What the hell is going on here?

[johnnyjellybean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxI2Lrj0yqU

What the hell is that all about? That drummer freaking floors me, then the guitar and bass come in and I think it's one of those parody "*** jams" videos. Is this real? What the hell is that guitar player thinking?

Chris

That drummer sounds like a pair of tennis shoes in a dryer!

+1

He totally blows

 

[K Odell]

i like this guy.

He's trying to do something random and innovative at the same time. Yes it's fucked up, but I like it

It's like dillinger escape plan, in a single guitarist.

Except for not at all.

I just cant get into this stuff. I don't get it and I will be honest.....I don't want to "get it"

 

[LordOVchaoS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxI2Lrj0yqU

What the hell is that all about? That drummer freaking floors me, then the guitar and bass come in and I think it's one of those parody "*** jams" videos. Is this real? What the hell is that guitar player thinking?

Chris

Am I the only one who thinks the drummer sounds "Jam video" worthy too?

 

[jessexxx]

so if the dude played some scales..he would be good?...and if he played them fast he would be brilliant!..and !! and!!!!..if he had eyeliner and spandex!!...woooo whoooo!!...

are we all just sheep??...playing the same scales..the same way,..with the same rules???

"do what you've aways done-get what you've always gotten"

for those that dont get it,..i'll speak in your native tongue!!....bbbbaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

 

[Valtiel]

so if the dude played some scales..he would be good?...and if he played them fast he would be brilliant!..and !! and!!!!..if he had eyeliner and spandex!!...woooo whoooo!!...

are we all just sheep??...playing the same scales..the same way,..with the same rules???

"do what you've aways done-get what you've always gotten"

for those that dont get it,..i'll speak in your native tongue!!....bbbbaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

This coming from the guy with the XXX and the Les Paul Gothic.

 

[jasonP]

so if the dude played some scales..he would be good?...and if he played them fast he would be brilliant!..and !! and!!!!..if he had eyeliner and spandex!!...woooo whoooo!!...

are we all just sheep??...playing the same scales..the same way,..with the same rules???

"do what you've aways done-get what you've always gotten"

for those that dont get it,..i'll speak in your native tongue!!....bbbbaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

dude it sounds like total utter trashy shit.

 

[Bob Savage]

If some of you guys think hitting every single wrong sour note on the fretboard is a good thing, why even learn how to play? I mean, anyone can hit every wrong note.

Actually, hitting every note wrong is more of a fine art. Hitting many wrong is easy.

 

[Bob Savage]

I was being serious when I said I thought the drummer (Freddy Krueger) was killer. The good stuff starts around the 30 second mark.

Looks like i may be alone on that! LOL

I think the drummer is fine, it's the drum sound on the video that's terrible.

 

[stephen sawall]

I need to master this style.
That way when the wave comes thru I well be a step up.
This is the future.

 

[Bad Brad]

I could dig that on a couple of mushrooms.

 

[ericb]

If some of you guys think hitting every single wrong sour note on the fretboard is a good thing, why even learn how to play? I mean, anyone can hit every wrong note.

Actually, hitting every note wrong is more of a fine art. Hitting many wrong is easy.

That's so funny!!! I can so relate... I was raised playing styles of Hendrix, Travers, Santana, Kiss, Clapton,etc.... Then I got into some really strange new wave and/or punk bands. I couldn't play like them for the life of me.. .

My 1st all original band , I had to try EVERYTHING not to play blues/rock cliche riffs ever. .

I ended up trying to play every wrong note, sort of like what Kaiser was doing , or like Bob was saying. . It's frickin hard to COMPLETELY ABANDON your playing style... I think guys like Ed Degenero could do it and sound incredible .. . Same with Robert Fripp,etc. .. . . but for some of us it's damn hard! lol


Eric

 

[ericb]

Actually, hitting every note wrong is more of a fine art. Hitting many wrong is easy.

LOL, true! I think this guy must've had his scale book upside down or something when he learned them.

SIdeways!!

Eric

 

[rsm]

In high school, I played in jazz band. We did some real interesting things (I enjoyed the 30's - 40's big band swing best, personally), but the band director used to make us play some weird avant garde strange too. We'd be in practice and he'd say, "I've got something new I want you to try..." and hand out the music to us. 9 outta 10 times it would be something that sounded like this guy's stuff...but we had horns, saxes and woodwinds on top of the rhythm section (piano, bass, drums, percussion, 2 guitars (FWIW, I was second guitar junior year, first guitar senior year). There was one piece I remember (don't know the name or who wrote it - blocked that out) were I played maybe 20 bars, if that, over the whole 30 minute song - of what seemed like random notes...every instrument in the whole band did similar. There would be random weird notes and noises and phrases coming from all over the room, I spent most of my time on the song counting out rests with random time signature changes, and trying not to burst out laughing at how bad this sounded to me and not lose count (so I wouldn't miss that one quarter note I had to play after 45 bars of rest ).

Well, these videos remind me of those avant garde sight reading experiments in high school jazz band.

This avant garde stuff isn't for me. But if this guy plays music other people dig, good for him. If he can make a living from it, all power to him - wish I could play music for a living. Good is in the ear of the listener IMO.

 

[JTyson]

I was being serious when I said I thought the drummer (Freddy Krueger) was killer. The good stuff starts around the 30 second mark.

Looks like i may be alone on that! LOL

I think the drummer is fine, it's the drum sound on the video that's terrible.

+1

 

[degenaro]

those videos have been around for awhile, the worse part is he knows alexander dumble who jams with him and he owns and plays dumble amplifiers, what a waste, you can't even touch a dumble for less then $30,000.00 and this dude probably has a few of them, I hate avante gaarde music, it's just another word for I can't play

Sorry, but you have no clue about Henry...yeah, he can go way out into weird central, but I've sat enough with him that I know it's by choice and mosdef not by lack of ability to play conventional stuff. About you being envious about him having choice gear...maybe you shoulda bought Dumbles when they were a grand instead of a couple 80s shred planks.

 

[degenaro]

If some of you guys think hitting ev muchery single wrong sour note on the fretboard is a good thing, why even learn how to play? I mean, anyone can hit every wrong note.

t

Actually, hitting every note wrong is more of a fine art. Hitting many wrong is easy.

That's so funny!!! I can so relate... I was raised playing styles of Hendrix, Travers, Santana, Kiss, Clapton,etc.... Then I got into some really strange new wave and/or punk bands. I couldn't play like them for the life of me.. .

My 1st all original band , I had to try EVERYTHING not to play blues/rock cliche riffs ever. .

I ended up trying to play every wrong note, sort of like what Kaiser was doing , or like Bob was saying. . It's frickin hard to COMPLETELY ABANDON your playing style... I think guys like Ed Degenero could do it and sound incredible .. . Same with Robert Fripp,etc. .. . . but for some of us it's damn hard! lol


Eric

I guess it's all a matter of what's wrong notes. When you can make A# over A work, then there isn't much that can be called wrong.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

Aren't those videos overdubbed spoofs??? Seriously...I think they are

 

[ericb]

If some of you guys think hitting ev muchery single wrong sour note on the fretboard is a good thing, why even learn how to play? I mean, anyone can hit every wrong note.

t

Actually, hitting every note wrong is more of a fine art. Hitting many wrong is easy.

That's so funny!!! I can so relate... I was raised playing styles of Hendrix, Travers, Santana, Kiss, Clapton,etc.... Then I got into some really strange new wave and/or punk bands. I couldn't play like them for the life of me.. .

My 1st all original band , I had to try EVERYTHING not to play blues/rock cliche riffs ever. .

I ended up trying to play every wrong note, sort of like what Kaiser was doing , or like Bob was saying. . It's frickin hard to COMPLETELY ABANDON your playing style... I think guys like Ed Degenero could do it and sound incredible .. . Same with Robert Fripp,etc. .. . . but for some of us it's damn hard! lol


Eric

I guess it's all a matter of what's wrong notes. When you can make A# over A work, then there isn't much that can be called wrong.

VERY TRUE... What I'm really getting at is some of us have an 'engrained' style. . Some people play that 'style' 100% of the time . .I know many guitarists like that.

I tried for many years and still do to abandon my style or expand it or whatever. I don't take lessons and have a hard time getting influenced by new guys. .SO I purposely have to try to play very differently than I do to hit "DIFFERENT" notes (or where I was saying above "WRONG NOTES" .. I do ok at it, but mostly I need to play with other musicians who are creative in order to really get into abandoning my 70's guitar style! Personally I really hate listening to people who play the same damn style over and over , so I like the 'different' stuff. But I can see where many people wouldn't like Kaiser-esque guitar that's for sure!

As for the drummer.. .Well I wasn't too impressed. He was ok.. I'm lucky and have played with killer drummers in Vt!
Eric

 

[IHateRap]

Diminishing results with regards to creativity, perhaps?

 

[Mudder]

If it sounds bad, it sounds bad regardless which notes you're playing. I've been listening to some music lately that is dissonant, off time, all out of kilter, like David Torn and Craig Taborn, and it's rough for the first bit, then you sort of get a vibe for it.

That Kaiser stuff, to me, simply sounds bad.