Techdeth
RESIDENT ROCK PROFESSOR
I’m about to go on Bugera . Times are hard
DanTravis62
Moderator
I only mentioned one amp, the butcher, and those kill like 90% of the boring modern imported garbage companies put out these days
Techdeth
RESIDENT ROCK PROFESSOR
It’s ok . Not great . But I enjoy it . But it’s lacking alot imo
DanTravis62
Moderator
Compared to the crap that's coming out today? If peavey made them in the USA, and rereleased the VTM and butcher today for inflation adjusted prices compared to what they were, they would absolutely destroy everything on the market.
And that's kind of the point - they fucked up over and over and over again when all they had to do was keep doing what they were doing
shar-vell Dan
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I would submit John Fields.
The problem with selling your intellectual "property" to China is China owns it after you do that.
Like so many US companies the last 50 yrs+ the owners sold out. No conspirasies like GOP politicians tell you your jobs were "stolen."
Sold by their owners for greed.
You can thank Hartly Peavey for destroying his own.
PV has always been the "Kmart blue light special" of music.
0.00 Fucks given.
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WizardAmpIphoneClip
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Marshall is Chinese now too
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BenoA
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@shar-vell Dan well said. Greed-ization and MBA-ization has been the trend for some years in many industries
Floyd Eye
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I would submit John Fields.
The problem with selling your intellectual "property" to China is China owns it after you do that.
Like so many US companies the last 50 yrs+ the owners sold out. No conspirasies like GOP politicians tell you your jobs were "stolen."
Sold by their owners for greed.
You can thank Hartly Peavey for destroying his own.
PV has always been the "Kmart blue light special" of music.
0.00 Fucks given.
You’re an idiot. Yeah it’s greed, but it was encouraged by the government. Both parties. And dumbasses like you are totally willing to let it continue and even defend it. I’m sure you’d change your mind if it was Kamala tariffing their ass.
Anyway, those old Mark IVs and Musicians were anemic as fuck but his damn they were cheap. And you could toss it off your roof and it’d still work.
Speeddemon
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Quite peculiar that you read THAT in Dan's message, or is it just you making this unneccesssary political because you disagree with other stuff he said? If the latter, please keep it on topic here without politics, mkay?
He makes a valid point and everyone (regardless of party affiliation) has seen this in all kinds of businesses... The original owners -with a great business idea and good sales- eventually sell the company to cash in, but whatever happens afterwards is out of their hands and usually -as history can tell you- seldom for the better. Either cheaper materials are suddenly being used, or other corners are suddenly cut from what made the original product stand out in the first place.
And IIRC, the Undercover Boss episode already showed what kind of man Hartley was...
Oh well, my Bandit 112 served me well in my late teens and early 20's. Blew the Sheffield speaker once in my 1st deathmetal band playing way too loud, got a new T75 in there (in the late 90's, so what did we know, right? ) Too bad they (=Peavey) went where they went.
One wolf in sheep's clothes was their Classic 50; played it in different rehearsal spaces; really nice gain channel next to the pristine cleans with character.
Techdeth
RESIDENT ROCK PROFESSOR
Well look . This happened in society where few hundred years . Manufactures of stuff get greedy and their mech gets worse as they charge more . Though it will cost more for merch only small builders who care will eventually make better products and society shifts back to buying more quality again . We are seeing that faster with amps becasue it’s being deemed outdated . Too younger people especially . I watched a documentary on this . And peavey committed a sin we hate . Killed jobs and built cheaper product to save . We are seeing it in realtime
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Nigel
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Still got a Transtube Studio Pro 112, still rocks. It’s been upgraded with a Peavey Scorpion 12. Killer rock/metal tone. Holds its own with a 5150 and Marshall 1960AV at practice.
Now I use it as a wet amp for stereo tone run off the padded speaker out of another amp with delay and modulation FX. Clean, musical power.
Now I use it as a wet amp for stereo tone run off the padded speaker out of another amp with delay and modulation FX. Clean, musical power.
cardinal
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To me it seems odd that the current economic system relies on growth. It's not sufficient to just be successful (making a healthy profit); a company has to be more successful than it was before. Otherwise the investment doesn't return enough; the 401Ks won't grow and retirement saving will collapse etc. (401Ks can't stay flat given inflation). Seems like a bad system.
But companies like Peavey I think get stuck. They have to sell out to cheaper manufacturing to try to be ever more profitable or are vulnerable to a take over if they "merely" stay successful.
But companies like Peavey I think get stuck. They have to sell out to cheaper manufacturing to try to be ever more profitable or are vulnerable to a take over if they "merely" stay successful.
romanianreaper
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Yeah people definitely shouldn't make this political. I'm in my mid 50s and I have seen so many changes over the years. If we knew back then what we know now, obviously our country wouldn't have made some of these deals (both parties).
Compared to other countries, people make a decent wage here. When you have people making items for way cheaper than a business here, you can't compete.
Compared to other countries, people make a decent wage here. When you have people making items for way cheaper than a business here, you can't compete.
TheGreatGreen
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My first amp, like so many of our first amps I'm sure, was a silver stripe Peavey Blazer 158. A Rage 158 with reverb, basically. For my next amp, I moved up to the big leagues. A silver stripe Peavey Bandit. That bad boy had a 12 inch speaker in it, so you knew it could rock. That thing carried me through a handful of bands in high school. It was a real trooper.
A couple years back, I picked up a Peavey Transtube Supreme head, literally just a silver stripe Bandit with the chassis turned upside down and put in head format. It's just fun as I remember.
It's a real shame Peavey has been run into the ground by its dumbass ownership.
A couple years back, I picked up a Peavey Transtube Supreme head, literally just a silver stripe Bandit with the chassis turned upside down and put in head format. It's just fun as I remember.
It's a real shame Peavey has been run into the ground by its dumbass ownership.
Floyd Eye
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You mean this ?
"Like so many US companies the last 50 yrs+ the owners sold out. No conspirasies like GOP politicians tell you your jobs were "stolen." "
Kinda odd you didn't. Also, you can take your plea, telling me what to do and stick it up your ass. Mkay.
GreatRedDragon
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It's so crazy to me that fuckin Peavey of all things is responsible for one of the cornerstones of metal tones. To let EVH slip through their fingers and go to Fender is crazy to think now. It's only through EVH that Fender, the root of all guitar amps, finally made a credible and very successful player in the metal amp scene.
Has anyone done as well as Fender has in terms of acquisitions? Gibson tries but...
Has anyone done as well as Fender has in terms of acquisitions? Gibson tries but...
skoora
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In the video, when they talk about the smiles of people coming in the booth. Well nostalgia does that. But to make that translate into actuaL sales and moving these good feelings from a store into someone’s jam room or home is another thing. I’ve read that there’s a bit of a revival of kids wanting to jam in a room again, which could be something that Peavey could try and tap into.
Even though in the 90’s I had a Rage 158 as a little practice amp, I never cared for Peavey solid state guitar amps. Worked at a dealer in the 90’s and the Transtube stuff was just OK, nothing great. Their old, SS bass heads, from the late 70’s, early 80’s are cool.
I will say I thought the higher end basses they were making back then (90’s) were really good, I forget their name. Lot of natural finishes, showing the wood, competing with Warwick and Tobias.
I think they made a lot of good tube amps, one defining a genre for a good minute.
There P.A. gear was great for the price. Rarely failed.
Even though in the 90’s I had a Rage 158 as a little practice amp, I never cared for Peavey solid state guitar amps. Worked at a dealer in the 90’s and the Transtube stuff was just OK, nothing great. Their old, SS bass heads, from the late 70’s, early 80’s are cool.
I will say I thought the higher end basses they were making back then (90’s) were really good, I forget their name. Lot of natural finishes, showing the wood, competing with Warwick and Tobias.
I think they made a lot of good tube amps, one defining a genre for a good minute.
There P.A. gear was great for the price. Rarely failed.
rsm
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I'm thankful Peavey managed to "save" Trace Elliot, though a very pale shadow of what it once was. I have a Transit B which is my main bass rig, unless I want to get my vintage Trace Elliot MP11 out of storage. I regret selling my GP12 SMX Preamp
The~Kid
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It would be cool if they made the 6505 and 6505+ in America/USA again 
Im pretty sure they wouldn't be able to make them fast enough.......people would be buying those up vs a lot of stuff on the market if they did.
Im pretty sure they wouldn't be able to make them fast enough.......people would be buying those up vs a lot of stuff on the market if they did.
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harddriver
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American companies moved production out of the US to increase their profits exactly as Ross Perot warned the American workers prior to the passage of NAFTA. This was passed by the Uniparty and the US hemorrhaged manufacturing jobs from 1994 onward. I don't agree with Charvel Dan on much but he is correct about greed driving the loss of manufacturing in the USA.
