Analog reverb options....

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Tank:
I foolishly sold my old Fender RI 6g15 tank about 12 or 13 years ago....shouldn't have done that as they are running 700-800 bucks now. It was kind of a hassle to carry, like toting a second amp to gigs, but the sound was unbeatable. I kinda like the no compromise approach but the last time the additional hassle had me leaving it at home more often than not so I'd have to renew my commitment to using it at that price.

Amp:
I haven't found the Twin Reverb's built-in unit all that great so I removed the tanks to save weight but I could reinstall. Stock, it either washes out the pick attack, or isn't there i.e the mix control is way to sensitive and is tough to get just right, plus the cables that go from the tank into the back of the amp are often a fail point in a lot of cases. The lack of a dwell control sucks and of course there isn't a tone knob for it either. I thought about giving it another shot with a tube swap, as supposedly subbing a 12au7 helps reduce the onslaught of washed-out tones but I also considered talking to my tech about modding it for a dwell knob. I could have the amp serviced while it was in for mods so two birds with one stone....

Boxes:
Spaceman Orion. I have had good luck with the Spaceman designs and it's fairly straightforward although it's also about half the cost of a RI tank. It's been discontinued though so if it needs work that could present a problem. Spaceman stated he put more work into it than any of his other pedals so it's tempting.

Echo Fix spring reverb. Around the same price as a used Orion. Seems to sound good and have good reviews but I only recently stumbled across it.

Gamechanger light pedal. Around the same price as the other pedals. I've tried it as the other guy in my band has one, and it is a nice sounding unit but has a lot of crap on it I don't really need.

Anything else I should consider? BTW digital isn't an option. I sold a Meris Mercury 7 cause while it was lush and juicy with clean tones it harshed my analog mellow with gain, just like all my other experiences with digital stuff. I've just started looking cause it will take some time to put together the dough. Anyone got any other input or experiences they could share?
 
Well, if cost wasn't an issue, I'd say the Victoria Reverberato. That's pretty pricey, though.

Honestly, though, I think modding your Twin's circuit is probably the easiest and cheapest to remain analog. I've experimented with various tanks, 2-spring vs 3-spring, short/medium/long decay, playing around with input/output impedance, AU7 vs AT7 vs AX7 vs AY7, etc. Adding a Dwell and a Tone knob are pretty simple mods, too. Best reverb I have right now is a '73 Pro Reverb. Don't remember what I put in it, but probably a 3-spring medium decay tank and a US NOS AT7. Other than replacing the electrolytics, the rest of the circuit is stock. I actually like it better than my 6G15 RI, but not by much.
 
Hire a guy like me to build you a old Fender stand alone unit ..... just as much as a amp though or close to it

as far as real deal analog Spring Reverb Floor Units ......... they are very few and far between .......... the Gamechanger Light pedal was the one for me .... I don't use all the extra stuff and just mainly use the Spring reverb on it . but all the fun stuff is there in case I go to hard on the Indica and want to stare at my sneakers while making weird noises
 
Well, if cost wasn't an issue, I'd say the Victoria Reverberato. That's pretty pricey, though.
Cost isn't an issue, but THAT kinda cost would be an issue, LOL. I also looked at the Benson Tall Bird which sounds amazing but also is pushing the 2k mark. There are a few nice tanks over the 1k mark used. The one upside to the tank is if it has issues I can drop it off rather than dropping off the entire amp. I'll have to see what kinda $ I have to play with in the upcoming months but anything over a grand is a bridge too far for this boy...

Honestly, though, I think modding your Twin's circuit is probably the easiest and cheapest to remain analog. I've experimented with various tanks, 2-spring vs 3-spring, short/medium/long decay, playing around with input/output impedance, AU7 vs AT7 vs AX7 vs AY7, etc. Adding a Dwell and a Tone knob are pretty simple mods, too. Best reverb I have right now is a '73 Pro Reverb. Don't remember what I put in it, but probably a 3-spring medium decay tank and a US NOS AT7. Other than replacing the electrolytics, the rest of the circuit is stock. I actually like it better than my 6G15 RI, but not by much.
Wow, nice! That's a lotta experimenting, and thanks for your feedback bro. I kinda had the feeling that someone would say this. I'll probably reach out to my tech when I have some cash in hand and see what kinda money he wants. I'd rather not drill into the amp faceplate to add the extra knobs and it'd be nice to keep channel 1 stock so maybe on the back panel someplace...
 
Hire a guy like me to build you a old Fender stand alone unit ..... just as much as a amp though or close to it

as far as real deal analog Spring Reverb Floor Units ......... they are very few and far between .......... the Gamechanger Light pedal was the one for me .... I don't use all the extra stuff and just mainly use the Spring reverb on it . but all the fun stuff is there in case I go to hard on the Indica and want to stare at my sneakers while making weird noises
I'm guessing I'd be looking at upwards of 1500-2000 bucks eh?

I'm probably better off getting a RI Fender unit again if that's the route I'm taking. I thought it was crazy money in '07 when I paid $350 for a lightly used one. I think I sold it for $500 or $600. I should've just kept it, they have fantastic tone. Just looking for a nice mild spring reverb more than I am surf drip although I gotta admit I love surf music I just don't play it.
 
Well, if cost wasn't an issue, I'd say the Victoria Reverberato. That's pretty pricey, though.

Honestly, though, I think modding your Twin's circuit is probably the easiest and cheapest to remain analog. I've experimented with various tanks, 2-spring vs 3-spring, short/medium/long decay, playing around with input/output impedance, AU7 vs AT7 vs AX7 vs AY7, etc. Adding a Dwell and a Tone knob are pretty simple mods, too. Best reverb I have right now is a '73 Pro Reverb. Don't remember what I put in it, but probably a 3-spring medium decay tank and a US NOS AT7. Other than replacing the electrolytics, the rest of the circuit is stock. I actually like it better than my 6G15 RI, but not by much.
This idea makes more sense to me also
 
Wow, nice! That's a lotta experimenting, and thanks for your feedback bro. I kinda had the feeling that someone would say this. I'll probably reach out to my tech when I have some cash in hand and see what kinda money he wants. I'd rather not drill into the amp faceplate to add the extra knobs and it'd be nice to keep channel 1 stock so maybe on the back panel someplace...

Different tanks make a world of difference and is something easily DIY. They're about $33-$45 each. Look at 4AB3C1B (2-spring long decay), 4AB2C1B (2-spring medium decay), or 9AB3C1B (3-spring long decay, I think). I might suggest the 2-spring medium decay, I think Fender uses long decay as stock and a medium decay might allow you to drive the reverb harder without the tails getting too long.

I also replace the old RCA cables with something a bit more robust, usually just something from the Hi-Fi department but not too exotic. Helps with noise, RFI/EMI, and high-end definition.

As for drilling, yeah, I don't like doing that, either. I think you could skip the Tone knob, could use a variable resistor internally or just tune it during the mod. For the Dwell, you could put it in the ground switch hole or the external speaker jack, or both if you want the Tone knob external.
 
This idea makes more sense to me also
Then the question I have for you and @ChurchHill is will it remain quiet at high stage volumes? Other than some fiddling around with it at sane volumes at home when I got it I've never wrung out a cranked Twin with the reverb operational. I know the tank is a bag that is supposed to isolate it some, I just don't wanna go through all that trouble only to have issues at 120dB, LOL.
 
I'm guessing I'd be looking at upwards of 1500-2000 bucks eh?

I'm probably better off getting a RI Fender unit again if that's the route I'm taking. I thought it was crazy money in '07 when I paid $350 for a lightly used one. I think I sold it for $500 or $600. I should've just kept it, they have fantastic tone. Just looking for a nice mild spring reverb more than I am surf drip although I gotta admit I love surf music I just don't play it.
Mojotone sells a kit ... I believe it's a clone of the old fender stand alone units ....
I'd have to check price ...
 
Different tanks make a world of difference and is something easily DIY. They're about $33-$45 each. Look at 4AB3C1B (2-spring long decay), 4AB2C1B (2-spring medium decay), or 9AB3C1B (3-spring long decay, I think). I might suggest the 2-spring medium decay, I think Fender uses long decay as stock and a medium decay might allow you to drive the reverb harder without the tails getting too long.

I also replace the old RCA cables with something a bit more robust, usually just something from the Hi-Fi department but not too exotic. Helps with noise, RFI/EMI, and high-end definition.

As for drilling, yeah, I don't like doing that, either. I think you could skip the Tone knob, could use a variable resistor internally or just tune it during the mod. For the Dwell, you could put it in the ground switch hole or the external speaker jack, or both if you want the Tone knob external.
By chance do you know what tank is used in RI 6g15? It seemed like a shorter tank than the one stock in the Twin.

Mojotone sells a kit ... I believe it's a clone of the old fender stand alone units ....
I'd have to check price ...
$630 w/o the cabinet.....the cab is $346.....ooof.
 
Real Fender amp
But these are so nice
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By chance do you know what tank is used in RI 6g15? It seemed like a shorter tank than the one stock in the Twin.


$630 w/o the cabinet.....the cab is $346.....ooof.
Yeah ... I can make my own cabinets though ....and do my own tolex ... and order my own parts ... create my own PCB's .... there's where your savings can come from
 
Yeah ... I can make my own cabinets though ....and do my own tolex ... and order my own parts ... create my own PCB's .... there's where your savings can come from
I have to admit a snakeskin reverb unit would be pretty badass. :yes: :cheers: :yes:

Real Fender amp
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Those are one of the better digital units but they are still digital and the only digital stuff allowed in my rig is my fingers.:LOL:
 
Yep. I love some digital stuff, especially the old rack units. But, for spring reverb, I've never heard anything that didn't make me want to rip my ears off. Especially for the sounds you're going for, there is nothing that comes close to actual tanks and tubes.
 
Yep. I love some digital stuff, especially the old rack units. But, for spring reverb, I've never heard anything that didn't make me want to rip my ears off. Especially for the sounds you're going for, there is nothing that comes close to actual tanks and tubes.
You shall never get a diagreement with me on the terms of Fender amps. I just love Fender guitars and amps.
 
You shall never get a diagreement with me on the terms of Fender amps. I just love Fender guitars and amps.
The old lady made her first foray into electrics and bought a nice Mexican thinline with noiseless pickups. I plugged it into my rig and let it rip...and then started looking at thinlines, LOL.
 
It’s dig, but I love mine. Been using it in the loop of my PS2 and it’s fantastic. Very versatile with the mix, dwell and tone controls.

 
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