160 y/o white pine Charvels at TMZ

[rupe]

How well will pine hold Floyd Rose trem studs in place?

I wondered about that as well, but they're claiming that this aged old growth lumber is very hard and unlike the soft pine that we think about with today's lumber.

 

[thiswaythatway]

3K and you're left trying to convince yourself that the wood was worth it. Better off just spending $800 on a Japanese model that probably sounds better.

 

[threadkiller]

Pine is fine. These are pricey though. I could see it for < $1,000

 

[dfrattaroli]

Funny how, if you just put it in the add, it seems significant. Maybe 160 years is "old" for wood but I'd have to imagine every quality guitar is using wood that's at least 80 years old. What the fuck is the difference anyway? Next thing you know, Ernie Ball will start hand-staining the Axis in 11 different colors and....

 

[rupe]

Funny how, if you just put it in the add, it seems significant. Maybe 160 years is "old" for wood but I'd have to imagine every quality guitar is using wood that's at least 80 years old. What the fuck is the difference anyway? Next thing you know, Ernie Ball will start hand-staining the Axis in 11 different colors and....

There's a huge difference between old growth and new growth lumber. This wood was harvested 160 years ago but the actual trees go back to the 1600's according to Charvel. I'm not saying this stuff will be good, simply that none of know without trying it out. Any opinions are worthless until somebody actually spends some time with one (or several).

As for the price, an equivilant Anderson/Suhr/etc would probably cost even more. A few years back I would have said that they aren't on par but my latest experiences with the Charvel Custom Shop have convinced me that they've gotten their act together and are building instruments worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as those others.

 

[AndyK]

3K and you're left trying to convince yourself that the wood was worth it. Better off just spending $800 on a Japanese model that probably sounds better.

Agree!

 

[Shawn Lutz]

I think its an interesting wood choice. Price is a bit too steep. I never heard pine as a tone wood so I'm curious as to how they sound both plugged in and not. Kind of expensive if it sounds bad, would make a cool coffee table if it did.nt sound good.

 

[Anonymous]

How well will pine hold Floyd Rose trem studs in place?

I wondered about that as well, but they're claiming that this aged old growth lumber is very hard and unlike the soft pine that we think about with today's lumber.

I wouldn't see why it would be a problem. The sugar pine body on my tele has a heavy b-bender screwed into it and it is holding up fine...

Steve

 

[FortinAmps]

If it was 175 year old Pine.....I'd be all over that

 

[AmpliFIRE]

 

[iplayloudly]

How well will pine hold Floyd Rose trem studs in place?

I wondered about that as well, but they're claiming that this aged old growth lumber is very hard and unlike the soft pine that we think about with today's lumber.

This is true actually. I work in the wood flooring business, and we sell old reclaimed pine flooring often. It is much harder and denser then today's pine. I've been told its because back then, trees grew slower and longer before they were harvested. Now days they grow them real fast with fertilizers and such, and the faster they grow, the softer the wood is. The old stuff is almost as hard as oak.

 

[rupe]

How well will pine hold Floyd Rose trem studs in place?

I wondered about that as well, but they're claiming that this aged old growth lumber is very hard and unlike the soft pine that we think about with today's lumber.

This is true actually. I work in the wood flooring business, and we sell old reclaimed pine flooring often. It is much harder and denser then today's pine. I've been told its because back then, trees grew slower and longer before they were harvested. Now days they grow them real fast with fertilizers and such, and the faster they grow, the softer the wood is. The old stuff is almost as hard as oak.

That's correct. The growth rings are much tighter which makes the wood stronger and more resonant once its dried. It's a major reason why the majority of newer acoustics simply don't sound as good as their vintage counterparts. Even so, I still wondered if it would be strong enough for Floyd studs simply because its pine...I know guys who have pulled Floyds out of basswood guitars and its not as soft as typical pine. I'd love to put one of these through the wringer...they look cool.

 

[1big1]

How well will pine hold Floyd Rose trem studs in place?

I wondered about that as well, but they're claiming that this aged old growth lumber is very hard and unlike the soft pine that we think about with today's lumber.

This is true actually. I work in the wood flooring business, and we sell old reclaimed pine flooring often. It is much harder and denser then today's pine. I've been told its because back then, trees grew slower and longer before they were harvested. Now days they grow them real fast with fertilizers and such, and the faster they grow, the softer the wood is. The old stuff is almost as hard as oak.

+1. i'd bet it rings like a bell.

 

[motomoto]

They may not look that good...








but i bet they smell awesome

 

[AmpliFIRE]

I would personally love to try one. My main gripe is that they're 2 piece bodies

 

[Gainfreak]

If it was 175 year old Pine.....I'd be all over that

 

[AndyK]

Hey, I could use one to freshen my SKB cases!

 

[thiswaythatway]

How well will pine hold Floyd Rose trem studs in place?

I wondered about that as well, but they're claiming that this aged old growth lumber is very hard and unlike the soft pine that we think about with today's lumber.

This is true actually. I work in the wood flooring business, and we sell old reclaimed pine flooring often. It is much harder and denser then today's pine. I've been told its because back then, trees grew slower and longer before they were harvested. Now days they grow them real fast with fertilizers and such, and the faster they grow, the softer the wood is. The old stuff is almost as hard as oak.

Oh great, now the trees are on steroids? Does that mean the tone of the guitar goes through severe mood swings?