US Desperation Grows as Iran is winning

[Geo]

Time to hit this thread with an Alpha Stryke

IRaN iS WiNinG !!!!!
IRaN haS tEh bEAst MilLitRY Evr !!!!!!

You forgot one thing.

 

[Picasso]

Iranians have probably transitioned to insurgent tactics. It's moving to a ground game.

 

[Picasso]

You forgot one thing.

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That’s what his nipples look like.

 

[The~Kid]

you want brilliant politics 70 style

take or seize all the fucking oil. every last drop

then hang a sign out that says free oil take all you want.

you'll see how fast Nato, Russia and china will back us

I mean isn't it funny how the British wanted to help all of a sudden after we completely destroyed Irans Air Defenses.......


Fuckers ain't dumb..... And they want some of the pie too..... You don't think the French want some of the pie or those surrounding Iran.....


Even China/Russia would want whatever crumbs are left and you're right

 

[Floyd Eye]

Yet the regime remains in power, and the military remains capable...it's called the mosaic defense strategy.

Explain to us how the military remains capable.

It seems to me that you equate the regime being in power ( which frankly you have no fucking idea who is in power in Iran) with "Winning".

You do understand that if the US was to just decimate the entire place it would be really fucking difficult to get ANY regime in power and with the ability to defend itself. Kinda like what happened in Iraq.

There's a lot more to government military operations carried out by professional, very competent soldiers, than what randos on a guitar forum know or understand.

 

[Floyd Eye]

And you are the last mother fucker that has any business in a conversation about military strategy, Nam boy.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the Central Intelligence Agency. He is the co-owner and CEO of Business Exposure Reduction Group Associates, LLC, and the co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.
He's no leftist by any stretch.

So what ?

 

[Floyd Eye]

When you fill up the truck, think back to this thread and ask yourself who's winning?

The US public, in general, can't stand the least inconvenience. If gas prices stay up or go even higher, if items that depends on oil and gas start to show up in short supply, etc, there will be a public riot.

I filled it up last night and filled up the Mercedes this morning. Regular gas is $3.78 at the moment.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

So what ?

So, he would be considered an expert on the subject.

See my second signature quote below...

 

[Floyd Eye]

So, he would be considered an expert on the subject.

See my second signature quote below...

Lots of people are considered experts. Does this dude no one ever heard of have inside information ? Is he privy to what is happening in the pentagon ? No he isn't. He's another talking head with an agenda, that's all.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Explain to us how the military remains capable.

It seems to me that you equate the regime being in power ( which frankly you have no fucking idea who is in power in Iran) with "Winning".

You do understand that if the US was to just decimate the entire place it would be really fucking difficult to get ANY regime in power and with the ability to defend itself. Kinda like what happened in Iraq.

There's a lot more to government military operations carried out by professional, very competent soldiers, than what randos on a guitar forum know or understand.

Winning for Iraq means staying in power and keeping control of the country and now controlling Hormuz traffic. So far, by that metric, they're winning.

Winning for the US means Iran capitulates. By that metric the US is losing.

The only way the US can decimate the entire place is by (1) nukes or (2) hundreds of thousand of boots on the ground. The odds of either happening are vanishingly small.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Sure, since it's you.

As of early May 2026, roughly two-thirds of Iran's air force remains functional.

Officials said that as of the ceasefire in early April, roughly half of Iran's ballistic missile stockpile and its launch systems were still intact. In addition, about 60% of the naval forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) remain operational, including fast-attack boats.

Infrastructure: Many, though not all, Iranian airbases are protected by up to 100m of rock and concrete, making them highly resistant to conventional bombing.

The leadership was expecting to be attacked by the US for decades, so they planned lines of succession 8 layers deep. Sure, you guys killed a lot of their top leaders. But there was an orderly replacement and their military and civilian governments continue to function normally.

https://www.tbsnews.net/world/iran-military-more-capable-what-us-claims-officials-say-1426871

If you think the US is winning, please explain what military objectives were achieved?

- Regime Change? Nope. If anything, the moderates were killed and replaced by hardliners

-Nuclear Capability destroyed? Nope. The uranium remains where it was before the war (anyway, they hadn't restarted up a nuclear weapons program since last summer). The US would have to send ground troops to get it, and the IRGC is a million man army.

-Before the war, oil and goods flowed freely through Hormuz. Now, Iran has demonstrated the ability to close it at will, which they had never done in the past.

-The US is exposed as a paper tiger, unable to unseat even a relatively weak opponent. Let alone a near peer like China or Russia. You guys just have expensive toys.

-Speaking of expensive toys, Iranian strikes during "Operation Epic Fury" (April 2026) caused over $5 billion in damage to US military bases and equipment across the Middle East, with 16 sites in seven countries heavily impacted. Key damage includes destroyed aircraft (MQ-9 drones, F-15E, MC-130 tankers), damaged runways at Qatar's Al Udeid base, and significant hits to the Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/01/world/video/us-military-bases-iran-strikes-images-invs-digvid
Majority of US military sites in Middle East damaged by Iran, CNN investigation reveals

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So. The Iranian regime's goal was to survive the onslaught of US and Israeli attacks, which they did.
Again I ask, which US strategic goals were achieved? You guys blew up a lot of shit and killed some people, but for what?

Winning for Iraq means staying in power and keeping control of the country and now controlling Hormuz traffic. So far, by that metric, they're winning.

Winning for the US means Iran capitulates. By that metric the US is losing.

The only way the US can decimate the entire place is by (1) nukes or (2) hundreds of thousand of boots on the ground. The odds of either happening are vanishingly small.

They aren't controlling Hormuz traffic.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Lots of people are considered experts. Does this dude no one ever heard of have inside information ? Is he privy to what is happening in the pentagon ? No he isn't. He's another talking head with an agenda, that's all.

He knows more about the situation than all of us combined.

 

[JDs Couch]

Explain to us how the military remains capable.

I already did, at length, in post #40, out of respect for you.

It seems to me that you equate the regime being in power ( which frankly you have no fucking idea who is in power in Iran) with "Winning".

Let's look at it this way: when a country is attacked (unprovoked in this case), and the stated goal of the attacker is to unseat the current government; and after 2 months of war, that government remains in place, what do you call it?

Iran's goal is to survive..they didn't choose war. They have survived.

What is the US goal?

Winning is defined by meeting strategic objectives, agreed? Which objectives have been met?

You do understand that if the US was to just decimate the entire place it would be really fucking difficult to get ANY regime in power and with the ability to defend itself. Kinda like what happened in Iraq.

Exactly. The only thing the US military can do is destroy things and make them worse. Pretty good argument for staying out of war.

There's a lot more to government military operations carried out by professional, very competent soldiers, than what randos on a guitar forum know or understand.

True. But we're all here anyway, might as well share opinions.

Cheers Floyd, I hope you have a great weekend.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Sure, since it's you.

As of early May 2026, roughly two-thirds of Iran's air force remains functional.

Officials said that as of the ceasefire in early April, roughly half of Iran's ballistic missile stockpile and its launch systems were still intact. In addition, about 60% of the naval forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) remain operational, including fast-attack boats.

Infrastructure: Many, though not all, Iranian airbases are protected by up to 100m of rock and concrete, making them highly resistant to conventional bombing.

The leadership was expecting to be attacked by the US for decades, so they planned lines of succession 8 layers deep. Sure, you guys killed a lot of their top leaders. But there was an orderly replacement and their military and civilian governments continue to function normally.

https://www.tbsnews.net/world/iran-military-more-capable-what-us-claims-officials-say-1426871

If you think the US is winning, please explain what military objectives were achieved?

- Regime Change? Nope. If anything, the moderates were killed and replaced by hardliners

-Nuclear Capability destroyed? Nope. The uranium remains where it was before the war (anyway, they hadn't restarted up a nuclear weapons program since last summer). The US would have to send ground troops to get it, and the IRGC is a million man army.

-Before the war, oil and goods flowed freely through Hormuz. Now, Iran has demonstrated the ability to close it at will, which they had never done in the past.

-The US is exposed as a paper tiger, unable to unseat even a relatively weak opponent. Let alone a near peer like China or Russia. You guys just have expensive toys.

-Speaking of expensive toys, Iranian strikes during "Operation Epic Fury" (April 2026) caused over $5 billion in damage to US military bases and equipment across the Middle East, with 16 sites in seven countries heavily impacted. Key damage includes destroyed aircraft (MQ-9 drones, F-15E, MC-130 tankers), damaged runways at Qatar's Al Udeid base, and significant hits to the Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/01/world/video/us-military-bases-iran-strikes-images-invs-digvid
Majority of US military sites in Middle East damaged by Iran, CNN investigation reveals



So. The Iranian regime's goal was to survive the onslaught of US and Israeli attacks, which they did.
Again I ask, which US strategic goals were achieved? You guys blew up a lot of shit and killed some people, but for what?

First, I seriously doubt most of this information is actually accurate and available to anyone with a modem. And you should too, because that's absurd.


One thing is for certain. The left and the media are definitely rooting for Iran. God knows they wouldn't want anything that makes Trump look good being made public.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

They aren't controlling Hormuz traffic.

It's certainly not "open".

The NY traders have a new acronym. NACHO. Not A Chance Hormuz Opens.

 

[JDs Couch]

I filled it up last night and filled up the Mercedes this morning. Regular gas is $3.78 at the moment.

Ouch. More than 25% higher since February huh.

 

[Floyd Eye]

I already did, at length, in post #40, out of respect for you.

Let's look at it this way: when a country is attacked (unprovoked in this case), and the stated goal of the attacker is to unseat the current government; and after 2 months of war, that government remains in place, what do you call it?

Iran's goal is to survive..they didn't choose war. They have survived.

What is the US goal?

Winning is defined by meeting strategic objectives, agreed? Which objectives have been met?

Exactly. The only thing the US military can do is destroy things and make them worse. Pretty good argument for staying out of war.


True. But we're all here anyway, might as well share opinions.

Cheers Floyd, I hope you have a great weekend.

My opinion is I don't know. And I ain't taking some internet or TV personality's word for it.

You would have to have rocks in your head to believe that the US couldn't devastate beyond repair in a matter of days if they wanted to. There's a lot more to it than CNN wants you to know.

I'm stuck on a shitty job that ran a couple days long so I will be working this weekend, but I hope you have a nice weekend JD.

 

[Floyd Eye]

It's certainly not "open".

The NY traders have a new acronym. NACHO. Not A Chance Hormuz Opens.

Not to Iran anyway. lol

 

[JDs Couch]

First, I seriously doubt most of this information is actually accurate and available to anyone with a modem. And you should too, because that's absurd.


One thing is for certain. The left and the media are definitely rooting for Iran. God knows they wouldn't want anything that makes Trump look good being made public.

You aren't arguing in good faith here. You asked me for my data and I provided it for you. Then you just claim it can't be true because it's "absurd".

I doubt many people are rooting for Iran. The idea that you must be "rooting" for the "bad guy" by opposing the war is flawed logic. It's the same argument used when the US disastrously went to war in Iraq. Anyone who opposed the war was labeled a Saddam lover or a terrorist supporter. Really simplistic thinking.