What is going on with the industry???

[Findthetone1]

Suhr there have been. But couldn't they give you a case? I will never let the no case thing die.

I'm with you 100%

 

[BeZo]

I priced out a new Spector a year or so ago. You guys think Suhrs are expensive!

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

That's the point. If people aren't willing to pay that much, they either lower the prices or go out of business. It's self correcting.

Unlike with budget level instruments, the manufacturing cost isn't as crucial. Companies like these aren't building to a budget and figuring out how much they need to sell it for so they can make their minimum profit. These guys are pricing stuff as high as they can get away with because why not.

How many guitars do they sell ? Is this their bread butter??? This isn’t the Viking guy from Denmarks brand is it???

Anybody wanna play chess?

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

I priced out a new Spector a year or so ago. You guys think Suhrs are expensive!

Spector makes a superior product.

 

[DanTravis62]

That's the point. If people aren't willing to pay that much, they either lower the prices or go out of business. It's self correcting.

Unlike with budget level instruments, the manufacturing cost isn't as crucial. Companies like these aren't building to a budget and figuring out how much they need to sell it for so they can make their minimum profit. These guys are pricing stuff as high as they can get away with because why not.

Let's fucking hope they learn this lesson, because prices have been ballooning in guitar for almost a decade now

 

[skoora]

I really wouldn’t give this a second thought when I could just get a double hum, Mexi Tele and have it well setup. With the price difference I could afford a few pickup swaps to dial it in, a nice gold refin and a deluxe hard case and a used Les Paul.

 

[BABMusic]

It is kind of weird how more people are making a living reviewing amps or guitars for a few days or months than the guitarists playing gigs or recording for a living.

 

[BeZo]

Spector makes a superior product.

Oh, I know. I bought two a decade ago for what they want for one now.

 

[Beyond Black]

$4300 for a bolt on with a plain ass paint job? GTFO

 

[Geo]

In 2 years it will be 6k.

It's called inflation.

 

[BABMusic]

Or they will just move production to a different location and keep it at 4K.

 

[HellraiserJohnny]

They charge what people are willing to pay. So I guess there's enough people willing to pay these prices otherwise they'd be out of business.

I certainly wouldn't pay that much for a guitar,

BINGO! From my point of view (IMHO) Gibson started the whole "Let's see what they will pay?" thing with guitars. It was about what the "Gibson" name meant to the public and what they will pay for it. It had nothing to do with the quality of the instruments. IMO, (at Gibson) quality of the materials and the workmanship went down as the prices went up. We bought it (myself included) . . . Hook, Line and Sinker.
So now everyone does it . . . (Let's see what we can get away with?!?!?!?). It's really up to the consumer of the product.

 

[rsm]

I priced out a new Spector a year or so ago. You guys think Suhrs are expensive!

I was pricing a custom, 4-string fretless bass with only a piezo bridge and it was $4K - $5K. I got my Ibanez SR700F in shitburst for about $1K instead.

 

[stratjacket]

Well a few months ago PRS did some layoffs. Not sure how many, I’ve seen some posts say about 30 people. Here they are talking about it.

 

[67mike]

Madness.

 

[Findthetone1]

Or they will just move production to a different location and keep it at 4K.

I appreciate them staying in the US and understand there will be a cost difference. I'd just like to know where a fair price ends and price gouging begins.
They outsource production and it just becomes another cookie cutter guitar company.

 

[lol]

I appreciate them staying in the US and understand there will be a cost difference. I'd just like to know where a fair price ends and price gouging begins.
They outsource production and it just becomes another cookie cutter guitar company.

I thought it was interesting that the Suhr Peter frampton signature amp costs $3100 but is “assembled in the USA.” Isn’t that just fancy talk for “everything is outsourced and just thrown together in the US”??

 

[cobrahead1030]

Inflation. It costs a lot to build guitars in the US. Those workers that could get by on $20/hour a few years ago, need $35 to make a decent living now.

Add in shopping for a premium product, you’re not getting out cheap.

 

[Killcrop]

That is a lot of money for an ugly guitar.

 

[technomancer]

I thought it was interesting that the Suhr Peter frampton signature amp costs $3100 but is “assembled in the USA.” Isn’t that just fancy talk for “everything is outsourced and just thrown together in the US”??

This again? CA law restricts using made in USA if there are non US components. If you're not aware, amp components are pretty much not made in the USA (resistors, capacitors, pots, tubes, etc) therefore if you're selling an amp in California you can't use made in usa on it. Same thing applies to guitars since most hardware and wood is imported from overseas or from Canada.