EVH 4x12: Wow!

[MetalHeadMike]

Can you hear the noise when playing with a loud, clean tone? Or only with gain/distortion?

Both.
Its just harder to hear when playing with gain/distortion, but its still there.

 

[D-Rock]

I had that before with a V30 loaded Randall XL 412. Its like a high pitched buzzing rattle.

What I found was one of the speaker's mounting screws was drilled in cockeyed which left some movement in that spot between the frame and the baffle. It was a real bitch to deal with.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

I had that before with a V30 loaded Randall XL 412. Its like a high pitched buzzing rattle.

What I found was one of the speaker's mounting screws was drilled in cockeyed which left some movement in that spot between the frame and the baffle. It was a real bitch to deal with.

I opened the cab and checked all mounting hardware and everything looked pretty good
Just got off the phone with Musicians Friend and got a return label sent to me. Sucks to have to box it all up but at least I'm covered. Due to my schedule, its gonna be a few weeks before I get the replacement

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

Sorry to hear about that. UPS loves to throw around those 4X12s though. I feel your pain. You might just want to check with a flashlight if the cone or dust cap got pushed in... sometimes you can pop them right back out.

 

[skoora]

I got an EVH cab at an awesome blowout price at local GC so was fortunate to not have to get it shipped. It's a great cab. I've always liked greenbacks. Through a mic it's super close to my English greenbacks in my Marshall cab. Wouldn't mind seeing if there's any difference under a mic with the Marshall cab that came with the Vintage Modern Marshall's.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

Sorry to hear about that. UPS loves to throw around those 4X12s though. I feel your pain. You might just want to check with a flashlight if the cone or dust cap got pushed in... sometimes you can pop them right back out.

Yeah they do! Almost every package I've received this year from them has had damage, including this one. I checked the cab itself, the speakers, the mounting hardware, and everything else I could, and everything appears ok

Sucks, but no biggie. I'm dropping it off next week and will get a replacement.

Man outside this annoying rattle, this cab sounds sick

 

[MetalHeadMike]

I got an EVH cab at an awesome blowout price at local GC so was fortunate to not have to get it shipped. It's a great cab. I've always liked greenbacks. Through a mic it's super close to my English greenbacks in my Marshall cab. Wouldn't mind seeing if there's any difference under a mic with the Marshall cab that came with the Vintage Modern Marshall's.

I'm 98% sure the EVH12Ms in the EVH cab I just got are made in the UK.

Not that I'd be discouraged if they were MIC like GB RIs.

 

[eternal_idol]

heritage g12m and EVH g12m are identical, only difference is aesthetics. (http://celestion.com/product/28/g12_evh/) "both" made in UK

that being said there are slight differences that some can hear from speaker to speaker within the product but on a whole with a heri/m and a evh/m made on the same day with the same amount of play time will sound damn near identical aside from those minor variations within the product stack

From what I can tell from my experience. the VM speakers (also used in some limited jimi cabs iirc) the g12c25? its like a standard greenback that got the "V30" custom treatment. meaning it was another Marshall/celetion colab like Marshall's version of the V30. I'm not sure exactly what was "modded" from a green back, the magnet structure looks a touch bigger to my memory (but that could have been just the cover), and the paper cone might a slight variation.

out of the three i would expect the G12c25 to sound the most on its own, not in a good or a bad way, but the other two are the same speaker and the G12C is a variation of a different flavor of the same thing.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

heritage g12m and EVH g12m are identical, only difference is aesthetics. (http://celestion.com/product/28/g12_evh/) "both" made in UK

This is the impression I was under after reading up on them before buying this cab

There is a Celestion rep that has made numerous comments on TGP over the years, and he stated every time this question came up that EVH12Ms are identical in every way to Heritage 12M greenbacks; including country of manufacturing. He also confirmed that they're not 20 watt speakers, they're 25 watt. Just labeled 20 w for historical reflection.

I also came across a thread on TGP where a member had this to say FWIW:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index ... na.747099/

"China production of guitar speakers started in 2002, and coincided with the introduction of the paper build sticker on the magnet side.

So if yours have the ink-stamped date code on the frame, they're pre-2002 and are UK.

If they have the paper tag, look at the upper right corner - if it says "50", it's Chinese. If it says "IPSWICH ENGLAND", it's UK."

 

[sg guy]

-∆∆∆∆∆-pretty accurate-∆∆∆∆

 

[Racerxrated]

heritage g12m and EVH g12m are identical, only difference is aesthetics. (http://celestion.com/product/28/g12_evh/) "both" made in UK

that being said there are slight differences that some can hear from speaker to speaker within the product but on a whole with a heri/m and a evh/m made on the same day with the same amount of play time will sound damn near identical aside from those minor variations within the product stack

From what I can tell from my experience. the VM speakers (also used in some limited jimi cabs iirc) the g12c25? its like a standard greenback that got the "V30" custom treatment. meaning it was another Marshall/celetion colab like Marshall's version of the V30. I'm not sure exactly what was "modded" from a green back, the magnet structure looks a touch bigger to my memory (but that could have been just the cover), and the paper cone might a slight variation.

out of the three i would expect the G12c25 to sound the most on its own, not in a good or a bad way, but the other two are the same speaker and the G12C is a variation of a different flavor of the same thing.

I've had 2 EVH cabs, and 2 VM cabs, and played through a Marshall with chinese GBs. Of those 3 the G12C GBs in the VM cabs are the closest to the 2 Vintage 70s Marshall cabs I own now. They are the best modern GB out there IMO.
Any of those options are nice speakers, and are great with a Marshall type amp. The G12 C are modeled after a specific vintage GB that Marshall has in it's museum I believe. You can get them from Marshall but are 200 plus per.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

heritage g12m and EVH g12m are identical, only difference is aesthetics. (http://celestion.com/product/28/g12_evh/) "both" made in UK

that being said there are slight differences that some can hear from speaker to speaker within the product but on a whole with a heri/m and a evh/m made on the same day with the same amount of play time will sound damn near identical aside from those minor variations within the product stack

From what I can tell from my experience. the VM speakers (also used in some limited jimi cabs iirc) the g12c25? its like a standard greenback that got the "V30" custom treatment. meaning it was another Marshall/celetion colab like Marshall's version of the V30. I'm not sure exactly what was "modded" from a green back, the magnet structure looks a touch bigger to my memory (but that could have been just the cover), and the paper cone might a slight variation.

out of the three i would expect the G12c25 to sound the most on its own, not in a good or a bad way, but the other two are the same speaker and the G12C is a variation of a different flavor of the same thing.

I've had 2 EVH cabs, and 2 VM cabs, and played through a Marshall with chinese GBs. Of those 3 the G12C GBs in the VM cabs are the closest to the 2 Vintage 70s Marshall cabs I own now. They are the best modern GB out there IMO.
Any of those options are nice speakers, and are great with a Marshall type amp. The G12 C are modeled after a specific vintage GB that Marshall has in it's museum I believe. You can get them from Marshall but are 200 plus per.

Are the G12C the speakers in those Hendrix cabs?

 

[eternal_idol]

heritage g12m and EVH g12m are identical, only difference is aesthetics. (http://celestion.com/product/28/g12_evh/) "both" made in UK

that being said there are slight differences that some can hear from speaker to speaker within the product but on a whole with a heri/m and a evh/m made on the same day with the same amount of play time will sound damn near identical aside from those minor variations within the product stack

From what I can tell from my experience. the VM speakers (also used in some limited jimi cabs iirc) the g12c25? its like a standard greenback that got the "V30" custom treatment. meaning it was another Marshall/celetion colab like Marshall's version of the V30. I'm not sure exactly what was "modded" from a green back, the magnet structure looks a touch bigger to my memory (but that could have been just the cover), and the paper cone might a slight variation.

out of the three i would expect the G12c25 to sound the most on its own, not in a good or a bad way, but the other two are the same speaker and the G12C is a variation of a different flavor of the same thing.

I've had 2 EVH cabs, and 2 VM cabs, and played through a Marshall with chinese GBs. Of those 3 the G12C GBs in the VM cabs are the closest to the 2 Vintage 70s Marshall cabs I own now. They are the best modern GB out there IMO.
Any of those options are nice speakers, and are great with a Marshall type amp. The G12 C are modeled after a specific vintage GB that Marshall has in it's museum I believe. You can get them from Marshall but are 200 plus per.

Are the G12C the speakers in those Hendrix cabs?

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifie ... drix-stack

appears to be.

 

[Rising Farce]

I believe so. And I'm pretty sure the $79 Mojotone Watchtower is the same speaker as well.

 

[Oblivion DC]

heritage g12m and EVH g12m are identical, only difference is aesthetics. (http://celestion.com/product/28/g12_evh/) "both" made in UK

that being said there are slight differences that some can hear from speaker to speaker within the product but on a whole with a heri/m and a evh/m made on the same day with the same amount of play time will sound damn near identical aside from those minor variations within the product stack

From what I can tell from my experience. the VM speakers (also used in some limited jimi cabs iirc) the g12c25? its like a standard greenback that got the "V30" custom treatment. meaning it was another Marshall/celetion colab like Marshall's version of the V30. I'm not sure exactly what was "modded" from a green back, the magnet structure looks a touch bigger to my memory (but that could have been just the cover), and the paper cone might a slight variation.

out of the three i would expect the G12c25 to sound the most on its own, not in a good or a bad way, but the other two are the same speaker and the G12C is a variation of a different flavor of the same thing.

I've had 2 EVH cabs, and 2 VM cabs, and played through a Marshall with chinese GBs. Of those 3 the G12C GBs in the VM cabs are the closest to the 2 Vintage 70s Marshall cabs I own now. They are the best modern GB out there IMO.
Any of those options are nice speakers, and are great with a Marshall type amp. The G12 C are modeled after a specific vintage GB that Marshall has in it's museum I believe. You can get them from Marshall but are 200 plus per.

Are the G12C the speakers in those Hendrix cabs?

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifie ... drix-stack

appears to be.

Came in to ask about the G12C's too. I picked up an empty EVH 412 cab and loaded it up with G12C's. I remember liking it with my evh stealth head but I got rid of that amp and haven't had a chance to try my new amp yet. Now that finals are over I'm going to take an afternoon off and try that fucker out.
\m/

 

[Les Zombie]

i used to have a evh 4x12 but i felt it matched up better with some of my amps than others, i hated it with my uberschall and herbert but loved it with my 5153 and 2555sl.

 

[FourT6and2]

Never heard of the G12C before. I mean, I kinda did in passing—something about the VM having its own special GBs. But I never gave it much attention. To date, the best Greenbacks I've heard are the regular ol' Chinese ones. I really like them. I've never encountered a VM cab in the wild, though.

 

[FourT6and2]

If I had to go just on this comparison, I don't like them. The 75-watt Creamback sounds less harsh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHRizpPXyDk

 

[SpiderWars]

I've read that the Hendrix G12C are UK made and have old style solder tabs while the VM G12C are China made and have push on type tabs for faster/easier production. GC online used is generally pretty proud of their 425a/b cabs.

 

[eternal_idol]

I've read that the Hendrix G12C are UK made and have old style solder tabs while the VM G12C are China made and have push on type tabs for faster/easier production. GC online used is generally pretty proud of their 425a/b cabs.

there might be something to that...

atleast the solder tab bit.

and definitively the VM speakers, notice the change in sticker