DanTravis62
Moderator
Electronics don't look "Gibson" stock. There's been some fuckery with those pickups.
Am I responsible for modifications that I did not mention in a listing?
japetus
Well-known member
Got home and looked at the pics. I would just send it back man. Too much cash.
Mark Skid
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Looks sketchy to me as well. Notice how the label corners are pulled and torn... Looks like someone removed the Custombuckers, pulled the labels, threw-in a set of '57 Classics and stuck the Custombucker labels on the 57's.
DanTravis62
Moderator
I completely agree.
That's not the only thing either, specifically, custom shop Gibson electronics work is always tighter and cleaner than that.
You can tell the heat shrink wrap has either been messed with or isn't stock either, it's NEVER that loose.
There's no way that left the custom shop with wiring work like that. It's definitely been messed with. And combined with the stickers on the pickups, I think it's safe to say those aren't the original pickups, even if they ARE custom buckers. I agree with you though, I think they're 57 classics.
japetus
Well-known member
If that soldering work is Gibson Custom Shop, I am going to apply to be a Master Pickup Installer.
DanTravis62
Moderator
Dude right? Ive NEVER seen a custom shop Gibson with soldering and wiring that messy.
napalmdeath
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Me too.
napalmdeath
Well-known member
100% agree. Sounds pretty shady, actually. Certainly isn't full disclosure. Something like that should have been revealed in the listing. Some peoples' pictures suck, and some people suck at looking at them.
I've been in this position as a buyer. People call things mint, and there's scratches all over it that don't show up in the pictures.
But, if I'm forking out big bucks for something, I ask questions. Very specific questions.
napalmdeath
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Yep. Send it back. ASAP.
JerEvil
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Dude. Contact Reverb and send this back ASAP.
japetus
Well-known member
He was presenting a case in which he portrayed himself as the guilty party in order to garner a more fair response among the user base of Rig Talk, to see their true opinion, without claiming he is a victim to taint said opinion.
H
harddriver
Well-known member
From the looks of things someone may have swapped out the original custombuckers for two neck pickups if they both read 7.4K. Most bridge pickups are slight hotter than the necks in almost every case.
Return that guitar ASAP... unless you negotiate a fair settlement for your trouble.
Return that guitar ASAP... unless you negotiate a fair settlement for your trouble.
TheRealDonnie
Banned
Well-known member
If the hole is drilled clean it may be an easy fill and buff considering the guitar is natural.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
scottosan
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His policy’s are irrelevant in the guitar is not as described. Reverb will side with you no question.
napalmdeath
Well-known member
I'd consider what said 3rd hole does to it's value. Yeah, sounds like TGP response, but I can't imagine that guitar was cheap. That 3rd hole, could be an expensive whoops.
scottosan
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And I’ve worked on those pickups enough to know that the don’t come off unless peeled. I rewound one recently, potted it and it was still intact. It wasn’t until I hit it with a heat gun cleaning the baseplate that it turned black from the heat gun in which I had to the peel it off. And you can see the cover was removed at some point too
napalmdeath
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I find it funny that people actually think they can maintain their "own" policies on Reverb. You're at Reverb, and/or Paypal's mercy these days - they define the policies. If people think "I don't accept returns - that's my policy" holds water - good luck with that. Especially if it's not as described or important details are conveniently left out.
This jackass may have posted pics, but you know full-well he pulled a fast one not mentioning this said hole, hoping the buyer would miss it.
Mark Skid
Well-known member
Irrelevant, but... I did not originally intent to name the seller, so I used myself as a hypothetical.
TheRealDonnie
Banned
Well-known member
Quick Reverb Story.
Sold a Strat I bought mint in the same condition, also as mint.
Guy who bought it finds out the original owner had changed the middle pickup.
He wants to send it back for the full refund - east coast to west coast.
I offer to pay his local authorized dealer to bring it back to stock. Nope.
I'll toss in gas money and a lunch while they work on the guitar. Nope.
Straight cash equal to the cost of 2 pickups. Nope.
Reverb sided with him.
If I'd have listed it Excellent I would have won based on me honestly not knowing
the internal guts had been touched.
Sold a Strat I bought mint in the same condition, also as mint.
Guy who bought it finds out the original owner had changed the middle pickup.
He wants to send it back for the full refund - east coast to west coast.
I offer to pay his local authorized dealer to bring it back to stock. Nope.
I'll toss in gas money and a lunch while they work on the guitar. Nope.
Straight cash equal to the cost of 2 pickups. Nope.
Reverb sided with him.
If I'd have listed it Excellent I would have won based on me honestly not knowing
the internal guts had been touched.
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