Analog reverb options....

[VonBonfire]

Just put the tanks back in if that's what you want the real deal. They are not that heavy.

I tell myself a 94lbs twin without the tank in it "isn't that heavy" but my back has disputed that claim some nights so I usually carry the 80lbs version instead, LOL. I might wind up taking your recommendation I just gotta see what kinda money I end up having to work with. I do like the idea of a Waynzo built reverb unit I just don't know if I'll have that kinda dough to blow.

 

[Shask]

That sounds good and all but looking at the website it talks about milliseconds of delay...so it's a delay....I have a J Rockett Alien Echo that also uses the same chip as that pedal. It was less harsh than the Mercury 7 but still ruined my sound in that same upper register to a degree I didn't wanna use it so I gave it to the old lady for her board.

It has a long pre-delay so it can do the super long droney thing. You can turn that down to zero though.

 

[ners]

Didn't read this big thread, but I've got the Surfybear rack spring reverb and it sounds pretty great.

The usability is a little annoying, I had to buy a loop switcher to be able to control it from my pedal board.

 

[Geo]

Keep an eye out here;

https://larkstreet.com/cgi-bin/stock.cgi#Other

He has sold quite a few of the Fender tanks in the past and is reputable.

 

[griff10672]

I tell myself a 94lbs twin without the tank in it "isn't that heavy" but my back has disputed that claim some nights so I usually carry the 80lbs version instead, LOL. I might wind up taking your recommendation I just gotta see what kinda money I end up having to work with. I do like the idea of a Waynzo built reverb unit I just don't know if I'll have that kinda dough to blow.

Yeah I started pricing one out ..... you'd be looking at least 1000 and that's with me only charging like 200 to build it ...

that 630 price is pretty spot on for the mojo kit .... the only place I could save you some cash really is on the headshell for it ....

 

[CDawg]

If you go back and read some of my posts (don't bother, lol) you'll see I always mention it as harshness in the highs especially with volume and gain. Yes, like the upper harmonic series was getting screwed up or something, which made it sound harsh. The bass and mids were fine, so were clean tones generally, but the tell for me was always in the driven highs. I don't think my hearing is exceptional but I am used to certain behaviors from my amp since it's been over a decade I been using twins now so maybe it was sensitivity towards minute changes.

I know it's not a pedal and they don't use pedals but it fits into the same category and does the same thing. Video could be condensed but it's the best I've seen on the subject. He's not giving critical information such as frequency ranges. It doesn't affect the whole audio spectrum but in ranges as you mentioned. He's also not telling you what other components besides cabling affect this or how to put everything together in a meaningful and musical way. Complex subject and very INDIVIDUALIZED because of component and gear choices but it relates to almost everything.

You probably have hearing damage but I still think your listening skills are exceptional from the things you say.

 

[CDawg]

When it happens, it's pretty obvious. I used an Earthquaker Devices Transmisser a lot because it's a really unique reverb that can't be replicated with analog gear. It's a long, warbley reverb that can't be set to subtle that you use for soundscapes. With my bass rig, my outputs on my buffer and my compressor were too high, and it got snarley on the top end. I thought it was broken. Going through the gain staging fixed the issue.

As long as the gain staging is set right, you shouldn't have any issues mixing digital and analog. If you smack the digital too much, it can get unruly.

If you want the original reverb sound, use original reverb tools. Digital is just so much more versatile that analog doesn't even seem worth it to me anymore. I can't do the reverb tricks with the tanks in my amp. Not to mention, nobody is dragging around a fucking plate.

I'll look into that Earthquaker Devices Transmisser but that would make sense. I never tried a reverb pedal until a few years ago and now I love them.

 

[Geo]

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I know it's not a pedal and they don't use pedals but it fits into the same category and does the same thing. Video could be condensed but it's the best I've seen on the subject. He's not giving critical information such as frequency ranges. It doesn't affect the whole audio spectrum but in ranges as you mentioned. He's also not telling you what other components besides cabling affect this or how to put everything together in a meaningful and musical way. Complex subject and very INDIVIDUALIZED because of component and gear choices but it relates to almost everything.

You probably have hearing damage but I still think your listening skills are exceptional from the things you say.

Cables make a huge difference when using my Z Verb and anytime going in and out of an effects loop.

I buy the best Mogami cable sold in the USA and make my own cables. It's easy and way less expensive than buying pre-made cables.

 

[VonBonfire]

Yeah I started pricing one out ..... you'd be looking at least 1000 and that's with me only charging like 200 to build it ...

that 630 price is pretty spot on for the mojo kit .... the only place I could save you some cash really is on the headshell for it ....

That's steep and then Waynzo still don't make any money. I have lots of time to consider my options at my current cash flow rate, lol.

 

[CDawg]

Cables make a huge difference when using my Z Verb and anytime going in and out of an effects loop.

I buy the best Mogami cable sold in the USA and make my own cables. It's easy and way less expensive than buying pre-made cables.

Agreed cables can make a huge difference. I think there's an important interaction between cables and tubes. What kind of tubes do you have in V1 and V2 of your amplifiers?

Which specific cable and jacks do you use? A few years ago I bought Mogami Overdrive speaker cables and an instrument cable. Made George L myself before that and that's what my pedalboard is. I mostly play guitar > amp.

 

[Geo]

Agreed cables can make a huge difference. I think there's an important interaction between cables and tubes. What kind of tubes do you have in V1 and V2 of your amplifiers?

Which specific cable and jacks do you use? A few years ago I bought Mogami Overdrive speaker cables and an instrument cable. Made George L myself before that and that's what my pedalboard is. I mostly play guitar > amp.

I had a friend that would scavenge old electronics for the tubes. He gave me a box of old 12AX7's and I just go by ear.

The cable I use is the Mogami W2524.

https://www.redco.com/Mogami-W2524.html

And I use the Amphenol plugs

https://www.redco.com/Amphenol-TM2PBJ-AU-Cable-Mount-Male-TS-Black-Gold-Heavy-Duty.html

 

[VonBonfire]

I had a friend that would scavenge old electronics for the tubes.

What's sad is those old smaller Hammond organs often sell for less money than the tubes inside them would bring by themselves. I had a nice L-102 that had a pile of nice vintage tubes in it but I sold it cause it sat mostly unused and I was moving. I'd love to have an M-3, as it's known as the Baby B-3 I just don't really have the space for it.

 

[Music&Chaos]

I'm definitely not into versatility, just tonal excellence, which is what analog gear excels at.

This has become the way for me as well.

 

[Music&Chaos]

Cables make a huge difference when using my Z Verb and anytime going in and out of an effects loop.

I buy the best Mogami cable sold in the USA and make my own cables. It's easy and way less expensive than buying pre-made cables.

I much prefer my best-tronics cables over my mogami. The mogamis have just been sitting in a bag ever since building the BTs .

 

[Geo]

I much prefer my best-tronics cables over my mogami. The mogamis have just been sitting in a bag ever since building the BTs .

Never tried BT but I know my Mogami cables work and I can make a 12' cable for under $20.

 

[Music&Chaos]

I was all digital and all about everything trying to be the best at everything. I made a swap to my Rivera through a series of what seemed to be unfortunate events at the time - God is good to me! I was just direct into amp from then forward almost all the time until recently grabbing the Griffin Analog and a couple Strymon. Analog pure goodness. I know the Strymon are only analog path but still, they are nice to use. I dont even like buffers tbh lol

 

[Music&Chaos]

Never tried BT but I know my Mogami cables work and I can make a 12' cable for under $20.

The best tronics is lower priced than the mogami if I recall and performed better in my testing. I am very frugal, I also make all of my own cables.

 

[BeZo]

I thought Best-Tronics uses Mogami cables?

 

[Music&Chaos]

I thought Best-Tronics uses Mogami cables?

No, BTPA makes their own cables. Im sure they sell mogami as well though.

 

[VonBonfire]

The best tronics is lower priced than the mogami if I recall and performed better in my testing. I am very frugal, I also make all of my own cables.

I might have to look into those. All my cables take a pounding at gigs. One of the guys in the band seems to use them for target practice with his foot, LOL. Lately been using Dimarzio and Ernie Ball cables and E.B jumpers on my board. I had a Mogami but I never noticed a whole lot of difference in them tbh. The best cables I had were George L's but they were a pain in the ass, and an old coily cable that, believe it or not, retained as many highs when I a/b'ed it against the George L's. I had cut and repaired the ends so many times they were only about two inches long on the straight part so I retired it.