why do 80s heroes forget how to solo

[Meathead]

You don't have to get worse as you get older, you can get better...Andy Timmons and Paul Gilbert are playing tastier than they ever have.
I don't understand Lynch (never was a fan anyway).

Eddie should just retire, I sure would...
He's rich, he's proved all that he has to prove on a guitar. Go relax on a beach and check on your bank account from time to time to see all the money that you are making off of selling EVH products.

 

[Gainzilla]

that mr big vid rocked!
angus kept it simple and still rocks.

i purposely left a few names off of the list for a reason

nuno impressed me at that NAMM reunion a few years ago. still has chops, but cocky guys like that get buried in yes men and pretty soon they start thinking their armpit farts are worthy of tracking.

i haven't heard the blackmore's knights but i cannot imagine he's making any major musical statements dressed like peter pan and traipsing through knottingham forrest jamming on zither with maid marrian,

and uli may have imbibed one to many cups of shroom tea gazing into his anhk-encrusted crystal ball channeling hendrix to make music familiar to those dwelling in the milky way constellation. and i'd rather hear alan greenspan sing.

schenker still seems to be able to fan away the dead neuron fog long enough to blaze.

I don't know what else to say...

That was awesome!!

V.

Indeed!!

 

[Digital Jams]

that mr big vid rocked!
angus kept it simple and still rocks.

i purposely left a few names off of the list for a reason

nuno impressed me at that NAMM reunion a few years ago. still has chops, but cocky guys like that get buried in yes men and pretty soon they start thinking their armpit farts are worthy of tracking.

i haven't heard the blackmore's knights but i cannot imagine he's making any major musical statements dressed like peter pan and traipsing through knottingham forrest jamming on zither with maid marrian,

and uli may have imbibed one to many cups of shroom tea gazing into his anhk-encrusted crystal ball channeling hendrix to make music familiar to those dwelling in the milky way constellation. and i'd rather hear alan greenspan sing.

schenker still seems to be able to fan away the dead neuron fog long enough to blaze.

Paul LOVES to play guitar and it shows whatever he is doing. He WANTS to be there no matter the gig and gives it his best everytime.

Plus he has taken a page from the mentoneman book.......singles and a marshall

 

[rupe]

that mr big vid rocked!
angus kept it simple and still rocks.

i purposely left a few names off of the list for a reason

nuno impressed me at that NAMM reunion a few years ago. still has chops, but cocky guys like that get buried in yes men and pretty soon they start thinking their armpit farts are worthy of tracking.

i haven't heard the blackmore's knights but i cannot imagine he's making any major musical statements dressed like peter pan and traipsing through knottingham forrest jamming on zither with maid marrian,

and uli may have imbibed one to many cups of shroom tea gazing into his anhk-encrusted crystal ball channeling hendrix to make music familiar to those dwelling in the milky way constellation. and i'd rather hear alan greenspan sing.

schenker still seems to be able to fan away the dead neuron fog long enough to blaze.

I don't know what else to say...

That was awesome!!

V.

Yes it was

Another 80's dude who still brings it today is Reb Beach. He's as cool and down to earth as they come and has phenonenal chops and tone to this day.

Lynch has been the biggest let down for me. I actually walked out of one his shows about 5 years ago...horrible, noisy, sloppy playing and icepick-in-the-eardrums tone

 

[stratotone]

Well, if you get positive reinforcement no matter how badly you play, it won't matter and you won't care either. I saw VH twice on the 2007 roth tour - they played KC and I went there, then they added a show in Tulsa and I went there too. Eddie was fucked up on the KC show and nearly fell a few times. He played eruption sloppy as hell, I could go to a guitar center at midnight and find a dozen preteens that could play it better.

People didn't care. They were going NUTS. It was eddie. It was terrible. But everyone at the show was cheering and freaking out like it was '78 and he was king of the world.

How many guitarists would actually work towards becoming a better musician when every time you let loose a beer fart you get put up on people's shoulders like you scored the winning touchdown? Not many. Add to that substance abuse problems...

 

[Greazygeo]

and uli may have imbibed one to many cups of shroom tea gazing into his anhk-encrusted crystal ball channeling hendrix to make music familiar to those dwelling in the milky way constellation. and i'd rather hear alan greenspan sing.

The last few Uli cd's are amazing. I caught him twice the last time he toured....the show in Pittsburgh was unreal, totally on fire! The band was killer as well. Under a Dark Sky has some great stuff on it, Metamorphosis is mind blowing.

I think that many guys end up working on songwriting instead of working on scales for hours on end.

Lynch seems like the player that when he works things out comes up with cool stuff. Probably in the mindset of just go for it and see what happens....sometimes you fall on your face, other times land on your feet. If you like his old playing there are always cd's to listen.

 

[mentoneman]

The last few Uli cd's are amazing. I caught him twice the last time he toured....the show in Pittsburgh was unreal, totally on fire! The band was killer as well. Under a Dark Sky has some great stuff on it, Metamorphosis is mind blowing.

I think that many guys end up working on songwriting instead of working on scales for hours on end.

Lynch seems like the player that when he works things out comes up with cool stuff. Probably in the mindset of just go for it and see what happens....sometimes you fall on your face, other times land on your feet. If you like his old playing there are always cd's to listen.

i wouldn't mind seeing uli on fire.

all i remember seeing recently is weird hippy stuff with the 30 fret guitar playing sky church yoga music or an awkward jam with the scorpions. but ant too said uli still has it so i'm sure he can still bust some sails of charon without wetting his pants.

 

[Spaceboy]

I'm sure we're all familiar with the story of Samson...

 

[Greazygeo]

The last few Uli cd's are amazing. I caught him twice the last time he toured....the show in Pittsburgh was unreal, totally on fire! The band was killer as well. Under a Dark Sky has some great stuff on it, Metamorphosis is mind blowing.

I think that many guys end up working on songwriting instead of working on scales for hours on end.

Lynch seems like the player that when he works things out comes up with cool stuff. Probably in the mindset of just go for it and see what happens....sometimes you fall on your face, other times land on your feet. If you like his old playing there are always cd's to listen.

i wouldn't mind seeing uli on fire.

all i remember seeing recently is weird hippy stuff with the 30 fret guitar playing sky church yoga music or an awkward jam with the scorpions. but ant too said uli still has it so i'm sure he can still bust some sails of charon without wetting his pants.

He played for a solid 3 hours! Played pretty much the whole new album, you should get it! Track 5 and 10 are awesome. We drove 4 hours to get there and it was totally worth it. You should grab those last couple cds, lots of great stuff.

 

[glpg80]

I don't know what happened to Lynch..he's been getting into odd territory for like the last ten years..biggest letdown by any of my guitar 'heroes' growing up =(

Odd as in suck... LOL!
I don't know what's wrong with him. I blame the roids and the bodybuilding phase he went thru.

wouldn't surprise me....but it's like he doesn't even TRY to sound good...you could tell back in the day there was a method to what he was doing..he knew what he wanted to do and he did it....now it's just a whimsical 'well, i'll put my fingers wherever and see what happens'...ick

thats the best anyone has described it.

more sad than it is pathetic to be honest

 

[shreder75]

I don't know what happened to Lynch..he's been getting into odd territory for like the last ten years..biggest letdown by any of my guitar 'heroes' growing up =(

Odd as in suck... LOL!
I don't know what's wrong with him. I blame the roids and the bodybuilding phase he went thru.

wouldn't surprise me....but it's like he doesn't even TRY to sound good...you could tell back in the day there was a method to what he was doing..he knew what he wanted to do and he did it....now it's just a whimsical 'well, i'll put my fingers wherever and see what happens'...ick

thats the best anyone has described it.

more sad than it is pathetic to be honest

truly =( don't get me wrong..old stuff? Still the shit...and he'll always be a major influence on me....his old stuff only though..lol

 

[MisterBulbous]

Somebody slightly mentioned Paul Gilbert. This guy continues to grow and grow; playing everything from Bach to Todd Rundgren style songs to shred and way beyond. For someone to dispute this would be completely ignorant to all the stuff he has done in the last five years...G3 tour, countless other tours, Mr Big, Freddy Nelson, Guitar Center lessons, and his tone continues to evolve as well.

 

[Gainzilla]

I don't know what happened to Lynch..he's been getting into odd territory for like the last ten years..biggest letdown by any of my guitar 'heroes' growing up =(

Odd as in suck... LOL!
I don't know what's wrong with him. I blame the roids and the bodybuilding phase he went thru.

wouldn't surprise me....but it's like he doesn't even TRY to sound good...you could tell back in the day there was a method to what he was doing..he knew what he wanted to do and he did it....now it's just a whimsical 'well, i'll put my fingers wherever and see what happens'...ick

thats the best anyone has described it.

more sad than it is pathetic to be honest

truly =( don't get me wrong..old stuff? Still the shit...and he'll always be a major influence on me....his old stuff only though..lol

Ralphie and I saw him a few years ago and he was wailing. He had the phaser on for most of the set which was annoying but other than that, he really was great. I caught him at the Duncan booth at NAMM and he sounded great as well. I have seen the other side of Lynch and yeah, its disappointing to say the least but the last 2 times that I saw him within the last couple of years, I didnt really have any complaints...

 

[Ventura]

Somebody slightly mentioned Paul Gilbert. This guy continues to grow and grow; playing everything from Bach to Todd Rundgren style songs to shred and way beyond. For someone to dispute this would be completely ignorant to all the stuff he has done in the last five years...G3 tour, countless other tours, Mr Big, Freddy Nelson, Guitar Center lessons, and his tone continues to evolve as well.

HOOOOGE fan of Paul... I love his style and I love the fact he seems pretty down to earth!!

V.

 

[glassjaw7]

It comes down to two things:

1. These guys were hungry for it when they were younger. They were out to create their identity through their sound, and they accomplished that. What's left to do? For many guys, it ends there. Only a few players keep growing and stay genuinely interested in the instrument, like Vai and Gilbert.

2. Musicians are like athletes (sort of) in that if you don't use, you lose it. Simple as that.

I'm still trying to get better at the guitar, both physically and in my understanding of music, but I listen to clips from when I was 19 (back when I could play guitar 8 hours a day) and it blows my mind how much better I was! I'm a better all around musician and songwriter now, but back then my fingers were able to do things that they can't do now, and I'm only 29!

 

[shreder75]

I don't know what happened to Lynch..he's been getting into odd territory for like the last ten years..biggest letdown by any of my guitar 'heroes' growing up =(

Odd as in suck... LOL!
I don't know what's wrong with him. I blame the roids and the bodybuilding phase he went thru.

wouldn't surprise me....but it's like he doesn't even TRY to sound good...you could tell back in the day there was a method to what he was doing..he knew what he wanted to do and he did it....now it's just a whimsical 'well, i'll put my fingers wherever and see what happens'...ick

thats the best anyone has described it.

more sad than it is pathetic to be honest

truly =( don't get me wrong..old stuff? Still the shit...and he'll always be a major influence on me....his old stuff only though..lol

Ralphie and I saw him a few years ago and he was wailing. He had the phaser on for most of the set which was annoying but other than that, he really was great. I caught him at the Duncan booth at NAMM and he sounded great as well. I have seen the other side of Lynch and yeah, its disappointing to say the least but the last 2 times that I saw him within the last couple of years, I didnt really have any complaints...

well you must have caught him on a good day or two...I went with dave to see him on one of those sam ash clinics a couple years back....while he wasn't a sloppy mess, I wouldn't say he was on fire by any means..far from the old lynch I grew up with for sure..

 

[joolzriff]

people do what people do theres no race into being the planets ultra player plus there has to be time to fit life into your life.....these players from the 80's,some of them probably had familys(less guitar time/less learned)......it dosnt matter,its bout the song realy

 

[Chubtone]

What happened to these guys ?? shouldn't they be 10-20 years better than a pete thorn or a chubtone or an andy wood? not even close.

Um. My name NEEDS to be capitalized mentoneman. Thank you. Your disrespect will not be tolerated. I'll see you at NAMM. Don't make me pull some Portagee on Portagee crime.

What are you doing, including my (uncapitalized) name with Pete and Andy's name? I'm some dad, sitting in my studio after the whole family goes to sleep trying to get something done here and there. Those other guys are freaking pros.

By the way, I didn't really hear much of anything from you after I sent you my CD. I figured you thought it sucked.

 

[SFW]

There are players who have continued to grow and those who have chosen not to. Its really as simple as that. I personally think that Eddie and George need to just retire and let us remember them in their glory years.

 

[ACShreds]

dough aldrich is up there in age and still brings its...