Jose Arrendondo(original) modded Marshalls let see them

[jerrydyer]

25 posts, lots of lip service, but no pic's, what gives?

A few reasons.

1) Some of the people who have the old Jose modded Marshalls are not members of this Forum.


2) Original Jose modded Marshalls are hard to come by these day's for multiple reasons ranging from the obvious ,to the fact that the guys who have good sounding ones very rarely let them go. Then you also have to take into consideration that there are collectors who snatch them up as soon as they are available. This limits the amount of people who can actually get there hands on one.

Add these reason in and you will see why there's not a lot of pics.

Yup!!!

And also i will bet that a lot of Jose Modded Marshalls have most likely been put back to stock at some point, when the whole modded Marshall scene started dying out during the Grunge period.

DOUBLE YEP. In fact I know the guy who was asked to return the majority of them to stock.

 

[rupe]

I'd love to score a Jose un-modded Marshall!

 

[nitro]

Jerrydyer who would the guy be thats turning the Jose Modded Marshalls to stock.

 

[jcj]

I know someone who has 6, and while they're cool, there are other amps that I prefer for that type of sound.

Anyone of the usual suspects can build you one, as a matter of fact, I'd say that most of the guys who can nail it have actually improved on the design; at least to my hands/ears.

 

[jerrydyer]

Jerrydyer who would the guy be thats turning the Jose Modded Marshalls to stock.

cant give his name here. someone might try to kill him. he was just doing his job.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

No argument really.. i think Rockstah may be a bit ticked that I told the folks here that they can see how to implement the very Rockstah mod (or close enough to it) on the metro amp forum and thus might take away from potential business he could get from posting here and having people tell him how great his mod and amps are. He does great work and by all means, if you have the cash and it is convenient, go ahead and give him the business because he will tweak it to perfection. If you want the real deal, go to the man himself. I would never post any of the mods the guys at metro shared with me over the years but in this case, somebody has and now it sits there for all to see so no harm in telling the good folks at rig-talk to go have a look and see if it suits their needs.

 

[LP Freak]

No argument really.. i think Rockstah may be a bit ticked that I told the folks here that they can see how to implement the very Rockstah mod (or close enough to it) on the metro amp forum and thus might take away from potential business he could get from posting here and having people tell him how great his mod and amps are. He does great work and by all means, if you have the cash and it is convenient, go ahead and give him the business because he will tweak it to perfection. If you want the real deal, go to the man himself. I would never post any of the mods the guys at metro shared with me over the years but in this case, somebody has and now it sits there for all to see so no harm in telling the good folks at rig-talk to go have a look and see if it suits their needs.

If that is the case it's public knowledge already so what's the problem?

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Hurt feelings? I don't know.. ask the man himself! I think he should be proud of his work and the joy he has brought many.. people will still pay to have him do the mod so no worry.

 

[mentoneman]

the only problem i have with mark/rockstah is for years he was begging guys like suhr and cameron for info/pictures of circuits and these guys shared their knowledge and experience with him in order to arrive at the mod he now does. he gleaned every last bit of it from forums and experienced builders, came up with his rendition through experimentation and trial and error yes---, but now behaves like it is entirely his proprietary information.

i'm happy for his success. he rips vh licks wonderfully and he makes marshalls sound very vh..the best i've heard... and that's saying a lot based on my love and experience with mojave, and with guys like dave friedman around who actually works on the very amp everyone chases, but he really has this knee jerk over reaction to protecting what he calls a rockstah mod 5. how about calling it the metro/mojave/huge racks forum/suhr/cameron/mason/friedman mod by rockstah?

then there's steve/5150 who documented every step of his entire amp building process for all to see and share, also receiving help from the same sources along the way--olaf rocks!!!---not worried at all if anyone takes from it or copies it. mark could learn and benefit greatly from that kind of attitude and by stopping the defensive thing already. we get it.

 

[rockstah]

mentoneman,
you are leaving out how much i have posted on the forums, with layouts, clips demoing specs, helping fellow builders let alone all the emails helping people to understand amps/circuits.

the thread you mention of steves/5150.... i cant even count how many times i did a thread exactly like that with many amp builds and mods that i have i done let alone the one you make mention of from 5150. this kind of stuff is left out of the mix with all the bashing going on and you cant understand why i'm being defensive?

i am freak about amps and have always engage anyone that shares the same passion. for years i have done this. i have done what suhr has done for me and what friedman has done for me for many.

i have given back tremdiously. its so amazing to me how people want to discredit me simply because after all that work i am trying to make something for myself.

i have not stolen anything from anyone and as well i documented all of my progress for those that were there along the way and as well that can use the search feature.
my mod5 is my spec my configuration, what ever you want to call it. i worked my ass off for it. and now someone wants to charge less to do it or just give it away. why cant you understand me being defensive? its interesting that so many get why i am.
i haven't done anything wrong but im being made out look that way with untruths and only half of the story.

i have never behind closed attempted to undercharge and do a suhr mod or friendman mod and both of those guys have shared info with me. but to find out that i sell
an amp and someone shares the info? or help someone out and then they stab me in the back.... or some ass posts a supposed schematic of my spec....this is whats being done. the spec if not done correctly takes away from what i do when it sounds like ass. let alone the poor sucker that has someone else do my spec. what don't you get?

after all this you cant understand how i can be defensive about things?

i'm watching false truths be spread about me and you think i shouldn't worry about it?

i'm all ears, you tell me how i should handle it?

Mark

 

[rockstah]

how about calling it the metro/mojave/huge racks forum/suhr/cameron/mason/friedman mod by rockstah?

this statement alone amazes me. you have no idea dude.

i apologize for bringing this drama into the forum.

Mark

 

[mentoneman]

i'm all ears, you tell me how i should handle it?

Mark

let players decide for themselves what is right for them. if your mod is unique enough and fairly priced then you should be confidant that people will choose you over another modifier. so far i have not heard another person produce a tone from a marshall as close to eddie's as your modded amps do when you play them. end of story.

but if i at one point had been interested in contacting you regarding your mod, your prior mishandling of former customers and current defensiveness has done enough to dissuade me from inquiring any further. i wish i felt differently but i'm being honest.

love what you do, and if it stresses you out too much then stop. doesn't seem like this is any fun for you like it once may have been.

i'm not bringing your price into the equation because the market dictates what you should charge and if it is effective for you then that is self evident.

you're a talented guy and i'm sure i'd like you if i met you in person but this amp modding business seems to stress you out too much. take up golf instead!

 

[rockstah]

i'm all ears, you tell me how i should handle it?

Mark

let players decide for themselves what is right for them. if your mod is unique enough and fairly priced then you should be confidant that people will choose you over another modifier. so far i have not heard another person produce a tone from a marshall as close to eddie's as your modded amps do when you play them. end of story.

but if i at one point had been interested in contacting you regarding your mod, your prior mishandling of former customers and current defensiveness has done enough to dissuade me from inquiring any further. i wish i felt differently but i'm being honest.

love what you do, and if it stresses you out too much then stop. doesn't seem like this is any fun for you like it once may have been.

i'm not bringing your price into the equation because the market dictates what you should charge and if it is effective for you then that is self evident.

you're a talented guy and i'm sure i'd like you if i met you in person but this amp modding business seems to stress you out too much. take up golf instead!

its not the business at all that stresses me.....i was correct, you don't understand and thats fine. i appreciate your input!
Mark

 

[rockstah]

i'm all ears, you tell me how i should handle it?

Mark

let players decide for themselves what is right for them. if your mod is unique enough and fairly priced then you should be confidant that people will choose you over another modifier. so far i have not heard another person produce a tone from a marshall as close to eddie's as your modded amps do when you play them. end of story.

but if i at one point had been interested in contacting you regarding your mod, your prior mishandling of former customers and current defensiveness has done enough to dissuade me from inquiring any further. i wish i felt differently but i'm being honest.

love what you do, and if it stresses you out too much then stop. doesn't seem like this is any fun for you like it once may have been.

i'm not bringing your price into the equation because the market dictates what you should charge and if it is effective for you then that is self evident.

you're a talented guy and i'm sure i'd like you if i met you in person but this amp modding business seems to stress you out too much. take up golf instead!

or push-ups

i just did 35!

 

[Gainfreak]

that was your line Mark, I would just suggest being a nice man and try to focus on Van Halen more for the men who want that sound. You overcame the bad obstacle you had with a couple men but so far you came back in good faith, you can't say that for everyone in this business. just remember, we built this city on rock and roll!

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Rockstah, if the schem posted on metro is not accurate then you have nothing to worry about. People know where they can get the real deal and that is all that matters. I agree that you have the closest tone and chops to VH and if i were going for that in it's entirety and were a total VH tone freak then I'd probably just get you to build me an amp. (as long as you had sorted out the building delays..)

But to play devil's advocate, here is another cat who'se mod is clearly laid out over at metro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gkyKZ1BdUU Pretty awesome VH tone here as well. Lots of ways to skin a cat when you cascade the preamp section I guess!

 

[AmpliFIRE]

 

[rockstah]

getting the spec not correct and having the amp not sound right leads to someone thinking my spec doesn't sound good,

Rockstah, if the schem posted on metro is not accurate then you have nothing to worry about. People know where they can get the real deal and that is all that matters. I agree that you have the closest tone and chops to VH and if i were going for that in it's entirety and were a total VH tone freak then I'd probably just get you to build me an amp. (as long as you had sorted out the building delays..)

But to play devil's advocate, here is another cat who'se mod is clearly laid out over at metro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gkyKZ1BdUU Pretty awesome VH tone here as well. Lots of ways to skin a cat when you cascade the preamp section I guess!

The pisser is when someone builds the circuit from a wrong schematic they then judge your product on that fake.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

No diff then ceriatone apparently doing something "cameronish" with their chupacabra.. to me that amp doesn't sound that good. Doesn't discredit Cameron in any way! People want the real mod5, they know where to go..

 

[chumbucket]

I guess i have hit the big leagues! weeeeeeeeeee! so cool i gotta say. well, since i'm now in there with Jose and the likes i have to say that it is sometimes not about what you can see looking at an amp that someone modified but what you cant see......
Kapo, why someone would go to a tech to have them put another techs mod in an amp is beyond me... but i guess you get what ya pay for.

Mark

Probably because they wouldn't want to ship their amp away to the original tech who would hold onto it for a super long time and then cut off all forms of correspondence.