Dar amps ? Can anyone reach them ?

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maddnotez":qia6yuyf said:
I do not recommend armed robbery, you could easliy go to prison for Ten years. BUT if this happened to me I would be at his shop taking my unfinished amp, along with some finished products and anything else I could obtain for my troubles. I know easier said than done, but thats alot of money to let someone get over on you.

maybe if i was within 2000 miles, lol :doh: :lol: :LOL:

ive tried calling the cops over and over again, getting a different person each time this morning, they just keep repeating that its civil, even when i say that its theft and/or fraud its they just ignore what im saying. ill try the mayors office next, lol. anyone else in here trying anything?

lol, i talked to the better business bureau and the attorney generals office, i asked "what if he doesn't respond? or wont comply?" they said at that point there is nothing they could do. lol, wtf? then why even file?
 
thegame":1no8803y said:
I remember the sheetrock scam but can't remember the company. Who was that again ?

It was one guy, with multiple auctions for Dual Rectifiers (I think it was Dual Recs) on Ebay all with the same photo for a really low price. I think there were 8-10 auctions can't remember exactly.

He got pulled into court over it, I think he had relocated to Phoenix and was playing in a cover band there and was found or something like that.

I'm sure xiwiwix can fill in the incorrect/missing details. :lol: :LOL:
 
Shiny_Surface":2am31rj3 said:
thegame":2am31rj3 said:
I remember the sheetrock scam but can't remember the company. Who was that again ?

It was one guy, with multiple auctions for Dual Rectifiers (I think it was Dual Recs) on Ebay all with the same photo for a really low price. I think there were 8-10 auctions can't remember exactly.

He got pulled into court over it, I think he had relocated to Phoenix and was playing in a cover band there and was found or something like that.

I'm sure xiwiwix can fill in the incorrect/missing details. :lol: :LOL:

Oh yeah, it wasn't a company but one isolated individual. What a bastard !
 
Shiny_Surface":2jpv1tfz said:
thegame":2jpv1tfz said:
I remember the sheetrock scam but can't remember the company. Who was that again ?

It was one guy, with multiple auctions for Dual Rectifiers (I think it was Dual Recs) on Ebay all with the same photo for a really low price. I think there were 8-10 auctions can't remember exactly.

He got pulled into court over it, I think he had relocated to Phoenix and was playing in a cover band there and was found or something like that.

I'm sure xiwiwix can fill in the incorrect/missing details. :lol: :LOL:
I believe that his name was Marc Greco...
 
benduncan":2bpg27v9 said:
lol, i talked to the better business bureau and the attorney generals office, i asked "what if he doesn't respond? or wont comply?" they said at that point there is nothing they could do. lol, wtf? then why even file?


Welcome to the American "justice" system. Criminal behavior is often rewarded and at the very least, looked upon with a "there's nothing we can do" attitude. Courts get their fine money, and then protect their repeat customers (THE CRIMINALS) from victims. I should know... I've been a "victim" on multiple occasions and I do IT work for the courts and law enforcement. It's all a big inside joke, a game to pass the time. The only people who aren't in on the joke (except for when they're the butt of the joke) are the innocent and/or victims.

ETA: The Cliff's Notes version of my rant is this... criminals don't pay for their crimes. YOU (the innocent victim) DO! Isn't a liberal court/legal system great??? :doh:
 
How many of these threads do we have to see? Really?

I like to try to support the little guy, but I would never buy from a one/two man shop. I've seen far too many of these threads. With the economy in as bad shape as it is there is a high probability of failure these days.

I hope it works out for you and Mike at DAR. :aww:
 
Bro - you need to send a registered/certified letter to their business address in Palo Alto, receipt required by the addressee. Just a short note to say that due to the non-fulfillment of your <work to be done or gear supplied>, the date the order was placed and money sent, and by what means the money was sent and that you hereby request your money refunded immediately by whichever means you prefer.

Leave no other outs or anything else. This makes things more official if it does go legal. They can always say they didn't get an email or remember a phone call. A registered letter through the PO, is undisputed.

Steve[/quote]

This :thumbsup:.
 
I think at the very least get ahold of one of those small claims services you can do online. small claims in general is a waste but if you can get the actual judgment in your hand then the sheriff can be used to levy or till tap or bank account tap etc.. its a long shot but a start. if you win you can request an order to appear for financial examination. thats when you get the info you need to tap an account.

goes to show you you can have a great product, tons of money behind it, all the bells and whistles but unless the market allows 50 to 60 units a month, the company is destined to fail. its a high dollar amp with tons of overhead accumulated in the building and marketing process. I spoke to them two years ago. I saw it a mile away. In general who has that kind of cash to spend on a guitar amp.
 
jerrydyer":1fdfeqlm said:
its a long shot but a start. if you win you can request an order to appear for financial examination. thats when you get the info you need to tap an account.

Ha... I did an examination and still didn't get a dime out of the scumbag because he didn't bring everything to the examination and lied about some also (gave me a wrong bank account number). Small claims court is valuable only if your debtor knows nothing about how powerless that system is. My understanding is that Dar is outside of the U.S. so small claims is out of the question anyway.
 
scary groove":7rufd2vk said:
glpg80":7rufd2vk said:
benduncan":7rufd2vk said:
Dar is in california

*Was :scared:

Was? Too bad. I'm right near Palo Alto and could go give it a look. Anyone have an address?

Do not take my words for literal, i was just saying with the company in shambles and the owners playing dodgeball with customers (and possibly creditors) there is a small chance they are still located there. Would be nice if it could be verified though.
 
Bob Savage":s3rwm73c said:
jerrydyer":s3rwm73c said:
its a long shot but a start. if you win you can request an order to appear for financial examination. thats when you get the info you need to tap an account.

Ha... I did an examination and still didn't get a dime out of the scumbag because he didn't bring everything to the examination and lied about some also (gave me a wrong bank account number). Small claims court is valuable only if your debtor knows nothing about how powerless that system is. My understanding is that Dar is outside of the U.S. so small claims is out of the question anyway.

Same thing happened to me for a much smaller amount unrelated to gear but, i dont know. it just sucks there is so much of this in the amp biz.
 
Thanks. I will go and scope it out when I can. Hopefully by the weekend. I will report back after. :)
 
In the meantime, I checked the location. The addresses of both shops on each side leaves that address to be one of these two places :confused:

shop on left was 960. Shop on right was 904. 940 must be here:

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i remember trying to figure out where it was with the street photos like that once. it was right there like you have it. i remember there was a restaurant around the corner called fatass's or something
 
benduncan":159hulz6 said:
i remember trying to figure out where it was with the street photos like that once. it was right there like you have it. i remember there was a restaurant around the corner called fatass's or something

that place doubles as a meth lab....
 
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