Who's NOT jumping on the Kemper wagon?

[Steinmetzify]

Nope.....I think it's a cool idea and the sounds I've heard are great, but the longer I play the more I realize I only need 2 tones...low mid voiced brootz and a nice woody neck tone. I can get that out of pretty much any high gain amp. Just no need.

 

[Atropos_Project]

Amps for me until my living situation demands that I have a quieter alternative.

 

[jlbaxe]

I luv the tones I get out of the Axe II and Pod Pro HD but to me they can't replace a tube amp. There is just something about glass and the sonic reaction of guitar/amp along with just having a tube amp, knobs and speaker cab that just appeals to me. Maybe I am just old school but nothing like amps and cab stacked behind a guitar player that says raw rock and roll.

 

[Rogue]

Not me. I've compared it to miced cab and the miced cab just had that extra bit of warmth or organic quality. Going through high end monitors made it sound hifi-ish and sort of normalized all tones.

For some quiet direct recording, it's going to be hard to beat. I've got the Two Notes thing going for that and it's adequate enough.

So my trusty old loud assed amp for me.

 

[ejecta]

Yeah!!!!! Screw those lemming shitty tone lovin Kemper guys. I'm so cool in my tube hugging narrow mindedness. Who's with me?

These forums never cease to entertain.

I think a mic'd tube amp sounds better but it's hard to beat a good modeler for certain situations. Right tool for the right job and all. I don't see why it has to be a one or the other thing...... especially if your funds will allow.

 

[dooredge]

While not the same as a Kemper or a CultFx, I had a BOSS GT3 years ago. I could never get past having to select patches, tweak patches, let alone FIND a patch that suited me. I gave up on digital modelers a long time ago. While I think the new technology is great and quite advanced, I just won't ever go there. I love tube amps. For me there's nothing like seeing the glass light up and the resulting power that comes from a killer hi-gain amp. I'd rather own 100 tube amps than one digital modeler that can almost cover them all.

 

[ejecta]

Going through high end monitors made it sound hifi-ish and sort of normalized all tones.

Weird. I found I like my Brixton mic'd through those speakers we used along with hearing the cab over just the cab alone. Not sure it made the Brixton sound hi-fi. That just may be the nature of modelers. I will also say that the all tones in Kemper don't really "normalize" like I feel the AxeFX tones do.

 

[Rogue]

Weird. I found I like my Brixton mic'd through those speakers we used along with hearing the cab over just the cab alone. Not sure it made the Brixton sound hi-fi. That just may be the nature of modelers. I will also say that the all tones in Kemper don't really "normalize" like I feel the AxeFX tones do.

I think any monitors, regardless of how "flat" they are claimed to be and no matter how much a dick Jay Bitchell wants to be, they tend to put their own signature on the tone. Similarly the way a particular cabinet imparts it's own signature characteristic to other amps. Then add in how a person sounds like themselves through different amps plus they tend to dial in amps to sound like they like, you get a normalization across all models. The biggest difference of course being the basic cleans, crunch, and lead type tones.

I did feel like the times we listened to stuff through the maudios, things sounded more different. Clips I listen to online sound different, but when through the sound pod, it all had a sameness to it. More low end and top end with a hifi-ish kind of thing. I'm sure it's from the monitors. Nothing wrong with that, of course. It sounded cool.

 

[1big1]

don't have the budget for one. even if i did i still have a few other projects i'd rather get done first.

 

[rupe]

I've considered it and almost took the leap but came to the realization that I currently have no need for it...I like my current lineup of amps a lot. Perhaps if I start doing more recording down the road I'll look into it, but for now I'm happy with what I have.

 

[japetus]

I have no need for it. I use an old Fender Bassman, with a few OD pedals if I need them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[ejecta]

Weird. I found I like my Brixton mic'd through those speakers we used along with hearing the cab over just the cab alone. Not sure it made the Brixton sound hi-fi. That just may be the nature of modelers. I will also say that the all tones in Kemper don't really "normalize" like I feel the AxeFX tones do.

I think any monitors, regardless of how "flat" they are claimed to be and no matter how much a dick Jay Bitchell wants to be, they tend to put their own signature on the tone. Similarly the way a particular cabinet imparts it's own signature characteristic to other amps. Then add in how a person sounds like themselves through different amps plus they tend to dial in amps to sound like they like, you get a normalization across all models. The biggest difference of course being the basic cleans, crunch, and lead type tones.

I did feel like the times we listened to stuff through the maudios, things sounded more different. Clips I listen to online sound different, but when through the sound pod, it all had a sameness to it. More low end and top end with a hifi-ish kind of thing. I'm sure it's from the monitors. Nothing wrong with that, of course. It sounded cool.

Ahhhh I get what your are saying. True.

 

[Rogue]

I've considered it and almost took the leap but came to the realization that I currently have no need for it...I like my current lineup of amps a lot. Perhaps if I start doing more recording down the road I'll look into it, but for now I'm happy with what I have.

Did you decide to pick up anything from Two-Notes?

 

[fluff191]

Yeah I am def. not jumping on that wagon either.

 

[Jdguitar]

I'm out. I have everything I need in my MTS and working on improving my playing instead of researching Kempers.

 

[Ventura]

I'm in for the 3U model KPA when it comes available. I'll give it an honest shot. From a sheer "specs" point of view, I don't think the KPA offers as much to the consumer as the Axe-II does - strictly from a technological point of view. But this is - really - where the whole debate, fervor, action, interest, and opinionated online bashfests stem from... Technology versus musicality. These two domains are really different, and since the line-of-division has blurred as of late, it's spillover from one camp to the other that's really getting things heated (IMHO). But my guess is the KPA is less tech at face value, and easier to "play" than the A2, this is why it appeals. The A2 is way deeper, and therefore, proclivity to not leave well enough alone, too great.

In the end, if the Axe-II doesn't live up to my ears' expectations with the new CLRs incoming; and the KPA doesn't make me go wow, I'm closing the book on 'em and just sticking to my heads and cabs and playing. Rock and roll doesn't have the word "firmware" in it. Not in my book anyway

 

[rupe]

I've considered it and almost took the leap but came to the realization that I currently have no need for it...I like my current lineup of amps a lot. Perhaps if I start doing more recording down the road I'll look into it, but for now I'm happy with what I have.

Did you decide to pick up anything from Two-Notes?

I'm holding off on that for now as well. I'm gonna rely more on my plexi-glass panels and low efficiency speakers for stage volume issues and see that works before throwing more $$$ at the problem.

 

[rocknrolla]

Modelers are cool but for what I play I really only need a two channel amp.

 

[blackba]

I forgot to mention too, that I would really like to see a Kemper that is rack mountable.

 

[Mailman1971]

I would jump on the Kemper bandwagon, but I don't have the funds to do so or a real need (not like that has stopped me from buying gear before).

I couldnt of worded that better myself.