Considering buying a Landry LS100 G3 and asking for input

[bbaug14]

Any updates? I'd love to hear more from people who have done the gauntlet of boutique modded Marshall amps. This amp and the Suhr PT100SE are on my short list of must try.

 

[bbaug14]

Any updates? I'd love to hear more from people who have done the gauntlet of boutique modded Marshall amps. This amp and the Suhr PT100SE are on my short list of must try.

 

[Jayy]

Hey Jayy , when do expect the amp ?

Probably in another 2 or 3 weeks. I'll give a run down on it when I get it and also a shitty cell phone video (it's the only recording device I have) featuring the amp and ALSO featuring my shit hack playing if everyone wants! LOL.

 

[Lifeson1]

Seriously love mine! I've had it for over a month now and can't get over how every little dial of the knob can just change the most minute nuance of the tone. . . Never had an amp like it - thought I had what I needed in a great little clean platform and pedal board, but this amp brings into perspective what a true tube amp can be capable of. Tried going to back to my clean platform to A/B today, and the other amp was just mushy and loose compared to the tonal maturity the G3 can deliver

You're in for a real treat!

 

[Jayy]

Seriously love mine! I've had it for over a month now and can't get over how every little dial of the knob can just change the most minute nuance of the tone. . . Never had an amp like it - thought I had what I needed in a great little clean platform and pedal board, but this amp brings into perspective what a true tube amp can be capable of. Tried going to back to my clean platform to A/B today, and the other amp was just mushy and loose compared to the tonal maturity the G3 can deliver

You're in for a real treat!

Sweet! I'm really looking forward to it! DO you prefer it with or without the diodes engaged? It seems to be an amp that is capable of being very bright and cutting, which I like. It sounds like a fast, quick responding amp and very tight, is that so? How do you like the bright switch, EQ, and resonance set? What tones do you go for? Thanks for sharing your experience!

 

[chasintonez]

Anybody in the Nashville area have a G3 with the current features? I have been testing amps lately and the Landry is on the list, but would really like to hear one in person. Tested the BE100, PT100 so far on my list. Last few that I want to get some time in front of before a final decision is a G3 and a Friedman SS100.

With the amp show here last year and Bill having been there it seems like there might be a few around the Nashville area.

Thanks

 

[Lifeson1]

Seriously love mine! I've had it for over a month now and can't get over how every little dial of the knob can just change the most minute nuance of the tone. . . Never had an amp like it - thought I had what I needed in a great little clean platform and pedal board, but this amp brings into perspective what a true tube amp can be capable of. Tried going to back to my clean platform to A/B today, and the other amp was just mushy and loose compared to the tonal maturity the G3 can deliver

You're in for a real treat!

Sweet! I'm really looking forward to it! DO you prefer it with or without the diodes engaged? It seems to be an amp that is capable of being very bright and cutting, which I like. It sounds like a fast, quick responding amp and very tight, is that so? How do you like the bright switch, EQ, and resonance set? What tones do you go for? Thanks for sharing your experience!

I don't really engage the diodes - I keep it pretty vintage voiced, which has a real woody tone. I usually have everything set to the opposite of bright for a bedroom setting to give a bit more low end, which is pretty tight. Tonally, I talked to Bill about how to properly dial it in, and he told me to turn the treble and presence down all the way, and then gradually build the tone from there by dialing them both in. Worked unbelievably well, you really see how everything dial setting affects the tone in some way. It gives you a better respect for almost how three dimensional the tone is, and I can't stress how helpful that advice was.
I do tend to cut the mids a bit, and set the bass pretty high since it's not really a big low output amp to begin with.

The clean channel is so colorful, I run quite a few FX8 presets thru it. . .

I know my amp was early to mid 2015 and Bill has a few changes he has made to give a little bit more low end, but I won't have time to send it back for a workup until late April, and I honestly don't want to send it back because I'm having so much fun with it - lol.


Really can't wait to hear your thoughts on the amp, just a real joy to play - and for two channels of heaven like that for the price, you just can't beat it.

 

[chasintonez]

I see Bill just posted a new video on the "dirty clean channel". I was one of the guys that called and talked quite a bit about this last week with him.

Lifeson1....I am assuming you have the standard "clean channel" which is more F twin'ish from the descriptions on the forums. How would you say your clean channel would differ to his "dirty clean channel"? Does the standard clean channel have more bottom end than this dirty clean channel or does it sound similar to the "dirty clean channel"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us8oMTK2wAM

 

[Beyond Black]

In my experience the G3 is great sounding amp, but it definitely lacked in the low end. It had enough at low to low/mid volumes, but when turned up toward band volumes, the bottom end couldn't keep up with the volume, making the amp sound smallish and less full. The core tone is amazing, but it could definitely use a resonance control.

 

[bbaug14]

Uh... It has a Depth control on the latest G3. You must have played an older one.

 

[Beyond Black]

Uh... It has a Depth control on the latest G3. You must have played an older one.

My fault, I sold it in back in December, and if I remember correctly, it did have a depth control. I do know that it was a 2015 G3, so it must have. Even with the depth control, I found that it lacked low end at high volume. I wasn't expecting earth rumbling lows, but IMO it could use more to retain fullness at high volumes. My Friedman KS JMP was much fuller with more low end at high volumes in comparison without a depth/resonance control.

 

[Jayy]

Seriously love mine! I've had it for over a month now and can't get over how every little dial of the knob can just change the most minute nuance of the tone. . . Never had an amp like it - thought I had what I needed in a great little clean platform and pedal board, but this amp brings into perspective what a true tube amp can be capable of. Tried going to back to my clean platform to A/B today, and the other amp was just mushy and loose compared to the tonal maturity the G3 can deliver

You're in for a real treat!

Sweet! I'm really looking forward to it! DO you prefer it with or without the diodes engaged? It seems to be an amp that is capable of being very bright and cutting, which I like. It sounds like a fast, quick responding amp and very tight, is that so? How do you like the bright switch, EQ, and resonance set? What tones do you go for? Thanks for sharing your experience!

I don't really engage the diodes - I keep it pretty vintage voiced, which has a real woody tone. I usually have everything set to the opposite of bright for a bedroom setting to give a bit more low end, which is pretty tight. Tonally, I talked to Bill about how to properly dial it in, and he told me to turn the treble and presence down all the way, and then gradually build the tone from there by dialing them both in. Worked unbelievably well, you really see how everything dial setting affects the tone in some way. It gives you a better respect for almost how three dimensional the tone is, and I can't stress how helpful that advice was.
I do tend to cut the mids a bit, and set the bass pretty high since it's not really a big low output amp to begin with.

The clean channel is so colorful, I run quite a few FX8 presets thru it. . .

I know my amp was early to mid 2015 and Bill has a few changes he has made to give a little bit more low end, but I won't have time to send it back for a workup until late April, and I honestly don't want to send it back because I'm having so much fun with it - lol.


Really can't wait to hear your thoughts on the amp, just a real joy to play - and for two channels of heaven like that for the price, you just can't beat it.

Thank you for the input! This gives me ideas of where to start with dialing it in. I will definitely be following up with my experience when I get the G3. I just talked to BIll today and mine may be ready to ship to me this week, if not I should definitely have it next week!

 

[motorboy1]

I so want to get one of these.

 

[Lifeson1]

Thanks for posting that new 'dirty clean' video, that's awesome ! And yes, the 'chimey' Fender-ish clean has more low end, although the video compression is probably killing it on his video. I have my 'wet' rig set for a pedal driven FX-8, but I have it dialed in to the Landry much more fine tuned right now. . . The Princeton has a lot more low end on tap, but it sags tremendously.

I asked Bill about his low end, and his amps are really designed for band settings. He doesn't juice the bass too much, which I wasn't used to. Since I've had mine he has opened it up quite a bit on newer versions, so that's what he wants to update on mine. Buut honestly, I don't mind it the way it is. I have my depth knob dimed, and I have the bright switch turned all the way down to give it a little more oomph. When I get settled in a bit, I'll try to do a few demos to show off the whole tonal range with some nice mics.

I'm contemplating getting the clean changed up, but I think with my vintage TS9 and the FX8 I can pretty much get what I need off my clean channel and really get some nice sparkling, cleans off of it the way it is.

LOVE this amp!

 

[chasintonez]

That is one of the things that is hard to tell without getting in front of the Landry. My thought process is it could be approached two different ways. One way would be go with the "standard" fendery clean on the G3 and then add a pedal for the grit or breakup.

This video is the approach I would be thinking for this option. Without having ever heard a Landry in person, I am making the assumption that the clean channel is similar to this clean before the pedal is hit. The amp in the video is 6L6 based so it may have a little fuller or broader bottom end than the standard clean channel on the G3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iabBK4duphQ

That seems like it may give the most flexibility from straight on fendery clean palate on up thru plenty of gain on the boosted drive channel.

Or

Try the "dirty" clean channel that still sounds like it retains a pure clean with the gain down (although not sure how much headroom is there on the dirty clean version when upping the volume. Could break up earlier or right off the bat versus the purer standard clean)
The dirty clean channel might be the same result versus going the standard clean with pedal route.

Some thoughts I had on it while working thru the research on this amp.

 

[Lifeson1]

That is one of the things that is hard to tell without getting in front of the Landry. My thought process is it could be approached two different ways. One way would be go with the "standard" fendery clean on the G3 and then add a pedal for the grit or breakup.

This video is the approach I would be thinking for this option. Without having ever heard a Landry in person, I am making the assumption that the clean channel is similar to this clean before the pedal is hit. The amp in the video is 6L6 based so it may have a little fuller or broader bottom end than the standard clean channel on the G3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iabBK4duphQ

That seems like it may give the most flexibility from straight on fendery clean palate on up thru plenty of gain on the boosted drive channel.

Or

Try the "dirty" clean channel that still sounds like it retains a pure clean with the gain down (although not sure how much headroom is there on the dirty clean version when upping the volume. Could break up earlier or right off the bat versus the purer standard clean)
The dirty clean channel might be the same result versus going the standard clean with pedal route.

Some thoughts I had on it while working thru the research on this amp.

That clean is pretty darn close to the G3, and it's a similar approach I have to driving pedals through it. . . It's very responsive, lot of headroom, just a great platform to do with what you want, or just leave as it is - because it DOES have a gain stage. Not a dominant one, but does add some girth to the signal.

I really like that dirty channel, It's just a lot easier to the there by building upon the signal rather than trying to take anything off of that type of mod. Dunno, still on the fence. Two weeks ago I was committed to getting it done, but after finding some beautiful voices through my stacking, I'm pretty content. . . for once.

 

[rpurdue]

In my experience the G3 is great sounding amp, but it definitely lacked in the low end. It had enough at low to low/mid volumes, but when turned up toward band volumes, the bottom end couldn't keep up with the volume, making the amp sound smallish and less full. The core tone is amazing, but it could definitely use a resonance control.

I just updated my G3 made in Oct 2015 to the latest revision. It's a very simple change that adds a lot of low end but stays tight. It's a very substantial change. With this change it compares to the Wizard MC2 i've had in bottom and punch. Check it out!

 

[Jayy]

In my experience the G3 is great sounding amp, but it definitely lacked in the low end. It had enough at low to low/mid volumes, but when turned up toward band volumes, the bottom end couldn't keep up with the volume, making the amp sound smallish and less full. The core tone is amazing, but it could definitely use a resonance control.

I just updated my G3 made in Oct 2015 to the latest revision. It's a very simple change that adds a lot of low end but stays tight. It's a very substantial change. With this change it compares to the Wizard MC2 i've had in bottom and punch. Check it out!

Sweet! I'm hoping mine will be shipping to me by the end of this week! What speakers have you used and do you prefer with your G3? Is it still good at lower volumes after the update?

 

[rpurdue]

In my experience the G3 is great sounding amp, but it definitely lacked in the low end. It had enough at low to low/mid volumes, but when turned up toward band volumes, the bottom end couldn't keep up with the volume, making the amp sound smallish and less full. The core tone is amazing, but it could definitely use a resonance control.

I just updated my G3 made in Oct 2015 to the latest revision. It's a very simple change that adds a lot of low end but stays tight. It's a very substantial change. With this change it compares to the Wizard MC2 i've had in bottom and punch. Check it out!

Sweet! I'm hoping mine will be shipping to me by the end of this week! What speakers have you used and do you prefer with your G3? Is it still good at lower volumes after the update?

Hey! I'm using a Dr Z Zbest cab with a V30 and a G12H30. That cab sounds awesome with every amp i've tried it with. Yes, the master works awesome before and after the update. I've had a lot of boutique M style amps and the G3 is special in my opinion.

 

[Jayy]

In my experience the G3 is great sounding amp, but it definitely lacked in the low end. It had enough at low to low/mid volumes, but when turned up toward band volumes, the bottom end couldn't keep up with the volume, making the amp sound smallish and less full. The core tone is amazing, but it could definitely use a resonance control.

I just updated my G3 made in Oct 2015 to the latest revision. It's a very simple change that adds a lot of low end but stays tight. It's a very substantial change. With this change it compares to the Wizard MC2 i've had in bottom and punch. Check it out!

Sweet! I'm hoping mine will be shipping to me by the end of this week! What speakers have you used and do you prefer with your G3? Is it still good at lower volumes after the update?

Hey! I'm using a Dr Z Zbest cab with a V30 and a G12H30. That cab sounds awesome with every amp i've tried it with. Yes, the master works awesome before and after the update. I've had a lot of boutique M style amps and the G3 is special in my opinion.

Awesome! Thanks for the input! I cannot freaking wait to get my G3! I'm gonna try it with my Scumback M75-PVC 65 watts, Scumback BM75 65 watts, Made in UK greenback reissues from the 1990''s, Hellatone 30's, and WGS retro 30s.