About the Axe-fx

[yngzaklynch]

Sweet, good job, wanna buy some amps?

Brad

Yes but I better get some cash in the bank first. If I put anything like an amp on a CC my wife will prolly smack me with a frying pan or sum'in.

 

[jkdsteve]

But people... whats really important here is that I have a fridge full of beer and tomorrow off.

I'll be over shortly!

Did I mention we just paid off over 9 grand in CC debt? Oh it is indeed beer O'clock!

I'll drink to that!

 

[jesserides2005]

Not trying to play Devil's Advocate or anything, but I thought the Dumblesque & Fenderesque tones in that video were Awesome!

I want one now, but I'll think I'll wait till the hype wears off a little bit & also see what revisions start popping up.

 

[Gainfreak]

I have experienced the axe nazi's too, ha and I have an Axe FX.

So many threads about this thing its sick, good for exposure I guess. I think its a great box, but those who make it out to be the saviour of guitar tone, I just don't get, and those who think it sucks, I just don't get either.

I am somewhere in the happy middle. I still have my rack gear, and I still have the axe. Its ok if you didn't like it, and if you gave it a thorough try out, then you don't have to like it, thats whats so great about gear and our individual tastes, if we all liked the same thing, it might get plenty bland.

What I have noticed listening to company demos, and when I went through the presets, is that alot of them were overdone, using too much efx, tricky stuff and the like, nothing about pure tone. I see this in this demo video. Use of Digital wah's, harmonizers, and the like, overdone, which from what I understand, is supposed to give an idea about what it can do, but for those tone junkies, its a major turnoff as it just screams modeler and digital. I believe Fractal has thus since updated its presets..

However, if you dig in, its possible to get some nice usuabale stuff from the axe, and it can simplify alot of things

I missed this post!
Well said!

 

[Gainfreak]

Just curious,

what type of clip would you like to hear from it?

Probably a med to high gain clip that isn't recorded direct using a guitar speaker cab

 

[yngzaklynch]

Did I mention we just paid off over 9 grand in CC debt? Oh it is indeed beer O'clock!

Congrats man! It took me 7-8 years of STRICT control to get out of credit card debt, but I did it a few years ago and holy crap, it feels GREAT!!!!

Thanks. I actually have 1 more. We killed 2 credit cards this year. My last one isn't half as bad so I'm feeling good.

 

[Audioholic]

Just curious,

what type of clip would you like to hear from it?

Probably a med to high gain clip that isn't recorded direct using a guitar speaker cab

kewl
I mainly use it for direct, but if I get some time here, I will try to use it going through a cab for you

 

[Gainfreak]

Just curious,

what type of clip would you like to hear from it?

Probably a med to high gain clip that isn't recorded direct using a guitar speaker cab

kewl
I mainly use it for direct, but if I get some time here, I will try to use it going through a cab for you

you da man!

 

[photios]

Well if you're making clips, mind doing one without any effects of a low gain, bright crunch that is very raw and un-compressed (think HIWATT)?

I had an AXE and I didnt dig it...but I'm ALL for digital modeling...I hope that someday before I die I actually see the day when digital gear sounds and feels as good as tube amps. For now though, tone first (read: tubes).

I do think the AXE has its place for certian situations/players/tones but it just wasnt my thang personally...no hate though....and like I said, I encourage Cliff and all like him to continue to pursue the digital frontier.

 

[Audioholic]

Hey guys

here is a very quick clip I just whipped up. I didn't spend time tweaking the patches to be the best for cab, and I am sure I could make this, mic this better, but for quick clips, well, sorry.

I went guitar into Axe FX, Axe FX stereo out into my Randall RT2/50 power amp, out left and right into my Earcandy 2x12 with green machine speakers.

On one speaker I used a 57 pretty much straight on, on the other, I used a heil PR40 a little off axis. I didn't try for best placement, just threw up and went.

Sorry for my noodling, I am not very good at doing random clips and riffs. I must say, I was pleasantly surprised with the axe as a preamp into guitar speaker. I tried it before with a different cab and I wasn't too excited, but it sounded much better this time around, and honestly, I could see myself using the axe / poweramp combination sometime. I like this setup more then going direct into PA, this way feels more like a guitar amp should. So, perhaps my clips won't do it justice, but just keep in mind it was a quicky

 

[degenaro]

This is exactly what I heard in the room at the NY ampshow. Im just posting this because there have been people wondering why Dave and I didn't dig it. I can't answer for Dave but this is what I heard and based my decision on at the time

This is not a dig on the Axe-fx. Im only posting this because I have been getting a lot of guys asking me why I didn't like the unit when I heard it and I only had this as a referance.

There are so many post spraising the thing by people I respect so I know that this thing could probably kill, but when people start asking me a question and then thinking Im ragging on the thing just to rag on it, It kind of gets under my skin.

This is exactly what I heard at the show. Some people commented about the camera compression on youtube but this is pretty accurate of what I heard in the room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y3Bn20mqAU

Why would you actually care?

I guess for the same reason why you post clips after people have negative things to say about the unit


In all honesty, I just wanted people to see why I said what I said about the unit.

I don't think it's the same at all, I post clips of all my shit because..according to numerous folks..I A)need the back padding, B)I'm the king of self spammage, C) don't have a life...

 

[Gainzilla]

I post clips of all my shit because..according to numerous folks..I A)need the back padding, B)I'm the king of self spammage, C) don't have a life...

Im pretty sure that theyre talking about carl

 

[degenaro]

Just curious,

what type of clip would you like to hear from it?

Probably a med to high gain clip that isn't recorded direct using a guitar speaker cab

Not that I want to convice you but...Celestion Blue miked with a 609...

Dude, I luv ya man...but there isn't too much gearwise we see eye to eye on. And that's fine. But remember the Reeza/Flexi set-up...

 

[degenaro]

Haven't been around long, huh! LOL

I post clips of all my shit because..according to numerous folks..I A)need the back padding, B)I'm the king of self spammage, C) don't have a life...

Im pretty sure that theyre talking about carl

 

[Digital Jams]

I agree with Gainfreak and I owned the unit. Nothing against Cliff but it wasnt my cup of tea. When I posted this before I got flamed to death by the Fractual Hit Squad

Brad

So when did we all start to loose the ability to argue about gear. I dunno shit about hit squad...I dig it, you didn't...it's all good as far as I'm concerned.

Ed, you know you are not the hit squad though. YOu debate, throw clips up to prove your point and you are done. You know what the hit squad is...........the word destroys is used for any musical piece of gear, any other modeler is a toy, I threw all my amps in the garbage, keep your amps if you like the looks, etc...................

 

[ejecta]

Ralph,
IMHO I dont think you need to defend anything. Fuck what other people think your reasons are for being honest about what you heard. You are not alone in your assesment. I have heard more than just you saying that he Axe doesnt live up to the all the praise and thats coming from people who have owned it.

I'm sure its a nice unit but for me I dont think it would be my cup of tea. Im not a dig into a bunch of parameters and tweak kind of guy. That said all the talk did make me wonder what it sounded like just out of curiosity but in the end Im sure it wouldnt be me and I know it wouldnt scratch my itch like a tube amp can.

Anyway, there will be some who dig the Axe and defend thier purchase and there will be some who dont think it's all that and either A) keep it to themselves in order to not rain on other people's parade or B) those who will speak opeenly and honestly about it no matter all the praise for it. You are the later and I respect you for that as much I as I respect the guy who digs it.

 

[Digital Jams]

Just curious,

what type of clip would you like to hear from it?

Probably a med to high gain clip that isn't recorded direct using a guitar speaker cab

Not that I want to convice you but...Celestion Blue miked with a 609...

Dude, I luv ya man...but there isn't too much gearwise we see eye to eye on. And that's fine. But remember the Reeza/Flexi set-up...

This.

That is the shit I want to see more of, just grabbing cock and rocking out

 

[yngzaklynch]

Who needs a cold one?

 

[Gainfreak]

Just curious,

what type of clip would you like to hear from it?

Probably a med to high gain clip that isn't recorded direct using a guitar speaker cab

Not that I want to convice you but...Celestion Blue miked with a 609...

Dude, I luv ya man...but there isn't too much gearwise we see eye to eye on. And that's fine. But remember the Reeza/Flexi set-up...

Ed,

You know that I love you to death, that goes without saying and I agree that we don't like a lot of stuff gearwise but that Emma and fulltone/flexi rig was the shiznit!! I Loved that sucker! We also love Letekro's tone to... So there is our commong ground

With that said, and what I've been saying since day 1 is that I think that Id like the axe-FX piped through a tube poweramp and out to speaker cabs rather then direct. Judging by your clip that you posted, I know for a fact that I couldn't get away with that sound with a POD.



and BTW, I just got back from picking up the Guitar Player October addition.
Who loves ya? I do!!

~R~

 

[Digital Jams]

Ralph,
IMHO I dont think you need to defend anything. Fuck what other people think your reasons are for being honest about what you heard. You are not alone in your assesment. I have heard more than just you saying that he Axe doesnt live up to the all the praise and thats coming from people who have owned it.

I'm sure its a nice unit but for me I dont think it would be my cup of tea. Im not a dig into a bunch of parameters and tweak kind of guy. That said all the talk did make me wonder what it sounded like just out of curiosity but in the end Im sure it wouldnt be me and I know it wouldnt scratch my itch like a tube amp can.

Anway, there will be some who dig the Axe and defend thier purchase and there will be some who dont think it's all that and either A) keep it to themselves in order to not rain on other epople's parade or B) those who will speak opeenly and honestly about it no matter all the praise for it. You are the later and I respect you for that as much I as I respect the guy who digs it.

I know where Ralph is coming from, due to many taking Ralph's advice about gear, I damn near owe him $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in consulting fees myself, some people will question his stance on the axe-fx and flat out ask why so negative about it. People want to know what it was that he did not like because so many listen to him an ask for tone advice.