Unpopular Rig-pinions

[Juggernaut]

I can't listen to glam rock from the 80s.....nothing from Dokken or any of the bands like that; it's just cheese metal to me. It's like the Beatles, I can appreciate what they did, I just don't want to hear it.

Thank you... I'm the same way.

Devin Townsend is an amazing all around musician who borders on genius at times (no argument there I'm sure) but for every brilliant song he puts out, there's another 10 absolute filler tracks that bookend them. Please Devin, take your time and save your best stuff for a release every 2 - 3 years instead of bombarding us with a 60+ minute album every 6 months.

Even Devs "filler" stuff is better than most anything else coming out these days. Hell his Demos sound better than most groups actual albums.


My unpopular opinion: the Original Pod 2.0 (pro) with a bad monkey boosting it, is thrashy as fuck and sounds pretty damned good.

 

[Monkey Man]

I found the original POD bean to have a nice warmth to it. I could coax some great cream out of it man.

The HD500 20 or so years later, OTOH, took me 2 years of daily tweaking 'til I was "happy", but not enough to prevent me from selling it and buying a Kemper a month later. Geez that thing was scratchy-sounding and required a lot of work to coax anything creamy out of.

 

[skullfxr]

Here is one: EVH has contributed more with his signature gear including the way he used his rig at the time (brown sound) , than he did to the furthering of his technique and or playing.

I bet I am the only one who thinks tjay

 

[Monkey Man]

He inspired a Helluva lot of dudes to take up guitar 'though; there can be no doubt.

 

[skullfxr]

He inspired a Helluva lot of dudes to take up guitar 'though; there can be no doubt.

Most definitely. But his signature gear has gone farther with other guitarists than with himself.

 

[skullfxr]

Also the Rivera Era of Fender made some great advances in amp technology and innovation regarding as fender as amp design.

 

[SoooRad]

Here is one: EVH has contributed more with his signature gear including the way he used his rig at the time (brown sound) , than he did to the furthering of his technique and or playing.

I bet I am the only one who thinks tjay

I think I would largely agree with that.

However, I can't think of any really significant guitar players that made "advancements" in their playing during their career, except maybe Steve Vai and Glenn Tipton

 

[skullfxr]

Here is one: EVH has contributed more with his signature gear including the way he used his rig at the time (brown sound) , than he did to the furthering of his technique and or playing.

I bet I am the only one who thinks tjay

I think I would largely agree with that.

However, I can't think of any really significant guitar players that made "advancements" in their playing during their career, except maybe Steve Vai and Glenn Tipton

I can agree with that. But even the 'new evolutions' that made EVH known were still dwarfed by his evolution of signature gear.

Also there have been way more monumental recordings
using EVH gear than Eddie himself ever did. Tenfold.

 

[UltraGary]

Played a few guitars recently and thought of both my fellow Rig-Talkers and this thread. Hows this for a spicy and very UNpopular opinion here on this topic: ESP guitars are sub-standard copies of real guitars, and only a forum shred-nerd would consider spending good $ on one.

(go ahead....shoot at me)

 

[guitarnerdswe]

Played a few guitars recently and thought of both my fellow Rig-Talkers and this thread. Hows this for a spicy and very UNpopular opinion here on this topic: ESP guitars are sub-standard copies of real guitars, and only a forum shred-nerd would consider spending good $ on one.

(go ahead....shoot at me)

I don't think you're alone. Here in Sweden, moving an ESP is nigh on impossible. It's like a running joke over here on forums and among musicians. Nobody wants them.

Personally, I think they look cheap and tacky a lot of the time.

 

[braintheory]

Played a few guitars recently and thought of both my fellow Rig-Talkers and this thread. Hows this for a spicy and very UNpopular opinion here on this topic: ESP guitars are sub-standard copies of real guitars, and only a forum shred-nerd would consider spending good $ on one.

(go ahead....shoot at me)

Well if ESP is then why wouldn’t other brands like Ibanez, Jackson, Charvel, Schecter, etc also be sub-Standard copies of real guitars?

FWIW, I’m friends with a few guys who’ve never gone on any forum and have owned ESP’s, 2 of whom are not even shred or metal players. They just likes ESP’s. One of them had a high end Custom Horizon with an all quilt maple body that I bought from him. The higher end ones like an Original Series Horizon may change your mind about them

I don’t really think of ESP as being the most popular thing here. If you want really spicy though you’d have to dislike something like Charvel, EVH, Warren Demartini, Jake E Lee, Randy Rhoads or Cameron

 

[TheGreatGreen]

-I'll take a simple GEQ pedal over a Tubescreamer any day.
-Hendrix was a fantastic and creative music writer but an average player. His songs are 100x better when played by other more competent players.
-the original 5150 sounded like crap in the room but it's still absolutely top tier for recorded high gain tones.

 

[Fordman65]

ESP makes great used guitars imo. Resale on them is absolutely shit. Never, EVER buy one new. That said, as of the last few years, I am much more into American made guitars. Suhr, TA, KL, maybe even a PRS or Fender. I do hate Gibson though, so there's that

 

[Markedman]

More than likely your guitar needs a set-up to play great. A real luthier set-up, not some hack job most "luthiers" do.

Plekk = great.

.010 - .056 work great if you play 8 hours a day. 9-46 is for regular players if you play occasionally. The list of greats playing .008 is too long, look it up. .011 or higher is very very vain and can lead to harm unless you are a MAN & a 1/2 or more.

There's absolutely nothing bad about Fender and Marshall amps. They sound cool and the copies by Boutique amp builders are fun. Revv Gen., Mad Proffessor 101, etc. nice flavors but, nothing will ever match or even hang around in a room with a Boogie C+, I've seen it before and I'll see it again. C+ in the King of the Mountain. Not sorry.

Dimebag could play that. He could play anything your favorite could play but there is only a handful that can out do Dimebag at just one thing, he could play anything his heart desired.

There's Hendrix and then there's #2. Whoever. Hendrix is why the guitar sounds like it does because Everyone plays like Hendrix, yes, even Yngwie.

I can hear the difference between EL34 and 6L6 tubes.

Now, Fuck off and die, OK?

 

[SpiderWars]

New 21 fret guitars are dumb. Vintage 21 fret guitars have an excuse...they were built before the epiphany that the 22nd fret was a HUGE addition. New ones...dumb as fuck.

I'd love an EJ Stories Strat but never with just 21 frets. Guess I'll have to build it but where to find Sassafras Strat bodies?

 

[jco5055]

Played a few guitars recently and thought of both my fellow Rig-Talkers and this thread. Hows this for a spicy and very UNpopular opinion here on this topic: ESP guitars are sub-standard copies of real guitars, and only a forum shred-nerd would consider spending good $ on one.

(go ahead....shoot at me)

What's your fave stuff then? And this is in no way an attack, I'm just curious as Idk if I'm aware of guitars that make ESP look like shit (assuming we are talking about actual ESP Japan guitars and not LTD).

 

[PBGas]

My unpopular opinions?

-Do you really need to use a tube screamer in front of an already high gain amp?
-Some regular production amps sound better then some boutique amps costing 3x as much.
-In a blind test, many would not even be able to tell the difference between a modeller and a tube amp these days.
-There are more amp plugins being used on popular recordings then we know.
-There are more modellers being used on popular recordings then we know.

 

[ghosty999]

My unpopular opinions?

-Do you really need to use a tube screamer in front of an already high gain amp?
-Some regular production amps sound better then some boutique amps costing 3x as much.
-In a blind test, many would not even be able to tell the difference between a modeller and a tube amp these days.
-There are more amp plugins being used on popular recordings then we know.
-There are more modellers being used on popular recordings then we know.

- Not at all, I find you get a more raw sound through high gain amps without the compression and mid bump of a TS. However an OD can help tighten up the bottom end for drop tunings.
- Agreeeeeee, people listen with their eyes.
- Agreed, again people listen with their eyes.
- This does make me sad sometimes, I like to hear the story of the rig and naunces that made the tone.
- True, we probably hear more Kempers and Fractals than Marshalls now.

 

[napalmdeath]

Jake E. Lee's tone, guitars, and abilities are extremely overrated.

Slash, and his tone is extremely overrated.

Only a dolt would shell out big bucks for a production model "relic'd" guitar. This has to be at the top of my list as the dumbest things I've seen. Sure, people love & buy them, but... Dumb...

 

[braintheory]

Played a few guitars recently and thought of both my fellow Rig-Talkers and this thread. Hows this for a spicy and very UNpopular opinion here on this topic: ESP guitars are sub-standard copies of real guitars, and only a forum shred-nerd would consider spending good $ on one.

(go ahead....shoot at me)

What's your fave stuff then? And this is in no way an attack, I'm just curious as Idk if I'm aware of guitars that make ESP look like shit (assuming we are talking about actual ESP Japan guitars and not LTD).

Agreed. I’ve owned and tried so many and my favorite metal/shred superstrat type guitars have been the ESP Original series and Charvel Custom Shop