I can tell you first hand they do have a interesting relationship. I agree with the quality of songs and have said to Ty why don't you write stuff like that for Kings X? I personally feel that it's because X has never gotten any recognition and made good money for what they have done. So they have to develop other streams of possible income, solo efforts. I mean at the end of the day even if the music is unbelievable and they barely make enough money to live, you start to think you should look for other ways to make money! There is much more to the relationship they have and it's personal, so I won't post any of it. It has been said so many times it's criminal what they have done and what they have received. All the props in the world about being so influential, dynamic, unbelievable as a 3 piece don't put cash in their pockets! The early days, as far a production, they were great with Sam at the helm but this is where it all started and has led them to where we are today!