Let's talk 3rd Power amps

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I always wanted to try the Citizen gain CRS 100, but have never had the chance. Now there is the Dragon ! Anyone compare the two ?
Which one has more gain ? Which do you prefere ?

Also does the kitchen sink have the same gain channal as the Citizen gain and or the Dragon ?

Very curious about these amps.
So the Dragon has 5 Preamp tubes. One for phase inverter, one for the loop. That leaves 2 tubes for the preamp. So I am guess it has 2 gain stage plexi channel and a cascaded 3 gain stage lead channel like a 2203.

So how much gain could it possibly have ? I have played very few 3 gain stage marshalls that was enough gain for me with out a boost.

What are you thoughts ?
 
BTW the clips I have heard of the Dragon and Citizen gain both sound good to me !
 
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I always wanted to try the Citizen gain CRS 100, but have never had the chance. Now there is the Dragon ! Anyone compare the two ?
Which one has more gain ? Which do you prefere ?

Also does the kitchen sink have the same gain channal as the Citizen gain and or the Dragon ?

Very curious about these amps.
So the Dragon has 5 Preamp tubes. One for phase inverter, one for the loop. That leaves 2 tubes for the preamp. So I am guess it has 2 gain stage plexi channel and a cascaded 3 gain stage lead channel like a 2203.

So how much gain could it possibly have ? I have played very few 3 gain stage marshalls that was enough gain for me with out a boost.

What are you thoughts ?
It’s got a shit- ton more gain than a 2203.
 
I had a citizen gain for a bit, I forget which model though. Great amp for the modded Marshall thing but that isn’t really my thing anymore.
 
I always wanted to try the Citizen gain CRS 100, but have never had the chance. Now there is the Dragon ! Anyone compare the two ?
Which one has more gain ? Which do you prefere ?

Also does the kitchen sink have the same gain channal as the Citizen gain and or the Dragon ?

Very curious about these amps.
So the Dragon has 5 Preamp tubes. One for phase inverter, one for the loop. That leaves 2 tubes for the preamp. So I am guess it has 2 gain stage plexi channel and a cascaded 3 gain stage lead channel like a 2203.

So how much gain could it possibly have ? I have played very few 3 gain stage marshalls that was enough gain for me with out a boost.

What are you thoughts ?
I can confirm they are killer....

I've got a Citizen Gain SR head that I'm going to list for sale today as I'm trying to track down a channel switcher version. The range of tones you can get from these heads is nuts with the EQ switch options
 
The Citizen Gain I tried a few yrs back was killer. Great amps.
 
From clips, 3rd Power Amps have always been the best sounding "boutique" amps to me.

They are the only ones that I feel any desire to own.
 
They all have plenty of gain. From what I have seen and heard, the Dragon sounds phenomenal. I have the Kitchen Sink, which is the evolution from the Citizen Gain. I love my Kitchen Sink and I never have to boost it. Here are a couple of live clips of my amp. Plenty of gain and cuts through the mix. One of these days I will have to get it setup for home recording.



 
If I didn't have this Dragon amp, I'd own their Kitchen Sink. I knew from the first time I plugged in, it was next level (for me)
Now that I own it a while, I can't believe the options on a single channel amp and how they effect the tones. Like, EVERY option sounds awesome.
It's hard to pick one setting.
The cab is just as impressive. If I had the $$$$, I'd have a Kitchen Sink on their 2x12.

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