channels if desired and mimic the original pretty close, but still have more on tap! I have to say the effects loop is just as good as the original which I think is one of the better loops on any high gain amp.

I also had the chance to play the 50w version at the store I bought from and a/b with the Stealth and that was the end of my interest in the 50w version. IMO, There is a major difference in those two, and the 50w sounded really, really thin. It was small and cute and sounded that way too. Bummer because I wanted to have all versions.

 
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Ok, the Stealth is not that bad, but, I prefer the original. Again I find the Stealth way too gainy, and by a lot. It is more aggressive, brighter, noisier and squeals quite easily at higher volumes. Channel two can't sound like the original, it thins out if you lower the gain too much,even when playing with the resonance knob. It sounds great for higher gain though but for me it's too much. It's quite brighter too overall.

I put an EQ in my original one and came close to the Stealths aggressiveness and brightness. So in the end, it ain't worth the extra cash. I'm keeping my original and getting a BE.

Chris
 
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forget the reviews...I'm just stoked checking out how awesome the Stealth head LOOKS!!! :lol: :LOL:
:rawk: :rawk:

BEAUTIES!!!
mike
 
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