TheBiggestJerk
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We ain’t talking about what the blues is. We’re talking about what a blues guitarist is or isn’t. And so far VonBonHead is a windbag.
TheBiggestJerk
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At the time it does! Does one need to suffer and be of another color to be considered bonafide?
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VonBonfire
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That you think that kinda garbage just shows you don't know what you're talking about. I'm sure you could stick a few tunes down at your local blues jam. Most rock guys can. You and me both know that you aren't gonna cut a 3 hour gig just like I'm not gonna cut a 12 hour shift down at the hospital.
stephen sawall
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Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day...
Fritter and waste your hours in an off-beat thrash metal way!
Master! Master!
Where's the money? It's a gas!
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash, but don't you dare download it on Napster!
Obey! Grab that cash!
Obey! Keep your hands off my stack!
Fritter and waste your hours in an off-beat thrash metal way!
Master! Master!
Where's the money? It's a gas!
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash, but don't you dare download it on Napster!
Obey! Grab that cash!
Obey! Keep your hands off my stack!
lester
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But doesn't a blues guitarist stem from having the blues
Me thinks it's one and the same
TheBiggestJerk
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You’re attacking me because your argument has no merit and holds no water.
You make no sense.
TheBiggestJerk
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VonBonfire
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You're making arguments you can't back up with facts, experience, or with chops. You're a nurse who dabbles with guitar but tonight you think you're a blues guitarist. Whatever you say "bluesman".
lester
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Dude we're talking about the blues that originated on these plantations in the deep south Robert Johnson and all the guys that came before him even, the Mississippi Delta ect.
And you post some fucking shit from Miles which I've heard a few times now. I do love Miles, let me be clear on that.
But do you think in your right mind that Miles Davis played the blues at all, one iota?
If the answer is no, which it is, then who is the windbag?
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VonBonfire
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It is generally expected that a legit jazz horn player would be capable in a blues setting since jazz is inextricably linked to blues.
TheBiggestJerk
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Look at you triggered AF!
You’re way off, cat. I’m a published artist!
A gig is a gig is a gig… what fact are your looking for??? You made up some some bullshit supposition and now you look like a fool because you can’t back any of it up with words…this is bully, smash you over the head, take your toys and go home behavior. Next
TheBiggestJerk
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Was Clapton a blues guitarist or Mike Bloomfield?
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VonBonfire
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I've seen videos of your playing. Reality is you haven't demonstrated a skill level that is going to cause me or anyone else to lend credence to what you say is and isn't blues. You're a dabbler, not a doer.
lester
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Not really, this guy cut his teeth in Charlie Parker's band even being the band leader at points.
He went from that, basically he's a innovator, a guy with the unique ability to put together groups of musicians that expanded outward, from Coltrane, Cannonball Adderley, Bill Evans, Wayne Shorter, Chick Corea, John McLaughlin on and on.
The genius with Miles was not so much his technical prowess, it's a musical intellect that he can create completely unexpected lines. Being cheesy is exactly exactly the opposite. Being cheesy is predictable, you know the chord changes before they happen, you know what they're going to do on the fretboard, you know what scale they're going to play you know how they're going to end the solo before they even do it. That's not your knowledge in particular, that's you just sharing an innate cheesy mindset.
So no, Miles had nothing whatsoever to do with the blues.
For him to even talk about it it's kind of demeaning and it paints him into some sort of corner where he has to explain blacks or black culture to of all fucking people Harry Reasoner.
Do you have to be black or white or Chinese or Indian to play the blues?
You have to feel pain man, you have to know pain.
Now you think a guy like Robert Johnson who used to go town to town making money playing guitar and singing on the street corner, do you think that he moped around and singing about pain and this and that
No, people were suffering enough already, he's coming in there to entertain and lift spirits and when people feel good they dip into their pocket because that's a value. Is the original version of Come on in my Kitchen a blues song...yeah it is. Can other people relate to it other than blacks? of course, our boy von zipper have the blues? I don't think so. Does he play the blues? No, he plays a facsimile version with high technical skill and a guitar. The bits I heard, there wasn't a blues note in there.
How about Eric Clapton, is Eric Clapton a blues guitarist biggest jerk? What about Stevie Ray Vaughan? Surely Stevie right?
* I see above that you had mentioned Eric Clapton, people were going around writing Clapton is God, they weren't talking about him being god of the blues that's for sure
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VonBonfire
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You think Parker would hire a horn player who couldn't play a straight blues?
TheBiggestJerk
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What I cannot or cannot do is not the argument. You have no argument. You’re just name calling now because you lost. You’re super predictable with the mentality of a 5th grader who just got his first pubic hair. Ya see I make heard for the expression aspect. You play whatever because your dick is small and you need it to boost your ego. You probably drive a lifted diesel truck too.
lester
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Of course, blues had nothing to do with Bebop. Bebop was an intervention, some may say that it's one of black cultures greatest achievements.You think Parker would hire a horn player who couldn't play a straight blues?
So no, Charlie Parker hired you on your technical knowledge and skill.
Have you listened to any of this shit or what the fuck, is this over your head
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VonBonfire
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You're talking about something you have next to no experience in. Not sure how you can expect someone to take your remarks seriously.
TheBiggestJerk
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Don’t even provoke this village idiot.
TheBiggestJerk
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You cant even define the limits of your own argument.
